What percent of the US Black population do you feel is conscious/Pro-Black

What percent of US Blacks are pro-Black/conscious?

  • <1%

    Votes: 9 15.0%
  • 1-5%

    Votes: 18 30.0%
  • 5-10%

    Votes: 14 23.3%
  • 10-20%

    Votes: 11 18.3%
  • >20%

    Votes: 8 13.3%

  • Total voters
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Good response. I was thinking that but was wondering how the end of open (vs still existing clandestine) legal oppression may have turned people more individual only vs. community minded
Very interesting. If we're talking about the entire history of Black people in this country, there have been individuals and communities with relatively more freedoms who faced relatively less legal oppression than others of their race. Freemen, freedmen, those who lived in Northern states that had abolished slavery, those who lived outside of the jim crow South post-slavery. Some of the strongest agitators to destroying slavery and then discriminatory laws and practices were from those circles and spaces. *Your current city/metro area plays prominently in Black history because of this.

Today, with victories over open legal discrimination/oppression, I think the same % are dedicated to fighting for the community. Whether externally to preserve those legal victories, or internally to build the community up. I think they fight in different ways today, but the goal is the same.

Those who are individual minded and bought into the "illusion of inclusion" have been blindsided by the pushback/roll back of some of the gains of the Civil Rights Movement.
 

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IMO I think pro-blackness really needs to be evaluated. :patrice:Blacks own less than 5% of the nation's wealth, don't control our image, have little political influence, and low business ownership with brick-and-mortar locations. I say it needs to be evaluated because it talks a good game but hasn't produced much.
I posted a quote similar to this in another thread and was called a white supremacist. We can’t even be honest about the state of the black community, so how can it improve if you’re not conscious of your current situation?

Black community is not a patriarchy, but to improve that means you need to take accountability for your current position and implement the changes yourself. Patriarchs take accountability for their actions and bear the responsibilities of the actions taken by others, they don’t blame someone or something else, and they look to others to give them something, rather than go get it themselves.

Conscious is an oxymoron when applied to the black community.
 
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Let's be real here: since slavery the only people that have pushed the community forward were people who made a decision to be pro-Black or conscious. This does not mean they are anti anyone else, but they actively work to push Black folks forward.

So how many would you say are like that today? I would define it primarily as people who work to uplift themselves, then their families and then the wider Black community in a way that informs their personal, political, social, educational, and economic actions. It doesn't have to be ostentatious or hotep-like. I don't even use 'woke' since people have smuggled other things into that that don't involve Black folks.

Vote in the poll and feel free to give your own definition. Are we more or less pro-Black than in the past?
I'd say 0.001%
 

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I would say that not everyone who rolls out the pro-Black banner is really pro-Black.

In fact I trust the people who scream pro-Black less than the quiet doers.

Reminds me of that CB4 scene

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Monetizing the pro-Black banner was detrimental to the Black Power/Black Pride movements of the 60's, 70's, 80's, and early 90's.
In the past, there honestly was a rising wave of Black pride. However, people have figured out that you can get paid if you call yourself a member of the conscious community and scream "white supremacy" on YouTube. When the Hotep Hustle started paying big money, the actual work stopped. As a result, we don't have a real Black Power/consciousness movement anymore. We just have a bunch of people online grifting and selling dreams.
 

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Pro black? I’d say 80% I think most blk folks want to be respected, safe, recognized, and treated fairly.

When you say conscious do you mean like pyramid talk and goin back to africa?
To add to this, how far does someone have to go to be pro-black? The only thing I've come to agree with putting on my list is raising your X% black kids.
 

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When you say conscious do you mean like pyramid talk and goin back to africa?

I would rate a knowledge of history and a willingness to put its lessons to practice above what you mention. Back to Africa talk can be pro Black but has never been the dominant pro Black sentiment in the US Black community.

I have more faith in the Black dude trying to run a small store and help his family and block than esoteric shyt.
 

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The only thing I've come to agree with putting on my list is raising your X% black kids
Interesting statement given the growing mixed population.

Do you think a pro-Black person with mixed kids should need to raise their kids to think of themselves as Black? Or is just raising your kids well pro Black by default?
 

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I dunno but it's low. Many can't even see the value in actively practicing group economics.

 

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I posted a quote similar to this in another thread and was called a white supremacist. We can’t even be honest about the state of the black community, so how can it improve if you’re not conscious of your current situation?

Black community is a patriarchy, but to improve that means you need to take accountability for your current position and implement the changes yourself. Patriarchs don’t take accountability for their actions, they blame someone or something else, and they look to others to give them something, rather than go get it themselves.

Conscious is an oxymoron when applied to the black community.
You answered your own question but I'm 50/50 on it. A lot of situations were not caused by blacks. For example, when the US highway system was being built, the government enforced imminent domain and took land which translates to wealth from blacks. Also it was no coincidence for decades blacks were lumped primarily in downtown areas in most major cities. I do agree taking accountability of how we have operated hasn't been working though. Just IMO.
 

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You answered your own question but I'm 50/50 on it. A lot of situations were not caused by blacks. For example, when the US highway system was being built, the government enforced imminent domain and took land which translates to wealth from blacks. Also it was no coincidence for decades blacks were lumped primarily in downtown areas in most major cities. I do agree taking accountability of how we have operated hasn't been working though. Just IMO.
Yeah, I agree, but at the end of the day, a man knows that shyt doesn’t even have to be his fault but the responsibility to do something about it still falls on him. So what it wasn’t because of you? It’s still your responsibility to do something about it.

Just like the drug and violence, or single mother epidemic in the black community. The guys that didn’t peddle the dope or knock the women up are expected to bail them out via stepfatherhood and subsidized housing. The childless men that don’t have hellspawns running the streets and terrorizing the community are expected to provide mentorship and youth guidance. Not of that is our fault, and we caused none of it, but the community still expects someone else to fix it.

If the children stayed out of the street and in school, they’d have gotten an education and made something of themselves, rather than being a dredge on society. But it’s the baby-daddy fault, it’s the teacher fault, it’s the systems fault, always someone or something else’s fault.

Same applies to education, employment, relationships, and homeownership. Everyone in the “community” has to be on point for it to get better. But, that will never happen.
 
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