What is with the push for emasculating men?

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Where does female privilege exist? You don't see any male privilege in inner cities but who sets up the structure, zoning, policing, and funding in inner cities? Maybe you meant to say that you don't see a lot of men of color privilege in inner cities, but that doesn't mean it is a place of female privilege.

I don't know how to take this statement. Are we to define privilege based on career choice? I'm sure a lot of women could be involved in urban planning if they choose that. I'm not saying that women in the inner city got it made in the shade but they're not getting their brains blasted out in the streets in record numbers that's for sure. Chi-town Holla. If white women, no if any women were dying the rate at which black men die in this country, drastic measures would have been taken all ready.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

40% of Domestic Violence victims are male

94% of Industrial Death Happens to men

90% of Divorces are initiated by women

80% of all suicides are men

90% of the homeless are men

97% of the Combat Deaths since the first Gulf War have been Men


I honestly don't care about men in media, to be honest, there are much bigger issues than that. If some of you don't think the west is a misandric society than i don't know what to tell you. Look at this for example and tell me we have so much power!

SFU Men's Centre - YouTube


But please think of the womenzzz!!!

So whats your solution to this problem

Go through each of the stats you listed and tell me how you think society should rectify them.

 

[The Real]

40% of Domestic Violence victims are male

This is actually not true. Male DV is underreported, but this 40% stat is a men's rights myth based on some specious calculations from the UK. Even if it was true, though, all it means is that women are the majority of domestic violence victims, which isn't surprising.

90% of Divorces are initiated by women

Again, not true. The majority of divorces are initiated by women, but the percentage isn't this high. Regardless, what conclusion are you drawing from this about men's oppression?

94% of Industrial Death Happens to men

Are you really going to blame women for this? Workforce segregation is a product of patriarchy as much as it is anything else.

80% of all suicides are men

Again, what does this have to do with women or men's oppression?

90% of the homeless are men

Again, what does this have to do with women or men's oppression? I should also point out that the implication here, which is that women are somehow living much better than men when it comes to this issue is nonsense.

97% of the Combat Deaths since the first Gulf War have been Men

Again, this is a product of male-enforced gender norms. Men decided women shouldn't be on the front lines, and so that's how it is. If you think this is naturally the way things should be, then you can't complain that it is an oppressive situation, either.

 

[HoustonHeat]

I don't know how to take this statement. Are we to define privilege based on career choice? I'm sure a lot of women could be involved in urban planning if they choose that. I'm not saying that women in the inner city got it made in the shade but they're not getting their brains blasted out in the streets in record numbers that's for sure. Chi-town Holla. If white women, no if any women were dying the rate at which black men die in this country, drastic measures would have been taken all ready.

I don't think you understand what privilege means, not in the social science setting anyway.

Female privilege means unearned rights/advantages given to women only, but denied to men. I don't see that happening. Black men are the leading causes of black male and black female homicide. White male privilege still runs most inner cities and urban planning. Black women don't have any advantage over black men in urban settings. The difference in their death rate is about 5-6%, which is close to the difference between white men and women.

 

[HoustonHeat]

And you rarely see single homeless women because most are killed off within a few years of becoming homeless unless they buddy up with a homeless man for protection.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You have to give these dudes their moment... they have been waiting to exhale for quite some time now. This thread isn't the place for logic/facts/reason

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Emasculated men huh...

How do we explain the growing trend of this garbage


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[Scustin Trillberlake]

You have to give these dudes their moment... they have been waiting to exhale for quite some time now. This thread isn't the place for logic/facts/reason

Clearly not.

 

[Blackking]

You guys went a few more pages, not making points.. I think the thread has been closed and the fact of gay and anti men agendas in the media and society has been establish.

However, just for clarification (since opinions apparently warrant character attacks) ...

Recognizing agendas in the media - is when a person notices the obvious and is not all this other sh1t you all have made up to justify why not every man isn't blind to it.

Some men feel that gays are over represented in the media and that there is a gay agenda to desensitize and impregnate (cough) minds, with images of what is being promoted as common or normal.- These men shouldn't be automatically written off as homosexuality oppressing, gay hating, paranoid losers. It's possible that the sh1t is out there and some men think that the agenda is unnecessary and wrong.

Society is chauvinistic and dominated by men. By the nature of men and women- things have played out that way. Men are usually more aggressive, more motivated by certain forms of success, and in the beginning it made sense for women to stay at home and men to go out and get it. Women have been as important as men, due to everything they contribute to every humans development and them keeping balance to societies moral compass. Inherent hormones have made women and men express caring and nurturing feelings in different ways. Men have historically taken advantage of women and treated them as property.= However, things are becoming more equal now. Regardless, if there is emasculating media personalities and agendas, that sh1t is wrong.

 

[Blackking]

Gender role theory posits that boys and girls learn the appropriate behavior and attitudes from the family and overall culture they grow up with, and so non-physical gender differences are a product of socialization.

There are also biological differences that make men and women fall into gender roles and display certain mannerisms, preferences, and behaviors. Now when you have established and respected psychologist (who happen to be feminist) trying to establish that gender is unrelated to sex then that's a damn shame. When you have girls who were force to become women at birth due to birth defects, that grow up and are dealing with gender role issues and feelings of being male, then you have an issue. There is a reason that people can't just randomly pick a sex with there is a birth defect. Not everything is nurture over nature and gender is the most important example of that. I don't believe that men are wrong- for feeling society is ill for not encouraging natural male and woman behaviors. Everything from the differences in dress or appearance, roles, behaviors, etc was determined by the evolution of societies all over the world. Why would we want society to influence and manipulate these natural developments in society and between the sexes? Why should people be accused of ill sh1t and ill feelings just for noticing the sh1t in the media?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Blackking can you post some kind of statistic or study to validate your feelings that gays are overrepresented in the media

Overrepresented compared to who/what/when

I watch a bit of TV... prob about 10 hours a week... no gays or even overtly effeminate/weak men on the shows I watch. Shows like that IME tend to exaggerate all character traits and appeal to the lowest common denominator. So clearly these agents of homosexuality are easily avoidable.

I got way more heat but lets start there, since you wanna get serious and objective.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Another man who fell victim to the torrent of media emasculation

So Sad.. Never Let Jealousy Drive You To Do This To Any Woman: Jealous Man Stabs Girl In The Back Because He Couldn't Be With Her! (*Warning* Graphic) - World Star Uncut

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

And another one... this dude's emotional weakness couldn't have been brought on by anything besides the gay couple on Modern Family

13-Year-Old Girl Fatally Shot On School Bus - YouTube

 

[OG Talk]

You guys went a few more pages, not making points.. I think the thread has been closed and the fact of gay and anti men agendas in the media and society has been establish.

However, just for clarification (since opinions apparently warrant character attacks) ...

Recognizing agendas in the media - is when a person notices the obvious and is not all this other sh1t you all have made up to justify why not every man isn't blind to it.

Some men feel that gays are over represented in the media and that there is a gay agenda to desensitize and impregnate (cough) minds, with images of what is being promoted as common or normal.- These men shouldn't be automatically written off as homosexuality oppressing, gay hating, paranoid losers. It's possible that the sh1t is out there and some men think that the agenda is unnecessary and wrong.

Society is chauvinistic and dominated by men. By the nature of men and women- things have played out that way. Men are usually more aggressive, more motivated by certain forms of success, and in the beginning it made sense for women to stay at home and men to go out and get it. Women have been as important as men, due to everything they contribute to every humans development and them keeping balance to societies moral compass. Inherent hormones have made women and men express caring and nurturing feelings in different ways. Men have historically taken advantage of women and treated them as property.= However, things are becoming more equal now. Regardless, if there is emasculating media personalities and agendas, that sh1t is wrong.

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