What is the WORST thing Marvel could do with the MCU X-men reboot?

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

No, spider man carried marvel on his back and still continues to do so. People only care about a handfull of xmen which is why fox was able to get away with what it did in bushing the o5 and making a primary antagonist the face of the team that not even product synergy at marvel comics could make work

Well spiderman is and always will be #1 for marvel. That is beside the point.

the X-Men were by far the most successful property in comics in the 90s. The best selling comic of all time is this

1991

everyone cares about X-men as a unit...the reason why the series DIED a slow death was the decision to focus on the wrong individuals (mystique, and that wet blanket jean grey performance), and never getting to the cyclops and storm led xmen blue and gold teams and the lineup above, and from the animated series.

fox VALUED the xmen property over the avengers and others when marvel was broke asf. Nobody gave a shyt about the Avengers until the movies. Your entire take on the x-men is erroneous breh

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Well spiderman is and always will be #1 for marvel. That is beside the point.

the X-Men were by far the most successful property in comics in the 90s. The best selling comic of all time is this

1991

everyone cares about X-men as a unit...the reason why the series DIED a slow death was the decision to focus on the wrong individuals (mystique, and that wet blanket jean grey performance), and never getting to the cyclops and storm led xmen blue and gold teams and the lineup above, and from the animated series.

fox VALUED the xmen property over the avengers and others when marvel was broke asf. Nobody gave a shyt about the Avengers until the movies. Your entire take on the x-men is erroneous breh

X-Men made the spinoff books that other books copy now because they were so successful

Somebody tell em​

 

[humminbird]

Integrating the fox stories in any form
Including Hugh jackman
Actually correcting myself
Bringing in the fox actors into the mcu permanently

 

[Rhapscallion Démone]

And the team most people remember is the 90s

That was where the FOX movies went wrong. They weren't able to really let the X-Men lore play out like it should have because they were using the wrong roster and were making Wolverine the focus.

 

[Days of Future Piff]

Spider-man was always that dude.
The Fantastic Four were the original "it" team until the X-men started blowing up in the 80s.
The mutants pretty much ran the 80s and 90s to the point that the rest of the Marvel U became an afterthought.
The X-men dominance of the 80s and 90s ended due to several factors though...

* Things got really messy with the comics after the Astonishing/Messiah complex era.
- Too many books to keep up with
- Too many wack characters
- Too much Wolverine
- Too many retcons, reboots, and conovluted stories
- Too many fanboys/fangirls writing the books
- Very few writers who lived up to the GOATness of the Claremont/John Byrne era

* Back-to-back trash movies derailed the film franchise (X-men 3 and Origins).
Both movies messed up classic stories and killed off/disrespected a ton of pivotal characters, especially Cyclops. It was obvious that the people running the X-men films hadn't done their homework on the comics, and the fans got tired of all their favorite characters getting their thunder stolen by Wolverine for the millionth time.
By the the time FOX got it together and came correct with X-men First Class, the MCU Avengers hype was already in full swing and it was too late. The success of the Avengers (2012) was the final nail in the coffin for the X-men's media dominance. Fox trying to make Mystique happen for 6 years didn't help.

* Once Disney bought Marvel, they started treating the X-men (and Fantastic Four) like personae non-grata since Disney didn't have the film rights.
This means that the X-men stopped getting cartoons, toys, video games, merchandise, etc. This is why Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite had such a trash lineup of characters.
Even in the comics you had the X-men getting vilified and jobbed out just to make the Avengers and Inhumans look better. The mouse wanted things a certain way.

 

[BlackMajik]

Trying to David Ruffin Wolverine smh

They better not try to nerf the X-Men to big up the damn Avengers

X-Men>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Avengers

 

[parallax]

The public at large didn't care about most of the Avengers until the MCU came out

Literally no one at school was talking about Captain America or Thor.

Saying FOX made shytty movies doesn't mean no one cared about the X-Men that were being promoted at the time

Fukking Ant-Man has a movie

And saying X-Men didn't help carry Marvel proves you wasn't there, or are just arguing to argue

i didnt say xmen didnt help carry, you said that the xmen were carrying marvel on its back, like spider man and the hulk didnt do heavy lifting for the brand as well.

and spider man specifically put marvel up there.

Well spiderman is and always will be #1 for marvel. That is beside the point.

the X-Men were by far the most successful property in comics in the 90s. The best selling comic of all time is this

1991

everyone cares about X-men as a unit...the reason why the series DIED a slow death was the decision to focus on the wrong individuals (mystique, and that wet blanket jean grey performance), and never getting to the cyclops and storm led xmen blue and gold teams and the lineup above, and from the animated series.

fox VALUED the xmen property over the avengers and others when marvel was broke asf. Nobody gave a shyt about the Avengers until the movies. Your entire take on the x-men is erroneous breh

because wolverine was a huge character. hes bigger than the brand at the moment and has been for a long time. i dont see any storm or cyclops and the starjammers solo media released even though they would be dope, and there hasnt been anything released with the xmens name on it outside of comics that hasnt had wolverine in it in some pivotal role. and if hes not involed it does poorly like the last 3 xmen movies hell even the newest xmen themed game is a wolverine solo. as much as i love many of the characters, they are mostly just replaceable cogs to the major xmen machine. the mcu could definetely change that, but as is, tell me im wrong? you still have cats here call cyclops a boy scout like he hasnt evolved over the years

 

[CHICAGO]

holocaust gotta go homey.


Unless they can say Magneto is immortal, ages slowly, or time traveled….. ain’t no one trynna see a barely mobile 85+ year old Magneto



I don’t care about him having grey/white hair but at minimum he should look it be around the ago of Timothy Olphant (or whatever his name is)

ALL OF THAT HOLOCAUST shyt
CAN STILL HAPPEN IN THEIR VARIANT UNIVERSE AND THEY CAN STILL
BE YOUNG WHEN THEY GET
MULTIVERSED OVER.

WE SAW LOKI WITH
AN OLD ASS VARIANT OF LOKI
AND KID LOKI.



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[humminbird]

I still think they can just make magneto age slower so he looks in his 30’s by present day but still experienced the holocaust
His powers were growing slowly the entire time and he trains it by killing evil humans
He meets Charles around the 70’s-80’s and they have a fallout in the 2000’s
Charles helps amplify his power and now magneto wants to kill human

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

They can just have magneto reference his parents being in the holocaust. Its not that complex.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

ALL OF THAT HOLOCAUST shyt
CAN STILL HAPPEN IN THEIR VARIANT UNIVERSE AND THEY CAN STILL
BE YOUNG WHEN THEY GET
MULTIVERSED OVER.

WE SAW LOKI WITH
AN OLD ASS VARIANT OF LOKI
AND KID LOKI.



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But how? You trynna say in a variant world the holocaust was now in 70s/80s?

my thing is….. as dope as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are and were.

Ain’t no one tryna see a new trilogy of an and Xavier and Magneto.


I want them to go something along the lines of the animated show/comic where X and Mag are not too much order than the Xmen. At maximum 10-20 years so if Scott is say 26, X & M should be around 42-47

 

[CHICAGO]

But how? You trynna say in a variant world the holocaust was now in 70s/80s?

my thing is….. as dope as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen are and were.

Ain’t no one tryna see a new trilogy of an and Xavier and Magneto.


I want them to go something along the lines of the animated show/comic where X and Mag are not too much order than the Xmen. At maximum 10-20 years so if Scott is say 26, X & M should be around 42-47

NAH THEY CAN USE
THE MAGNETO & XAVIER
FROM THE LAST QUADRILOGY.

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[Days of Future Piff]

They can just have magneto reference his parents being in the holocaust. Its not that complex.

I would just say that Hydra maintained secret death camps all through Europe after WW2 ended... Magneto could have lost his family there in the 60s/70s/80s/90s, setting up for his eventual ideological clash with Charles.

And facts on the X-men having been bigger than Avengers before the movies.

X-men #1 was the best selling single comicbook of ALL time...

And the Claremont/John Byrne era gave us two of the most influential comic stories EVER put to print.
No Avengers anything ever written in the comics is seeing the GOATNESS of the Dark Phoenix Saga or Days of Future Past.

These stories are still revered TODAY, over almost half a century later.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

NAH THEY CAN USE
THE MAGNETO & XAVIER
FROM THE LAST QUADRILOGY.

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meh….. I’d be more fine with them keeping McAvoy and Fassbender

We know just by the way things work business wise, trilogy’s take 8-12 years to finish.

I want a fairly Middle Aged cast in them roles….. not grandpas

 

[8WON6]

the worst thing they could do would be focusing solely on the racial analogy of mutants=black people.