Haitian culture has much more in common with other AfroNewWorld creole cultures, like the AA sub culture of Louisiana Creoles than it does with any culture on the African continent, so your point is pretty weak.
What is Black American Culture? (inspired by The Salon)
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Haitian culture has much more in common with other AfroNewWorld creole cultures, like the AA sub culture of Louisiana Creoles than it does with any culture on the African continent, so your point is pretty weak.
Field Marshall Bradley
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Nah. Its not..... Cause what you just said doesn't dismiss anything... The fact you compared it to New Orleans and then called it a "sub culture" says it all..
How can you righteously call something "AA" culture, when its accepted by less than 3% of the AA population...
How can you righteously call something "AA" culture, when its accepted by less than 3% of the AA population...
You really don't understand what you are talking about.
Very few Africans practices traditional African religions and are overwhelmingly Christian/Muslim, yet make a thread on "African culture" and people will list all kinds of shyt that no one on the continent practices in large part.
Just admit you don't know what the fukk you are talking about and keep it moving.
IllmaticDelta
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That's great, but that wasn't my point......
How can you righteously call something "AA" culture, when its accepted by less than 3% of the AA population...
Afram regional cultures spread across all of black america the same way HipHop started in NYC and spread to the South or Blues started in Mississippi and spreaded North.
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Field Marshall Bradley
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Actually I do..... I know you have your disdain for Africans and Hatians and what not..... But the majority of this thread, and really 90% of this site, have no idea of what the purpose of culture is...
No one has remedied that as of yet.... So there is no way you can say I don't know what I'm talking about... It might make you feel better... But its not true.....
And your statement about what Africans practice today has nothing to do with what I'm talking about
IllmaticDelta
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Nah. Its not..... Cause what you just said doesn't dismiss anything... The fact you compared it to New Orleans and then called it a "sub culture" says it all..
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and he's right..the culture of Haiti is Creolized hence, it has more in come with the Afro New World than it does with Africa or Europe. Listen to Haitian music, nothing stereotypically African about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Haiti
Field Marshall Bradley
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You didn't even know what the definition of culture was a few pages ago
Stop being slow... I asked that poster what the definition of culture was to see where he was coming from, cause frankly there are a gang of definitions for culture
Nah. Its not..... Cause what you just said doesn't dismiss anything... The fact you compared it to New Orleans and then called it a "sub culture" says it all..
How can you righteously call something "AA" culture, when its accepted by less than 3% of the AA population...
Uhh, you do understand the concept of a cultural continuum, right? As in there's not a %100 static cultural monolith even among just AAs themselves, you can break them down and isolate them even more into smaller sub groups based on factors like region as IllmaticDelta stated just like with just about anything ethnicity out there but of course there are dominant over arching elements which still cluster them together as one ethnicity. Sub-ethnic groups/clans/tribes are a universal phenomenon. Aren't Tajiks still Persians; Aren't Wodaabe still Fulani; Aren't Bedouins still Arabs; Aren't Adyghe still Circassians?
Speaking as someone who's of Texas/Louisiana Creole heritage I can see you're a little foggy on who we are. As US creole-culture isn't specific to Louisiana, let alone just New Orleans, but more of a "Gulf Coast"(and even that leaves out some people) heritage. The "Creoles" are simply what French and Spanish slavers referred to people of African descent who were born in the colonies as apposed to the noncreolized African born people- These distinctions made a difference in the price that individual slaves drove on the market. And even creole culture today is not a monolith nor has it ever been as creole culture is SW rural Louisiana is noticeably, to creole people of course, different then that of New Orleans(even with different wards in the NO there are 100s of year old neighborhood and family specific practices), and creole culture in Nacogdoches, TX is even more distinct than both of them due to the higher degree of non-Isleno spaniard influences vs the French influences in Southern Louisiana. But regardless it's still apart of general US creole culture and by virtue the general African-American cultural continuum.
Edit: Even Southern Atlantic coast Gullah/Geechee culture isn't an %100 monolith as I'm sure that the Charleston, SC geechee culture is noticeably different than that of the Sea Islands, and even more so with Geechees in Florida due to the history of maroonage there.
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People like to try to separate according to skin color, but black culture=American culture.
There are some aspects of American culture that black folks are more likely to partake in. Rap, soul food, ect.
But those things don't exist in a vacuum. They came to be due to overall American history, and they are enjoyed by non-blacks as much as blacks.
So in conclusion OP is asking a bad question. There's no such thing as "black culture"
There are some aspects of American culture that black folks are more likely to partake in. Rap, soul food, ect.
But those things don't exist in a vacuum. They came to be due to overall American history, and they are enjoyed by non-blacks as much as blacks.
So in conclusion OP is asking a bad question. There's no such thing as "black culture"
K.O.N.Y
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breh you moving into smart-dumb nikka territory now. Cats like @KidStranglehold @IllmaticDelta and @Supper been breaking this shyt down on some Barney,sesame street type shyt to you. And your still being obtuseNah. Its not..... Cause what you just said doesn't dismiss anything... The fact you compared it to New Orleans and then called it a "sub culture" says it all..
How can you righteously call something "AA" culture, when its accepted by less than 3% of the AA population...
You gotta be trolling at this point
Field Marshall Bradley
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Actually. Nothing has been broken down perse.....
If only 3% of the black population accept something, can it be considered, "black culture" when the other 97% don't agree or accept it..
Furthermore, no one, out of all the replies, has really answered my initial question, which is what is the purpose of culture....?
Actually. Nothing has been broken down perse.....
If only 3% of the black population accept something, can it be considered, "black culture" when the other 97% don't agree or accept it..
Furthermore, no one, out of all the replies, has really answered my initial question, which is what is the purpose of culture....?
So can anyone give an example of an aspect of "black culture" that was created, maintained, and engaged by black Americans, devoid of influence/participation of whites or other Americans?
d'jarbargel
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African Americans don't get to determine what is their culture
that's exactly right, the culture fairy determines that