What does Michael Jordan do better than LeBron besides score?

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Heart is never backing down. How many times you seen Bron back down? The (very few) times Bron has folded it has been because the other team came with a strategy that he wasn't ready for, not because the moment or opponent intimidated him.



MJ is the only guy I'd want to have ball over Bron with the game on the line. That "not clutch" stuff is a function of not winning rings early and passing rather than forcing bad shots late more so than reality.
When it comes to actually taking and making shots...there's several players I'd take over lebron in a clutch situation...namely almost anyone on the GS starting line up

When it comes to pure dominance in the paint, getting fouls and still finishing...I agree, I don't think i'd take anyone else over Lebron right now.

I honestly don't think i'd take anyone over Jordan in a clutch situation, whether it's in the paint or a perimeter shot.
 

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Why is Jordan seen as this all-time defender? Who was the best offensive player that he used to guard? The way guys talk about MJ, you'd think that he'd be able to hold KD to 8 points per game while dropping 50 on him....

Matter of fact, he never guarded anyone close to KD's level offensively. Best offensive player he guarded was probably a young AI and that was past his prime. Bron's rivals are better than MJ's rivals also.
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Go watch film then read quotes from players in the past


MJ was the best perimeter defender ever, ask pippen
 

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When it comes to actually taking and making shots...there's several players I'd take over lebron in a clutch situation...namely almost anyone on the GS starting line up

When it comes to pure dominance in the paint, getting fouls and still finishing...I agree, I don't think i'd take anyone else over Lebron right now.

I honestly don't think i'd take anyone over Jordan in a clutch situation, whether it's in the paint or a perimeter shot.

This is one thing that I don't think gets credit for. He's able to consistently impose his will on an entire game.
 

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When it comes to actually taking and making shots...there's several players I'd take over lebron in a clutch situation...namely almost anyone on the GS starting line up

When it comes to pure dominance in the paint, getting fouls and still finishing...I agree, I don't think i'd take anyone else over Lebron right now.

Did you see those players with their season on the line last year? :usure: They all folded...like seriously every single one of them :dead: Meanwhile Bron scored 8 of the Cavs last 11 points on the road with the season on the line and no they all weren't in the paint (not to mention the comeback from down 3-1). Beyond that, Mike was a beast taking the ball to the hole and the smartest, best players will take it to the hole as often as possible as that is the most high percentage shot.
 
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Did you those players with their season on the line last year? :usure: They all folded...like seriously every single one of them :dead: Meanwhile Bron scored 8 of the Cavs last 11 points on the road with the season on the line and no they all weren't in the paint (not to mention the comeback from down 3-1). Beyond that, Mike was a beast taking the ball to the hole and the smartest, best players will take it to the hole as often as possible as that is the most high percentage shot.
If we're analyzing the last finals...let's be honest and admit that the Cavs won that game on Kyrie's last few shots...not Lebrons.

Like I said...Lebron is the best right now, in the paint and as a finisher...but say what you want...I'd take Curry, Klay, or KD for a mid range or perimeter shot with the game on the line.
 

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Defend?

Have a variety of legitimate go to moves when it comes to scoring?

the flaw in Bron's game is that he doesn't have any fakes/pump fakes. what you see is what you get with Bron. when he's driving to the lane and his defender is on his hip you don't see him use a fake or shot fake to get the defender in the air and get an easier bucket. If he's not on the break or has a head of steam coming downhill his buckets are difficult because he doesn't keep his defender guessing with any type of fakes.
 

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Jordan's better at everything other than 3 point shooting and Jordan was so unfathomably good at mid range 2 pt shooting that it didn't really matter that his 3p% was trash, he'd undoubtedly be better at that if he was from this current generation anyway. Better scorer (the best ever obviously), faster slasher in his prime than Bron, way better jump and free throw shooter, grabbed as many rebounds as you could reasonably expect from a 6'6 guard who played on the same team as modern GOAT rebounder Rodman, better defender. And honestly, dude would have been just as good if not better a facilitator as Bron if Doug Collins kept him at point permanently instead of as a one off experiment that season in 89. Jordan was never surrounded by multiple 3 point snipers like Bron is especially this season to rack up assists from either.

Lebron is a top 5 all time player, could retire as the #2 of all time and he still wouldn't really be anywhere close to :mjgrin: That's not a knock on Bron, Jordan really is just that transcendent of a player, few sports have such a clear, undisputed GOAT as basketball does and that's because if you drop the stan wars and actually look at what the dude's accomplished it makes even other all-time greats careers look like shyt in so many aspects.
Yeah, all of that is thrown into a category known as "SCORING":skip:...

Jordan was a better facilitator:what:? Just because he almost averaged a triple double:what:? James Harden averaged more assists than Bron so that makes him a better passer, huh:comeon:? Or how about Russ:comeon:?
 
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Bron is athletic, big, strong, and has a high IQ


Jordan is athletic, strong, ultra fundamental, crafty, phenomenally competitive, has a high IQ, to go along with his technical mastery of the game of basketball.


Bron is nowhere as crisp or precise in his execution.Nor does he have the same artistic grace/flair to match His Airness


Bron will always have to settle for 2nd best....that's not such a bad thing:manny:
 

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If we're analyzing the last finals...let's be honest and admit that the Cavs won that game on Kyrie's last few shots...not Lebrons.

Like I said...Lebron is the best right now, in the paint and as a finisher...but say what you want...I'd take Curry, Klay, or KD for a mid range or perimeter shot with the game on the line.

If we are being honest, Kyrie had a last shot, singular...Bron had a last few, plural.

I'd take Bron with the ball and his ability to create whether it be for himself or others. And once again, we saw all those guys fold in those very situations just last year while Bron thrived. It's hilarious how you are pushing this talking point despite the cold hard ass evidence to the contrary.
 

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the flaw in Bron's game is that he doesn't have any fakes/pump fakes. what you see is what you get with Bron. when he's driving to the lane and his defender is on his hip you don't see him use a fake or shot fake to get the defender in the air and get an easier bucket. If he's not on the break or has a head of steam coming downhill his buckets are difficult because he doesn't keep his defender guessing with any type of fakes.
One of Lebrons major gifts is that he's good at rebounding his own missed shot in the paint.
Th dude will go in the paint...miss the shot...rebound it about 2-3 times, make it on the last attempt and get fouled.
No hate...that's just what I see :hubie:

Jordan and Kobe on the other hand, are "finesse" players...they have a intuitive ability and quickness off the dribble and adjust their body on any given shot when they have to. LBJ doesn't really do that...he's more a Jerome Bettis/Marion Butts/ Christian Okoye in the paint
 
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