What does HL think about Planned Obsolescence?

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

2 things....
1. FOR THE TIME, American cars were ok like back in 60-early 70's, in terms of reliability...and quite honestly i think that has a lot to do with the simplicity of the product. When I was 16 i bought a 1964 Ford Custom and was able to restore the thing (minus a paint job) pretty much all by myself, that included striping the engine down, rebuilding it and to be honest it was simple as fuk. So IMHO you were able to better manage your own car back then.

Jap cars have more or less always been on point because of their roots in racing. Precision will always lean towards stability.

Domestics were OK in the 60s/early 70s because they didn't have to deal with emissions. The Japanese were able to leapfrog the domestics in the 70s/80s because they had a much better understanding of emissions control, and from day 1 have just had better engineering/management. Japanese cars aren't too bad though. Engine swaps on them are pretty easy etc. Actually easier than domestics now because they design the cars to be easily serviced.

2. Old computers...Unless you're running hi end games you don't need one. I have an old AM2 Dual Core in my kids room with 2gb ram from like..i don't know 2002? Thing does EVERYTHING they need it to.

Yea I have a pretty old Dell laptop running Ubuntu. I think it has like 1GB ram. I actually use it for a lot of shyt, but it works for what I need it to do. The hard thing for most people to do is to keep a computer running safe and clean.

I think a lot of the purchasing of "tables" every two years has more to do with "Keeping up with the Joneses" than anything else. Like I said, I have a 2000 Maximum I use for getting two and from work when I don't take the train, I could really give two fuks about how it looks. It runs solid, I don't have a monthly payment and it allows me to make a payment on my other vehicle. This whole trend of replacing your car ever couple of years is fukin ridiculous. My sister does this shyt and now she's paying for a Denali and is at like 900 bucks a month on that POS.



Turns out flossing is detrimental to your finances and plays right into the hands of these companies.

Fight the Power...

@ $900/mo on a Denali

But yea you are right all the way around. I don't have a car now but if we move with jobs I will prob get a 95-99 Maxima. Those engines are solid.

 

[Ms~Opinionated]

there's a lot of truth in this HOWEVER planned obsolescence can also apply to the rate at which tech is divulged. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the crap we see is not the best we can get for a relatively same price.

As for cars, while they are "advanced" the parts that break tend not to be. It's usually low cost metal and/or poor design in an effort to save costs. I had an intrepid way back in the day that had the handle keep fuking up. Ultimately I pulled the door off and found they had a piece of METAL pulling on a piece of PLASTIC. Common sense is gonna tell you that the plastic will break over time. I imagine a $10 increase per handle (or $40 cost per car) could have fixed this. $40 bucks...

Same thing with the power windows. They had two moving pieces of metal being held together with a plastic clip. Over time the metal moved and broke the clip, over more time without that clip the two metal pieces bowed and the window didn't work right until i bent the shyt back and welded some stuff to keep them from doing that.

Thing is both these repairs were $200+ dollars had i taken them into their "service center". You're not gonna tell me they don't eat off that shyt.

What i wonder is how much money would America be saving if we didn't have to buy the next "best thing". I mean look at phones. I still use my Samsung SII and it works great. I wont get an S3...wtf for? Same with my ride. I have an old 2002 Maxima, paid for. Why on god's green earth woudl I upgrade if i don't need to? I save money because of it.

Would america in general be better off if people saved or if we spend (particularly when we spend what we don't have...)

A product is only as good as its weakest part.

What you said about the plastic parts is so true.

If a basic part fails in a product most people don't want to deal with the repair so they buy a new one. The most frustrating part about being a consumer now is that the little stuff breaks, especially on computers.

I had a Toshiba for 4 years and all my USB ports went out just after the extended warranty expired. Also the power cord port wouldn't charge my computer all the time. My HP laptop just stop working for no good reason, it wasn't the screen, it wasn't the hard drive, it was a mystery. LOL

They create these weak components that they know will break and frustrate customers so that they will replace the entire unit.


Nissan Maximas

 

[Brown_Pride]

A product is only as good as its weakest part.

What you said about the plastic parts is so true.

If a basic part fails in a product most people don't want to deal with the repair so they buy a new one. The most frustrating part about being a consumer now is that the little stuff breaks, especially on computers.

I had a Toshiba for 4 years and all my USB ports went out just after the extended warranty expired. Also the power cord port wouldn't charge my computer all the time. My HP laptop just stop working for no good reason, it wasn't the screen, it wasn't the hard drive, it was a mystery. LOL

They create these weak components that they know will break and frustrate customers so that they will replace the entire unit.


Nissan Maximas

Wanna hear the sickest part?
So i tried fixing the door handle like 5 times, ultimately you know what stuck? Some damn fishing string. I put some 10lb test line and wrapped that shyt up and it never broke. So had the manufacturer spent about 2 bucks and just used some fishing line it would have been all good lol.

Also, it's good to have some GENEAL COMPUTER knowledge, and by that i mean if someone drops a case, an HD, a mobo, a graphics card, some ram, a CPU, and cooler in front of you; you should be able to construct the computer.

Laptops are always crap because of the heat. I don't like them.

 

[Ms~Opinionated]

Wanna hear the sickest part?
So i tried fixing the door handle like 5 times, ultimately you know what stuck? Some damn fishing string. I put some 10lb test line and wrapped that shyt up and it never broke. So had the manufacturer spent about 2 bucks and just used some fishing line it would have been all good lol.

Also, it's good to have some GENEAL COMPUTER knowledge, and by that i mean if someone drops a case, an HD, a mobo, a graphics card, some ram, a CPU, and cooler in front of you; you should be able to construct the computer.

Laptops are always crap because of the heat. I don't like them.

LOL

 

[acri1]

Not entirely, but mostly a myth.

It's not so much that companies actively design products to fail after a certain amount of time as it is that they don't care. But here's the thing - considering how fast technology tends to become outdated, is it necessarily even worth spending more to make something that'll last longer?

You may be able to make a TV that'll last for 30 years. But if most people buy a new TV every 3-4 years, is it worth the extra cost?

Not really a black and white issue.

 

[Brown_Pride]

LOL

lol see that's why you'rew going to pay some "geek" 200 bucks to essentially plug shyt in. My suggestion, go online and buy an old $30 PC and crack that mofo open to see how things connect. It's not that hard and can save you a shyt ton of money. Building a PC is pretty damn simple actually...

 

[Ms~Opinionated]

lol see that's why you'rew going to pay some "geek" 200 bucks to essentially plug shyt in. My suggestion, go online and buy an old $30 PC and crack that mofo open to see how things connect. It's not that hard and can save you a shyt ton of money. Building a PC is pretty damn simple actually...

LOL

You are good with your hands and you're man so figuring things out interests you.

Those things put me to sleep.

The thing I have started to learn for myself is how to sew.

My clothes would get tears and holes very often so although I could sew a hole by hand I wanted to learn how to make clothes.

I made a pair of pajama pants, which was pretty easy. I'm still working on my second pair now.

But computers and cars, , I'll leave that to the mens.

 

[Brown_Pride]

LOL

You are good with your hands and you're man so figuring things out interests you.

Those things put me to sleep.

Do go on....



seriously though you could do it. It's literally like plugging in an appliance.

Go unplug your curling iron. now plug it back in. Assuming you didn't electrocute yourself or otherwise cause harm to you or others you have what it takes to build a PC.