What do you want to Achieve as a Producer/Artist? Advice Encouragement ect

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Greetings Coli Fam, Although I haven't started a thread in a while, and I've posted on others, I haven't been as active as usual. I know this thread has probably been made before, but as I was going through some recent threads I noticed that people were trying to figure out how to get more activity into the tunnel. Most people that commented had different ideas of what they wanted to do. Which got me thinking back to this question. What is it that you want to achieve, and how do you plan to get there if you aren't already?

Beginning with me since I posed the question.

I want to continue networking and continuing to do this as a career. In the past year, i've been in 5 different showcases, in 3 different states. I've networked and continue to network with various individuals that are both up and coming as well as established artists, and producers, to continue to build and expand relationships.

There is no secret trick to get you where you want to be, only hard work persistence and patience. One thing that was undermining a lot of people I spoke with, was what they believed the music industry to be. This Glamorous lifestyle, everyone knowing who you are, ect. You are able to do what you love and love doing it at all times 24/7. Not necessarily. Some Days, it can be nerve-racking spending all the time making beats that you feel will never see the light of day. Yet you look around, and you see all the people you look up to being successful, and living their dream. One thing people never seem to see, is the work they put in to get there, or there live's outside of music. I can tell you a few things from personal experience, it takes a lot of time.

I've been making beats since 06. So that's almost 10 years. 10 years.... nearly. Time is flying, and no matter what I do or what I achieve, I still feel at times like i've done absolutely nothing. But never in a since of giving up. The Feeling is more like, man.... I've got so much to do musically that I haven't got a chance to do yet. I'm still young, so that's an advantage of starting early. I also realize that in this industry 1 year feels like an eternity because of all the music that get's released on a daily basis. What else does it take to get to where you want to go?

Another thing that "Making it in this industry requires is a lot of money. Yes....You guessed it a lot of money. Going to Battles and showcases isn't free you know. That requires money. Depending on the showcases or battle you go to, you will be paying an entry fee. on Average $100--500 Oh and don't forget, some of these showcases are in different states so you are going to be spending a lot of money. Lets break it down.

Showcase+ Plane Tickets+ Hotel+ Food+ Transportation when you get to where the event is going to take place.
Well you get the point, it takes money and a lot of it.
What else does it take to really get in on the industry?

Networking, Networking is the most..... I repeat the most important thing to getting where you want to go [In my case] Everyone knows the story of "I know some big shot manager, ect in the industry give me your music and i'll send it over to whomever." Yea I'm sure if you've been doing music long enough you heard that one. Well that is a form of networking. Basically having contacts of people that you can help as well as they can help you. Notice the relationship goes 2 ways, this type of networking isn't a one way street. You have to be willing to help each other move forward in some way. Does it take anything else to get in?

Well It Takes Knowledge, The knowledge to know what you don't know, so that you can learn it. because if you don't know then how can you move forward it's like not having any sense of life. Without the sense to learn you cannot build and continue to move forward. I urge all of you to network with one another in some way other then just posting with and about each other on the forum, get an email get a number, get contacts. Because the people you support are going to be the same people supporting you. Oops there's -->Networking again.

In all honesty I just wanted to write this post because it seems like a lot of people at one point or another on the forum said "If only I had this" or had that" I wouldn't be in the same place." To me the forum is a place to help others and listen to others more so than just entering random battles, lets all help each other progress. Another commonality on the forum is people talking about jobs they don't like and that they wish they can do music full time, I can tell you that 80% of people doing this and are on the come up have something else going for them outside of music Do not get fooled by fantasies, Making it involves the type of sacrifice that warrants you having a job and then when you get off of the job, you have business to take care of, [rather its work or school] After your job/School if you only have 2 hrs of free time, devote the little free time you have on your craft. Have the Knowledge, to know the best way to utilize your time, and go for it. If and when you get discouraged know that it can be done, because those before you have done it and are continuing to do so.

I look forward to writing more posts like this in the future

I hope this post was able to help you in some way.
 
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I'm in the process of trying to build my brand and network. I've been rapping since middle school up until about three years ago consistently working on tapes performing at showcases open mica and what not. I fell back due to losing the love of making music. I've done about 400 plus songs but I hadn't made any headway because I was going about it all wrong I would finish one project and start recording the next one a week later. I must say being a solo act comes with a lot of freedom to do what you want and be able to really experiment. I also notice I still haven't devolved a signiture sound yet. I'm comfortable over any beat. I love the space the sample boom bap type beats give but I also love the energy the 808s and hi hats provide in trap beats. the biggest issue I have is I use to be able to skip all the extra shyt far as blog submission. Had a direct connect to blogs email the song and it's up nowadays I can't even get placed. So I'm just starting fresh trying to build relationships with blogger and producers and promoters. Build a loyal fan base and get a buzz going
 

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You know my views on this.

I don't want to be that famous producer, or be stupid rich. I LOVE this music shyt. I LOVE the feeling. I want to, as cliche as it sounds, make dope music with dope people. NOTHING in life has giving me the feeling that music has.

So in the long run, if I can have a career, and be ok, not struggling, making music. Id be completely satisfied. Im just starting out to networking. But this small step, is going to equal alot of leaps.
 

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-I want to get back in the groove of making music consistently.

- I want to craft a sound that is quintessentially me. My music was always chord and synth heavy in my teens (heavily inspired by G-Funk-era Dr Dre, J Dilla and R Kelly - yes, R Kelly lol), then I started to shift to a more trappy sound to fit in. Since Future Bass and the more Flying Lotus-inspired music as been on the scene, I've wanted to incorporate that a lot more into my sound. I have yet to do so but that's my immediate goal at this point. I love Hip Hop but I want to produce in other genres, particularly the newer, more electronica-inspired stuff. I feel it goes better with my love of contrasting dynamics in music - switching from minimalistic to big sounding.

- As far as rapping, I'm inevitably going to start again very soon. Matter of when rather than if. But I want to have a newer sound, and not just a current sound, I mean a hybrid of new and old. Relates to the above - a crafted sound. I'm not a big Drake fan, but I have great respect for the fact that he was able to craft a sound that is solely his - I hear a Drake song and before it even drops, I know it's that motherfukker :russ:. I have always liked producing a little more than rapping, but I miss being a performer and while I'm not a terrible singer, it's not my forte sadly, so emceeing wins by default. I remember being in this whole "Real Hip Hop" mindset when it came to music, but towards 2009/10, I began to feel incredibly stale, I was deliberately cutting myself off from how things were evolving and what I could incorporate into my recordings - even the stuff I would initially think of as wack.

- I do wish to switch up my live performances. One of the things I definitely want is a band. Something outside of Hip Hop. As far as solo performances go, I'm working on my piano skills so that I can play piano and rap live. At first I wanted to be the 1st one to do it, but loads of dudes have done it since, most notably Charles Hamilton. Now, my goal is to be absolutely phenomenal at playing and rapping at the same time.
 

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I was writing raps in elementary school, around 13/14 i got more consistent with it, I got into 90s East Coast rap, emulating them plus always liking words (I wrote stories before rap) I improved by leaps and by 16 I believed I was talented enough to make a career out of it. Two original projects and one beat - jacking tape later, I'll be 22 tomorrow and at a crossroads.

I get in my own way very much, mainly from not fitting into the typical 90s baby lifestyle and not being able to connect with people. I'm part of an umbrella of artists who have common goals, but are all different. One has that street lane, another is a singer who can rap, one who I been rapping with since 16 has a bunch of bangers in the vault, c shyt that can go in the club and be repeated by females. He has the most mainstream capability. Another one recently joined I'm not sure what he does as far as his content (talented producer though). I'm cerebral, personal, vintage I guess.

I'm by far the least socially inclined, my music always has been and always will be personal, and while there may be more average dudes than "boss" nikkas, you still have to appeal to them and females of various backgrounds and demeanors, and I'm not sure I'm capable of doing that outside of cookie cutter trap tempo/strip club music which I'm not tryna make a name from.

Right now it's looking like I'm going to completely submit to making shyt EYE love. I've gone from wanting that Drake/Kendrick/Cole level, Leader of my class type of draw to the Mac Miller/Cudi/Gambino type of draw but honestly I'm not even social enough for that.

So right now I'm not questioning my talent, but what I want to do sonically and if I can make even the MINIMAL social conformation to build a fanbase for myself. It looks very dark for that.
 
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I have big expectation in music , my biggest goal would be to get to tge poibt where beat maker make dbr type beat . I know it might never happen but if it ever hapoen i would be bless . Keep working with artist all around the globe and make sure the rapper that fukk with my beats make good money as well . Im thinking about starting out a label and sign artist since i have distribution service . I have no choice to do everything with internet since i can't go to the united states cause of my crmiminal record and wont be able to get there for a while . Im from quebec and the hip hop community here is a joke and no one make good money and take their craft seriously so that why i dont fukk with the emcee where im at . Don't have alot of show case and event where i live so i don't go there and like i said can't go to show case in the stats where the trap hip hop sound really popin . That holding me down for sure . My best advice i can give is to stay out of trouble if you want to make a carrer of music . That can really screw you up and make you miss opportunities .
 

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Anyone can make it in music nowadays.

now "making it" is different to everyone. But if making it is having a few songs on the radio. Doing some shows. Meeting bigger artists and making music with them. Having a million followers on social media...then all that stuff is 100% possible....and realistic.






































































IF you are willing to put the time and more importantly MONEY down.

you can BUY radio time. you can BUY reviews, you can BUY gold plaques, you can BUY your way on to the billboard charts. youcan BUY features.

and when you do all that stuff you will be the same as EVERYONE else that is currently or has made it in the biz.

the biggest problem I see with other Producers or rappers, musicians,etc is that everyone thinks that there talent alone is gonna get them where they want.
Like some record label is gonna come down and swoop you up and make all your dreams come true.....well this is the Music business in 2015 not 1985...that shyt aint happening.

I have rappers and producers contacting me and my team all the time. wanting me to use their music and pass it around to blow THEM up while they sit in the studio just making beats all day.
fukk THAT

Dudes just want to be able to sit around making music and have everyone else do the 90% of the work while they get all the money and glory.
fukk THAT

lets be real, ANYONE can make a decent beat, ANYONE can make a decent song that can be hot.

But if you ain't puttin inthat work, if you aint hustling, and if youaint backing up YOUR product with REAL money then you aint going anywhere.
 

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Anyone can make it in music nowadays.

now "making it" is different to everyone. But if making it is having a few songs on the radio. Doing some shows. Meeting bigger artists and making music with them. Having a million followers on social media...then all that stuff is 100% possible....and realistic.






































































IF you are willing to put the time and more importantly MONEY down.

you can BUY radio time. you can BUY reviews, you can BUY gold plaques, you can BUY your way on to the billboard charts. youcan BUY features.

and when you do all that stuff you will be the same as EVERYONE else that is currently or has made it in the biz.

the biggest problem I see with other Producers or rappers, musicians,etc is that everyone thinks that there talent alone is gonna get them where they want.
Like some record label is gonna come down and swoop you up and make all your dreams come true.....well this is the Music business in 2015 not 1985...that shyt aint happening.

I have rappers and producers contacting me and my team all the time. wanting me to use their music and pass it around to blow THEM up while they sit in the studio just making beats all day.
fukk THAT

Dudes just want to be able to sit around making music and have everyone else do the 90% of the work while they get all the money and glory.
fukk THAT

lets be real, ANYONE can make a decent beat, ANYONE can make a decent song that can be hot.

But if you ain't puttin inthat work, if you aint hustling, and if youaint backing up YOUR product with REAL money then you aint going anywhere.
How does that happen? Everyone doesn't have thousands of dollars expendable like that
 

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How does that happen? Everyone doesn't have thousands of dollars expendable like that
exactly, and thats why there aren't more ppl doing it....on that level. But you'd be surprised how many dudes are actually doing well even just locally doing this.

but for real, nowadays you need to have a solid team to push ONE dude. One person can't do it alone.
combine all the efforts in to one dude and push him. but alot of it comes down to money and you NEED to invest in yourself like that.
everyone needs to be on the same team.
 

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I have big expectation in music , my biggest goal would be to get to tge poibt where beat maker make dbr type beat . I know it might never happen but if it ever hapoen i would be bless . Keep working with artist all around the globe and make sure the rapper that fukk with my beats make good money as well . Im thinking about starting out a label and sign artist since i have distribution service . I have no choice to do everything with internet since i can't go to the united states cause of my crmiminal record and wont be able to get there for a while . Im from quebec and the hip hop community here is a joke and no one make good money and take their craft seriously so that why i dont fukk with the emcee where im at . Don't have alot of show case and event where i live so i don't go there and like i said can't go to show case in the stats where the trap hip hop sound really popin . That holding me down for sure . My best advice i can give is to stay out of trouble if you want to make a carrer of music . That can really screw you up and make you miss opportunities .

You should look more into online sources. Companies like iStandard let you send beats to them, for a certain artist, looking fora certain style beat. Theres chances there for people stuck in you're situation.
 

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You should look more into online sources. Companies like iStandard let you send beats to them, for a certain artist, looking fora certain style beat. Theres chances there for people stuck in you're situation.
I am not AGAINST iStandard at all, but I do know that they are a for profit service that doesnt really care if your music gets placed or not as long as they (istandard) gets paid.
sending music to these artists is really no different then finding dudes on twitter looking for beats.
except at least that is free.

you can do two things:

Do the Boi-1-da/Zaytoven,etc thing: attach yourself to a up coming artist and hope he blows, then you enjoy the ride when ppl coming to you to get your sound.

or

Create a buzz for yourself by putting out your own project, financing it and marketing it yourself. Using features that you buy.....now this is gonna be way more expensive. But you will at least have 100% control over it and you are being more PROACTIVE and not just waiting for that email or phone call from some A&R that your music has been chosen to be on a mixtape.
 

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I am not AGAINST iStandard at all, but I do know that they are a for profit service that doesnt really care if your music gets placed or not as long as they (istandard) gets paid.
sending music to these artists is really no different then finding dudes on twitter looking for beats.
except at least that is free.

you can do two things:

Do the Boi-1-da/Zaytoven,etc thing: attach yourself to a up coming artist and hope he blows, then you enjoy the ride when ppl coming to you to get your sound.

or

Create a buzz for yourself by putting out your own project, financing it and marketing it yourself. Using features that you buy.....now this is gonna be way more expensive. But you will at least have 100% control over it and you are being more PROACTIVE and not just waiting for that email or phone call from some A&R that your music has been chosen to be on a mixtape.


And what's you're experiance with all this. (just so we know the reason for said advice)
 

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And what's you're experiance with all this. (just so we know the reason for said advice)
for the iStandard shyt I remember going to 3-4 showcases when I had my boys involved. I mean it was cool got to meet alot of industry dudes but no one was really trying to "work" they all felt like they were there because they were paid and the moment the showcase was over most of them always dipped.
then they started their website charging dudes $100 or so or free if you did the showcase. Now the showcase was like $300 I think from what I remember and you got a free year on the website. During that year we pumped beats through there non stop. Talked with mad dudes that used that site to and with us and anyone we ever spoke to no one really got a call back. I remember we got some work with a dude named Frank Lucas jr( yea THAT frank lucas) and we were gonna do shyt with him but decided to go in another direction

outside of that, I did a lot of work shopping beats for artists. and some got some work others didnt. I had a pretty good working realtionship with some industry dudes that I would deal with regulary who would school me on some shyt when I was younger (dukedagod for example, if anyone knows who that is).
My homie was signed to a record label as an in house producer, and we were able to go in and see how alot of stuff really went down. Big producers coming through and "borrowing" your ideas and samples. Copying your hooks and shyt. He got paid but it was more hush money than anything else lol.
 
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