What do you think Obama would have done in Bidens situation about Israel?

[Dipsey Doo]

Ceasefire. Obama aint a jew puppet like Trump and Biden

Believing this is crazy

Obama would stood by and let Israel wreck shop

Remember his red line on Syria

 

[MischievousMonkey]

The same exact shyt

 

[WIA20XX]

It's weird to think that "the most powerful country in the world" has their hands tied.

 

[Yapdatfool]

FACT SHEET: Memorandum of Understanding Reached with Israel

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

FACT SHEET: Memorandum of Understanding Reached with Israel​

Under President Obama’s leadership, the multifaceted cooperation between the United States and Israel has reached unprecedented levels. This is particularly true with regard to the security of Israel. The new 10-year security assistance Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to Israel is the most recent reflection of President Obama’s unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security.
Under the new MOU with Israel, the Obama Administration has made the largest single pledge of military assistance in U.S. history:

• The total value of the new MOU, which covers FY2019- FY2028, is $38 billion ($3.8 billion per year). It will succeed the current $30 billion MOU signed in 2007, which will expire at the end of FY2018.
• This amount represents a significant increase over the current MOU by every measure, and will enable Israel to acquire additional advanced military capabilities from the United States.
• It includes $33 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) funds and an unprecedented $5 billion commitment in missile defense assistance. This funding will be disbursed in equal increments of $3.3 billion in FMF and $500 million in missile defense funding each year for the duration of the understanding.
• In practical terms, the level of funding specified in the MOU will permit Israel to update the lion’s share of its fighter aircraft fleet - including through the acquisition of additional F-35s - increase its missile defense, and acquire other defense capabilities needed to meet its threat environment.
• The multi-year missile defense commitment in the MOU will greatly facilitate long-term planning rather than missile defense assistance levels continuing to be appropriated year-to-year.
• The $500 million in annual missile defense funding under the MOU exceeds the average level of non-emergency support the United States has provided to Israel for missile defense over the last five years.
• Moreover, our decision with Israel to discontinue two anomalies in the defense relationship that no longer serve our mutual interests - Off Shore Procurement (the arrangement under the current MOU through which Israel has been uniquely permitted to spend 26.3 percent of its annual FMF package within Israel on non-U.S. products) and Israel’s use of FMF funds to purchase fuel – means that Israel will spend more funding, as much as $1.2 billion per year, on the advanced military capabilities that only the United States can provide. The acquisition of additional U.S.-produced capabilities and technology provide the best means to ensure Israel preserves its Qualitative Military Edge (QME).

Under President Obama to date, Israel has received a record amount of Foreign Military Financing (FMF) funds:

• Israel remains the leading recipient worldwide of U.S. FMF. Since President Obama took office, the United States has provided Israel over $23.5 billion in FMF assistance (from 2009-2016).
• In FY2016, the United States provided Israel $3.1 billion in FMF assistance to support Israel’s ability to defend against threats. This is in line with assistance provided in FY2014 and FY2015 and represented approximately 51.4% of the U.S. global FMF account in FY2016.
• For FY2017, which marks the ninth year of the current 10-year, $30 billion MOU between the United States and Israel, the Administration has requested $3.1 billion in FMF for Israel.
• This amounts to $8.5 million in FMF funding alone provided to Israel each day, helping it bolster its security and maintain its QME.

President Obama has also provided Israel with unprecedented levels of missile defense funding:

• In addition to FMF funding, under President Obama’s leadership, the United States has provided over $3 billion in missile defense funding for programs and systems for Israel.
• Since 2011, the United States has provided Israel with over $1.3 billion for the Iron Dome system alone. Iron Dome batteries and interceptors have saved an untold number of Israeli lives, particularly during the conflict with Hamas in 2014.
• During that conflict, when Israeli civilians were subjected to rocket fire, the President worked with Congress to successfully provide $225 million in short-fuse funding for the Iron Dome system above the $504 million that had already been provided to Israel in FY2014 for missile defense support.
• In addition to Iron Dome, the United States has invested significantly in the co-development of longer range defense systems such as David’s Sling and Arrow-3.
• In FY2016 Israel received $487 million in missile defense support, including for David’s Sling. Arrow-3, and Iron Dome.
• After successful joint tests of David’s Sling and Arrow-3 last year, FY16 is the first year in which missile defense funding for Israel also included funding for coproduction of these systems– further deepening our missile defense cooperation with Israel.

With over $26 billion in total assistance during President Obama’s tenure in office, Israel has been able to acquire new advanced capabilities to bolster its security:

• The United States provides Israel with unparalleled access to some of the most advanced military equipment in the world, including the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Using FMF, Israel is scheduled to receive 33 F-35 aircraft, the first two of which will be delivered to Israel in December 2016.
• Israel will be the first foreign partner to take delivery of this fifth-generation fighter aircraft.
• The United States has also provided Israel with several C-130 heavy-lift cargo planes; four SAAR 6 Corvettes; ten additional F-15 aircraft; Merkava tanks and Namer Armored Personnel Carriers; Hellfire missiles; the Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) and other Precision Guided Munitions.
• In terms of missile defense, the United States has paid for the majority of the production costs for the Iron Dome system since 2011, the centerpiece of Israel’s missile defense architecture.

In addition to FMF and missile defense funds, the United States under President Obama has provided other forms of valuable support to Israel:

• Signed by President Obama in December 2014, the U.S.-Israel Strategic Partnership Act authorizes $3 million to be spent on research pilot programs between Israeli government agencies and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
• The Department of Defense’s chemical-biological defense response units work with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to provide equipment and training.
• The Department of Defense has sold or provided free of charge millions of dollars’ worth of U.S. excess defense articles to the IDF, supporting their need for spare parts, weapons, and simulators to maintain their current fleets.
• Since FY14, the United States has allocated more than $47 million on research and development task plans for tunnel detection and mapping technologies.

 

[Born2BKing]

I remembered him and Netanyahu fukking hated each other.

 

[Luke Cage]

Lose lose either way for Obama. If he supported palestine you would be asking why he ain't giving money like that to the black community in the usa.
If he supports Israel you'd be calling him Genocide Barack

 

[acri1]

They hated each other.

Bibi And Barack: Scenes From A Failed Marriage

What went wrong between Obama and Netanyahu—as autopsied by the people closest to them.

highline.huffingtonpost.com

The real question is what could Obama do to assert American interests?

Pause current funding?
Veto future funding?
Withdraw funding?
Targeted Sanctions?
General Sanctions?

Send in American troops?

Biden is a long time Israeli lover, and even all that baby killing and civilian slaughtering got him like

And he can't "do" anything either.

If Israel was made into a pariah state, akin to South Africa in the 80's and Russia right now - they would still be aight.

They have their own food, own water, electricty, nukes, their own technology, etc. What they don't have China would gladly supply.

Meanwhile Germany and Europe gets "tut tut" and "tsk tsk"

They might not be able to "stop" Israel but they could pressure the Israelis by stopping or at least conditioning aid. If Congress overrides it that's on them but pushing back against Israel would only help Biden politically


Then again Obama was always better at reading the room than Biden. Biden's foreign policy is still stuck in the 1970s.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Obama was unquestionably harder on Israel, hence Bibi openly attacking him. But overall I think we'd see a very similar approach to this.

 

[Billy Ocean]

Same damn thing. Every US president, Democrat or Republican, would. Trump is going around saying Biden ain't doing enough for Israel. It's hilarious people are dragging him for doing what any president would do.

 

[Dipsey Doo]

America’s strategic relationship with Israel is lot deeper than people realize. Obama would have paid lip service to the far left wing and done nothing

 

[WIA20XX]

They might not be able to "stop" Israel but they could pressure the Israelis by stopping or at least conditioning aid. If Congress overrides it that's on them but pushing back against Israel would only help Biden politically

Kinda sucks that we gotta think of this in terms of electoral politics.

Though once the "right and wrong" box gets opened, it would never end

 

[God Of Art]

Obama would've called Bibi a bytch ass mfer as he writes a check....

He kissed the ring too..just did it with swagger

 

[Black Hans]

Get sonned by Netanyahu like he did on National TV in his second term

 

[UpNext]

Same thing but with better messaging.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

When did people become so obsessed with the idea that the president makes moves alone? Biden is not just doing what he wants regarding Israel. That's not reality. Regardless of if it was him Obama or even Trump Israel would still have the same level of support.

This is America's stance on Israel not Biden's stance. The support for Israel is prominent in both parties for regional strategic reasons. It's not a left vs right issue