What do the Ravens do with Flacco?

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Joe Flacco

1,478 completions on 2,445 attempts (60.4%)
17,290 Passing Yards (7.1 AVG)
100 Passing TDs
6 Rushing TDs (440 yards on 198 attempts for 2.2 ypc average)
56 INTs
48 fumbles (16 lost)
Sacked 173 times for 1,211 yards
86.0 QB Rating

David Garrard

1,406 completions on 2,281 attempts (61.6%)
16,003 Passing Yards (7.0 AVG)
89 Passing TDs
17 Rushing TDs (1,746 yards on 380 attempts for 4.6 ypc average)
54 INTs
44 fumbles (21 lost)
Sacked 179 times for 1,115 yards
85.8 QB Rating

yet one guy- on a bad team and a meh deep ball is called a 'game manager' and other - on a good team and with a decent deep ball- a very good qb :heh:
 
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Garrard signed (at that time) a big contract that was in the top 10 $$ for QBs & made him the highest ever paid Jag, so it wasn't as if he was paid like he was just a game manager
 

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I know what you mean....I just dont see how this changed anything...

Throwing the game winning TD to go to the SB would have definitely changed perception. In reality he's as you said an average/above average QB, that drop would have given him a pass and they match up better with the Giants than the Pats defensively.
 
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Garrard was not seen as a game manager with the Jags, but as the teams "franchise QB" thus the reasin he got paid as so ($1 million less than Romo and nearly identical to what A-Rod was paid).
 

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Garrard was not seen as a game manager with the Jags, but as the teams "franchise QB" thus the reasin he got paid as so ($1 million less than Romo and nearly identical to what A-Rod was paid).
and they released him 3 years later, obviously changing their thoughts.

point is when you look at those stats over their CAREERS (and not timeslices in which the contracts were signed) theyre similar. yet garrard is never highly regarded, and flacco is by some
 
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Flacco's career isn't over though. If Garrard had similar numbers when he was 27 where they might of perceived there still could be room & a window for improvement rather than at age 32 the circumstances would probably be different
 

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Funny how just before the season nikkaz was debating Flacco as a top 10 QB & better than Matty Ice. Now nikkaz trying to see what his value for Christian Ponder might be :russ:

@STAN_JONES gotta be rolling in his grave right now
 

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I think they keep him out of lack of options. But in reality he's already reached his ceiling as a game manager, maybe sliightly above that if you wanna get real generous. But I would def throw him in the bushes Alex Smith style once a better option comes along. Ravens got some playmakers on offense. Boldin was a top 5 WR easily in Zona off talent alone but has been used very poorly since he got traded. Obviously a lot of that is on Flacco not being able to take advantage. Not to mention they got a top 5 RB and a talented bunch of #2 's and 3's at receiver. Any top tier QB would wreck shyt in that offense....top 3 easily. Flacco is by far the weak spot on the field but sadly for the Ravens its slim pickings out there :yeshrug:
 

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It's crazy how one pass not dropped/ kick not missed could of changed peoples opinion of him.
He's a starting quarterback that can go beyond being a game manager and win some games. There aren't many QBs out there that can do that or options out there, so the Ravens will end up paying him (not elite money though).

He's above average. The problem this year is Ray Rice has been taken out of the offense. Unless you're elite, a QB needs a running game to be successful.

Still think he's a solid QB. All it takes is a down year for folk to call you a bum.
 
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