What do Black people GAIN from NOT voting?

[Asicz]

Deal 1: Vote en masse for liberal-Democrat candidates. Receive substantial economic packages that includes spending on black institution, social programs and causes, deliberately written to close the wealth gap between blacks and whites. Continue building liberal coalitions in Congress and in the courts that will fight for black issues and "tangibles" in the future.

Deal 2: Decline to vote in a national election if wildly unpopular shyt with no widespread or national appeal is not being pigeonheld to only one of the two parties. Receive nothing. Allow white power conservatives to build coalitions in Congress and in courts that will fight against all efforts for black issues and "tangibles" in the future, and will in fact systematically rescind some of our established rights.


What a deal. Which one do I pick?

I see how certain things look Wildly unpopular. Maybe we can reconsider the legitimacy of poltical action based on what is considered popular.


Also I am certain that some people see "wildly unpopular issues" are synonymous with Reparations.

I guess but a recent poll 80 percent of Democrats believe Black Americans should receive Reparations. (90percent of Repubs don't)



We had a US government that provided a leg up to white people while surpressing Black people and Black progress. That resulted in a loss that is seen to today in every Black metric. Actions should be taken


Marijuana legalization unpopular but got passed
Oregon legalizing all drugs was unpopular but got passed

Aboltion of Slavery and Jim Crow unpopular but got passed

Gay marriage was unpoplular got passed

 

[FeverPitch2]

If I stop voting we can nothing. If WE stop voting(buying cars) I bet these car prices would go down.

I dont vote because i just dont see the point. Money is what dictates your quality of life in America,not politics. Plus its a matter of self respect

Let's go with this example.
If people stop buying cars, how would they get around?
How would people's kids get to where they needed to go?
How do you get your groceries home?
Public transportation is already crowded.
There's only so many ride share drivers, who drive people in cars they own.
Some people need to drive as part of their job, like taxi drivers for example.
You may drive the price of cars down, but you drive the cost of public transportation up.
No one is going to sell a car at a loss.
Even if the prices decrease, you still gotta dig in your pocket and buy the car.
If you stop buying cars, you still have to deal with the issue of transportation.
Not buying a car doesn't fix your problems, it compounds them.

 

[Rawtid]

Not a single solitary fukking thing... Literally.. Nobody can name a single thing that black people got FOR not voting.. not one thing

We have fought and are still fighting to vote. Fighting/protesting as a collective strategy is what has yielded the best results, not necessarily voting by itself.

What if we used not voting as a collective strategy? I feel that would command a lot more attention.

 

[Asicz]

If I stop voting we can nothing. If WE stop voting(buying cars) I bet these car prices would go down.

I dont vote because i just dont see the point. Money is what dictates your quality of life in America,not politics. Plus its a matter of self respect

I guess it seems like
Poliyics impact policies that impact our life. Some we take for granted.

Money is needed to a capitalistic society to get things we need

Wralthy people get into Politics like that guy Trump.
There are big bags released from the federal government through policies thwt effect stock, funding for business and homes

Trump and wralthy people likr him vote and believe me he respects him self.

 

[FeverPitch2]

We have fought and are still fighting to vote. Fighting/protesting as a collective strategy is what has yielded the best results, not necessarily voting by itself.

What if we used not voting as a collective strategy? I feel that would command a lot more attention.

Voting is supposed to be strategic. Most people think of it as eeny meeny miney moe.

 

[Rawtid]

Voting is supposed to be strategic. Most people think of it as eeny meeny miney moe.

But for us it just hasn’t played out that way. So at least you can understand why some might want to execute a different strategy, right?

I don’t think any of your arguments for voting are wrong, I’m just not positive it will yield us as a group any better results. Individually and in small groups, it definitely works.

 

[ORDER_66]

What changes the system?
How do you think Jews and Asians get things done? I'm asking.

I'm asking Y'all muthafukkas

 

[Jalether]

We had a million threads on this and I'm sure we'll have a million more asking the same question that was answered ages ago. You already know why people have this stance, you just don't like or agree with it. That's fine. Vote however you want. It's not going to change people's opinion.

People want something in return for their vote. When you negotiate, if you don't like the offer, you make a counter offer. If two parties can't agree on the terms, you walk away. We're focusing on voting locally, because there are tangible benefits to doing so. This country owes us. Maybe not you. For those of us that are owed, we're not going to let the issue die, ever.

My biggest issue with this is majority of the people who share this stance are also actively praising and supporting conservative movement and republicans. Tariq the ring leader of the don't vote movement has expressed his support for trump countless times and never has a word of criticism for the GOP who are actively anti black both in words and actions

You can't claim you are taking this stance because you are pro black whilst simultaneously rooting for white supremacist and nazi. make it make sense

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

years of the same shyt and nikkas still believe voting changes the system just insanity

them jews and asians dont vote but gets tangibles cant explain how that works can you????

Are you gonna lie and tell me being black in 2022 is the same as being black in 1962, 1972, 1982, 1992? There has been very visible change to black wealth, education and economic opportunity in the past decades that all comes from voting, and electing people who understand and fight for our issues. Those people are firmly liberals, and they have virtually all been registered Democrats. Never in American history has a conservative politician, party, or candidate welcomed black people or issues as much as y'all beg them to for whatever reason.

And I really hope you're not another one of these coli dumbasses that confuses US foreign aide to Israel--a key ally in the region--and the "stop asian hate crime" bill which offered nothing to no one exclusively is some example of "Dems giving tangibles." We've explained this shyt to you inept morons over and over again.

No, other groups are NOT receiving secret, shady, lump sum checks on behalf of the US government for past and current grievances. Y'all listen to anyhting Youtubers say huh? Nothing sounds too stupid for you to wonder if you're just being lied to with sensationalist rhetoric.

 

[ORDER_66]

Are you gonna lie and tell me being black in 2022 is the same as being black in 1962, 1972, 1982, 1992? There has been very visible change to black wealth, education and economic opportunity in the past decades that all comes from voting, and electing people who understand and fight for our issues. Those people are firmly liberals, and they have virtually all been registered Democrats. Never in American history has a conservative politician, party, or candidate welcomed black people or issues as much as y'all beg them to for whatever reason.

And I really hope you're not another one of these coli dumbasses that confuses US foreign aide to Israel--a key ally in the region--and the "stop asian hate crime" bill which offered nothing to no one exclusively is some example of "Dems giving tangibles." We've explained this shyt to you inept morons over and over again.

No, other groups are NOT receiving secret, shady, lump sum checks on behalf of the US government for past and current grievances. Y'all listen to anyhting Youtubers say huh? Nothing sounds too stupid for you to wonder if you're just being lied to with sensationalist rhetoric.

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

Did u vote for that bruh???

 

[Cowboyz89]

We’ll be playing defense until we are dead then.

Then the next gen can have the same arguments with the same outcomes.

So busy keeping what we have that we gain very little in the process.

It’s a lose-lose situation. Hell we lost some voting rights during Obama. They are going to do it no matter who is in office.

We will be playing defense for the next 10 years most likely.
Demographic change is what will turn the tide.

Old racist cacs are dying and not being replaced with young racist cacs at the same rate.
Once Texas gets reliably blue on the presidential level, there will never be another Republican president.
That will protect the Supreme Court and the old members there will retire and die off.

Thats when protection of voting rights will begin.

The future is brighter than you think, but we are definitely in dark times at the moment.

 

[$cam-U-Well_Jack$on]

@The Velvet Soul Dawg, you know I didn't read those walls of text, right??? If you thought that I was finna read all that shyt then da joke's on you.

 

[ORDER_66]

@The Velvet Soul Dawg, you know I didn't read those walls of text, right??? If you thought that I was finna read all that shyt then da joke's on you.

 

[You Win Perfect]

Serious question.
I am genuinely interested in your philosophy.
I wanna talk to the brehs and brehettes, not argue.

Nothing to talk about or debate. It’s simple logic.
Just another anti-black topic
Why are y’all so obsessed with what we are doing

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

Marijuana legalization unpopular but got passed

By a coalition of elected LIBERAL Democrat politicians. Led entirely by West coast blue states.



Conservatives obstructed this every step of the way until we got it done.

Oregon legalizing all drugs was unpopular but got passed

Yep. Among the bluest states in the union. Liberals stay making your life better.



Now go on down and smoke weed in Texas and tell me how much you love your conservative buddies.

Aboltion of Slavery and Jim Crow unpopular but got passed

Thanks to who? Hint: not a single conservative.

Gay marriage was unpoplular got passed

You're right it wasn't. Obama and Hillary Clinton didn't even support it.

Gay marriage was not passed by "Dems" or "Obama", it was declared a constitutionally protected civil right by a liberal majority Supreme Court.

Once again liberals made everything happen.

Everything you have ever loved or that has gotten black people closer to equality came from corageous liberal movements and liberal/progressive Americans who ran for public office and won. Both sides ain't the same. And at no point in American history has anything every been accomplished through these hypothetical back and forth "leveraging" negotiations between liberals and white supremacists. And it certainly didn't get accomplished by people staying at home and handing over their political power to those very white conservatives.



Yalls little Republican party shilling propaganda is getting confused.