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Shield Hero is not trash FOH :camby:

I mostly agree with everything else, I'm not gonna comment on fire force because I didn't see season 2 but season 1 I thought was complete overrated trash. Someone in here rides for Fire Force so out of respect for them I won't call the series trash until I peep season 2 but I have no motivation to do so since season 1 was boring
high-tier mid :patrice:

its better than gobin slayer at least
 

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I'll keep it all the way reality with you demon slayer is not special and I got tricked into watching it because of the stannery. I'm anti-One Piece in this thread and I'd STILL recommend One Piece over it.
Demon Slayer is really fairy tail/radiant level but with amazing special effects and a baby yoda type character to charm people over.

It got 4 other main characters brehs I can divide. 2 of them shyts were due. One was "nahhh" (zenitsu) the other is Inosuke. That's 1 fire character every 10 year average :huhldup:

Fire force I haven't seen much of but its made by the people who made Soul Eater (a show I like) and I hear it turns up something crazy in season 2 so I think its probably fine but other brehs would know better than me.

Dr.Stone hype died down a lot. Its very science & survival oriented but got jokes. The thing is if its your type of show you will 1,000,000% ride for it :mjgrin: but otherwise you gotta be in the mood for it imo.

Just like how everything is considered to be dumbed down this generation. The same can be applied to people who criticize content. I have people who I consider reliable when it comes to a series to watch or read (a very small group). Not only have they consumed tons of anime and manga, but they're very hard to please when it comes to new series. The shyt that they actually like is not what I care to look for; what I'm looking for is why they disliked a series, if I agree with them or not. Usually, when you dislike a series, especially a popular and fan favorite in our world (or just anywhere that is popular), you will be challenged on your opinion. People who dislike certain series know this so they prepare arguments.

People who like almost every series or simply follow the trends on what to like doesn't have the same levels of arguments as the opposite. They don't own their opinions their opinions own them most of the time. Most arguments are usually based on emotions and the connection to the series they like rather than why they're connected to the series in the first place. Also, they feel as if everyone else liking the series is enough to validate the argument. The guys I know have like 20 stages of argument and reason as to why they weren't a fan of something. And I like that because it's a unique perspective that I want because it challenges me to look at these series more critically, and also I have to find logical arguments to back up series I personally enjoy but they would rather disect apart why it's not good or how it fell off.

Now what I'm saying is just a generalization. There are people who enjoy shyt way more than dislike that can also have valid arguments. But let's be honest, how rare is that in our world? Dudes spouting that bullshyt to why they like shyt. My final straw was a dude I knew personally at my college. The dude was on the square lame side, which most of us are that are super into anime tbh (generalization). But since he's a One Piece stan and deep into anime/manga I didn't give a fukk. But after a while I started to notice he was one of those don't own his opinion guys. I'm one of those guys who watches or reads whatever he wants whenever he wants. For example, I've probably watched Cowboy Bebop or Monster more times over the last few years than once with any current new series. He would be like "coWBoY BEBop is COOl and all BUT...." then proceed to tell me the current series that everyone is talking about. Dude was following trends to fit in and I couldn't get with that.

Sorry for the long rant but to finally get to my point. Dudes I trust will nitpick shyt I like. For example, they will tear apart Neon Genesis Evangelion. They can break down story structure, craft decisions, and small details on how it doesn't deserve the hype it gets. On their most casual takes shyt is pretty interesting to look at. "Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl" is." I like those type of perspectives that make me think.

I hear Demon Slayer is nice but the stannary is too much. People calling it series of the decade caught in the moment in shyt. Fire Force just seems to be too mid but has that toonami/dub stimulus package for people who are told what to consume. Etc.
 

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Just like how everything is considered to be dumbed down this generation. The same can be applied to people who criticize content. I have people who I consider reliable when it comes to a series to watch or read (a very small group). Not only have they consumed tons of anime and manga, but they're very hard to please when it comes to new series. The shyt that they actually like is not what I care to look for; what I'm looking for is why they disliked a series, if I agree with them or not. Usually, when you dislike a series, especially a popular and fan favorite in our world (or just anywhere that is popular), you will be challenged on your opinion. People who dislike certain series know this so they prepare arguments.

People who like almost every series or simply follow the trends on what to like doesn't have the same levels of arguments as the opposite. They don't own their opinions their opinions own them most of the time. Most arguments are usually based on emotions and the connection to the series they like rather than why they're connected to the series in the first place. Also, they feel as if everyone else liking the series is enough to validate the argument. The guys I know have like 20 stages of argument and reason as to why they weren't a fan of something. And I like that because it's a unique perspective that I want because it challenges me to look at these series more critically, and also I have to find logical arguments to back up series I personally enjoy but they would rather disect apart why it's not good or how it fell off.

Now what I'm saying is just a generalization. There are people who enjoy shyt way more than dislike that can also have valid arguments. But let's be honest, how rare is that in our world? Dudes spouting that bullshyt to why they like shyt. My final straw was a dude I knew personally at my college. The dude was on the square lame side, which most of us are that are super into anime tbh (generalization). But since he's a One Piece stan and deep into anime/manga I didn't give a fukk. But after a while I started to notice he was one of those don't own his opinion guys. I'm one of those guys who watches or reads whatever he wants whenever he wants. For example, I've probably watched Cowboy Bebop or Monster more times over the last few years than once with any current new series. He would be like "coWBoY BEBop is COOl and all BUT...." then proceed to tell me the current series that everyone is talking about. Dude was following trends to fit in and I couldn't get with that.

Sorry for the long rant but to finally get to my point. Dudes I trust will nitpick shyt I like. For example, they will tear apart Neon Genesis Evangelion. They can break down story structure, craft decisions, and small details on how it doesn't deserve the hype it gets. On their most casual takes shyt is pretty interesting to look at. "Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl" is." I like those type of perspectives that make me think.

I hear Demon Slayer is nice but the stannary is too much. People calling it series of the decade caught in the moment in shyt. Fire Force just seems to be too mid but has that toonami/dub stimulus package for people who are told what to consume. Etc.
Short answer: Be consistent

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Just like how everything is considered to be dumbed down this generation. The same can be applied to people who criticize content. I have people who I consider reliable when it comes to a series to watch or read (a very small group). Not only have they consumed tons of anime and manga, but they're very hard to please when it comes to new series. The shyt that they actually like is not what I care to look for; what I'm looking for is why they disliked a series, if I agree with them or not. Usually, when you dislike a series, especially a popular and fan favorite in our world (or just anywhere that is popular), you will be challenged on your opinion. People who dislike certain series know this so they prepare arguments.

People who like almost every series or simply follow the trends on what to like doesn't have the same levels of arguments as the opposite. They don't own their opinions their opinions own them most of the time. Most arguments are usually based on emotions and the connection to the series they like rather than why they're connected to the series in the first place. Also, they feel as if everyone else liking the series is enough to validate the argument. The guys I know have like 20 stages of argument and reason as to why they weren't a fan of something. And I like that because it's a unique perspective that I want because it challenges me to look at these series more critically, and also I have to find logical arguments to back up series I personally enjoy but they would rather disect apart why it's not good or how it fell off.

Now what I'm saying is just a generalization. There are people who enjoy shyt way more than dislike that can also have valid arguments. But let's be honest, how rare is that in our world? Dudes spouting that bullshyt to why they like shyt. My final straw was a dude I knew personally at my college. The dude was on the square lame side, which most of us are that are super into anime tbh (generalization). But since he's a One Piece stan and deep into anime/manga I didn't give a fukk. But after a while I started to notice he was one of those don't own his opinion guys. I'm one of those guys who watches or reads whatever he wants whenever he wants. For example, I've probably watched Cowboy Bebop or Monster more times over the last few years than once with any current new series. He would be like "coWBoY BEBop is COOl and all BUT...." then proceed to tell me the current series that everyone is talking about. Dude was following trends to fit in and I couldn't get with that.

Sorry for the long rant but to finally get to my point. Dudes I trust will nitpick shyt I like. For example, they will tear apart Neon Genesis Evangelion. They can break down story structure, craft decisions, and small details on how it doesn't deserve the hype it gets. On their most casual takes shyt is pretty interesting to look at. "Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl" is." I like those type of perspectives that make me think.

I hear Demon Slayer is nice but the stannary is too much. People calling it series of the decade caught in the moment in shyt. Fire Force just seems to be too mid but has that toonami/dub stimulus package for people who are told what to consume. Etc.

If someone calls Demon Slayer AOTD they’re caught up in the hype, are probably 12 or have seen 5> anime like Bryan Danielson:huhldup:

I fw it heavy but it ain’t THAT good
 

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If someone calls Demon Slayer AOTD they’re caught up in the hype, are probably 12 or have seen 5> anime like Bryan Danielson:huhldup:

I fw it heavy but it ain’t THAT good
What is anime of the decade?

obviously this takes time to think about. But with a short term thought I can only think of Hunter X Hunter (2011). Could JoJo as an entire series and not one part be considered it? I’ve seen people list MHA and I think it’s a fair choice but I think that would apply to the argument you have for Demon Slayer.

Hunter X Hunter, Jojo Bizzare Adventure, MHA, and maybe names like Attack on Titan right?
 

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Just like how everything is considered to be dumbed down this generation. The same can be applied to people who criticize content. I have people who I consider reliable when it comes to a series to watch or read (a very small group). Not only have they consumed tons of anime and manga, but they're very hard to please when it comes to new series. The shyt that they actually like is not what I care to look for; what I'm looking for is why they disliked a series, if I agree with them or not. Usually, when you dislike a series, especially a popular and fan favorite in our world (or just anywhere that is popular), you will be challenged on your opinion. People who dislike certain series know this so they prepare arguments.

People who like almost every series or simply follow the trends on what to like doesn't have the same levels of arguments as the opposite. They don't own their opinions their opinions own them most of the time. Most arguments are usually based on emotions and the connection to the series they like rather than why they're connected to the series in the first place. Also, they feel as if everyone else liking the series is enough to validate the argument. The guys I know have like 20 stages of argument and reason as to why they weren't a fan of something. And I like that because it's a unique perspective that I want because it challenges me to look at these series more critically, and also I have to find logical arguments to back up series I personally enjoy but they would rather disect apart why it's not good or how it fell off.

Now what I'm saying is just a generalization. There are people who enjoy shyt way more than dislike that can also have valid arguments. But let's be honest, how rare is that in our world? Dudes spouting that bullshyt to why they like shyt. My final straw was a dude I knew personally at my college. The dude was on the square lame side, which most of us are that are super into anime tbh (generalization). But since he's a One Piece stan and deep into anime/manga I didn't give a fukk. But after a while I started to notice he was one of those don't own his opinion guys. I'm one of those guys who watches or reads whatever he wants whenever he wants. For example, I've probably watched Cowboy Bebop or Monster more times over the last few years than once with any current new series. He would be like "coWBoY BEBop is COOl and all BUT...." then proceed to tell me the current series that everyone is talking about. Dude was following trends to fit in and I couldn't get with that.

Sorry for the long rant but to finally get to my point. Dudes I trust will nitpick shyt I like. For example, they will tear apart Neon Genesis Evangelion. They can break down story structure, craft decisions, and small details on how it doesn't deserve the hype it gets. On their most casual takes shyt is pretty interesting to look at. "Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl" is." I like those type of perspectives that make me think.

I hear Demon Slayer is nice but the stannary is too much. People calling it series of the decade caught in the moment in shyt. Fire Force just seems to be too mid but has that toonami/dub stimulus package for people who are told what to consume. Etc.

+rep.

I remember when those "rate this anime" threads were popping.

I wasnt even surprised at the number of posts where folks would attack other posters for not liking "popular" shyt, even when you could type a 1000 word post explaining exactly WHY you didn't like it.

Hell i was MORE surprised when a few posters felt like did about certain anime. Like Akira.

But its like that with everything. Lotta folks run in the herd for fear of being "wrong"
 

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What is anime of the decade?

obviously this takes time to think about. But with a short term thought I can only think of Hunter X Hunter (2011). Could JoJo as an entire series and not one part be considered it? I’ve seen people list MHA and I think it’s a fair choice but I think that would apply to the argument you have for Demon Slayer.

Hunter X Hunter, Jojo Bizzare Adventure, MHA, and maybe names like Attack on Titan right?

Yeah Attack on Titan or Hunter x Hunter maybe Steins Gate but non action people probably ain’t seen it. I would say JoJos but there’s too many people that don’t fw it

That’s only talking like general consensus tho, not my favorites. My favorite is JoJo :noah:
 

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Just like how everything is considered to be dumbed down this generation. The same can be applied to people who criticize content. I have people who I consider reliable when it comes to a series to watch or read (a very small group). Not only have they consumed tons of anime and manga, but they're very hard to please when it comes to new series. The shyt that they actually like is not what I care to look for; what I'm looking for is why they disliked a series, if I agree with them or not. Usually, when you dislike a series, especially a popular and fan favorite in our world (or just anywhere that is popular), you will be challenged on your opinion. People who dislike certain series know this so they prepare arguments.

People who like almost every series or simply follow the trends on what to like doesn't have the same levels of arguments as the opposite. They don't own their opinions their opinions own them most of the time. Most arguments are usually based on emotions and the connection to the series they like rather than why they're connected to the series in the first place. Also, they feel as if everyone else liking the series is enough to validate the argument. The guys I know have like 20 stages of argument and reason as to why they weren't a fan of something. And I like that because it's a unique perspective that I want because it challenges me to look at these series more critically, and also I have to find logical arguments to back up series I personally enjoy but they would rather disect apart why it's not good or how it fell off.

Now what I'm saying is just a generalization. There are people who enjoy shyt way more than dislike that can also have valid arguments. But let's be honest, how rare is that in our world? Dudes spouting that bullshyt to why they like shyt. My final straw was a dude I knew personally at my college. The dude was on the square lame side, which most of us are that are super into anime tbh (generalization). But since he's a One Piece stan and deep into anime/manga I didn't give a fukk. But after a while I started to notice he was one of those don't own his opinion guys. I'm one of those guys who watches or reads whatever he wants whenever he wants. For example, I've probably watched Cowboy Bebop or Monster more times over the last few years than once with any current new series. He would be like "coWBoY BEBop is COOl and all BUT...." then proceed to tell me the current series that everyone is talking about. Dude was following trends to fit in and I couldn't get with that.

Sorry for the long rant but to finally get to my point. Dudes I trust will nitpick shyt I like. For example, they will tear apart Neon Genesis Evangelion. They can break down story structure, craft decisions, and small details on how it doesn't deserve the hype it gets. On their most casual takes shyt is pretty interesting to look at. "Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl" is." I like those type of perspectives that make me think.

I hear Demon Slayer is nice but the stannary is too much. People calling it series of the decade caught in the moment in shyt. Fire Force just seems to be too mid but has that toonami/dub stimulus package for people who are told what to consume. Etc.

all of this is facts. I can accept any anime opinion if it's supported by reasoning that is consistent. Doesn't matter if I like the show or not, just that you put the effort into backing up what you believe.

but more often when I ask someone "why" they feel so and so about an anime/character, the response is usually "just because" or "it's weird" while also having "weird" stuff on their favorites lists. Which tells me they don't feel all that strongly about their opinions, and I probably shouldn't value what they think about the medium.
 

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AOTD from a success/impact standpoint is certainly Attack on Titan but its not for me so I don't watch it :yeshrug:
Quality wise it might be steins; gate :wow:HxH is a remake so I can't count it.

For a crew who are vetted to put me onto anime I have this thread. :win:I've watched a lot of the anime the active brehs in here talk about. I still have The Great Pretender in my watch queue which @LauderdaleBoss has brought up a couple times.

I honestly agree with a lot of what the breh straw hat luffy has to say but I dunno about the eva critique.

"Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl"

Saying Eva is all "fly me to the moon" is like saying Jojo is all "freak'n you" Its a strange way of looking at it IMO. The song precedes the anime and didn't even get it's identity from the anime. The intro is good but an intro CAN'T carry a show no matter how good it is. There's mad shows faded in obscurity with amazing intros. The "best girl" and general otaku culture following of the show to me demonstrates that Eva can be enjoyed on multiple levels, which isn't a bad thing, but still brings criticism to the show due to people not liking 1 element from 1 level. I'm certain with the original run of Evangelion (and End of Evangelion) was created with the intention of shunning that whole culture and escapism as a whole. The way you see Shinji is no different than the way the creators see Eva fans watching and living through him.

They then saw the success of Eva and how those topics became a huge boost in popularity around Evangelion, and created the rebuild of Evangelion with this in mind. This is why they added Mari who's created with "best girl" qualities in mind without the "downsides" of Asuka and Rei. Even Asuka and Rei have had their personalities and actions altered with this in mind and while it starts off similar and looks like it will be smooth sailing, shyt hits the fan even faster and turns out even MORE bleak than the original run. It is taking a stand to demonstrate the "future the eva fandom" and opposed it when they could have easily played it straight and caked off of merchandising. Even still, if you don't want to look at it to this level, and just want to enjoy it as a mecha deconstruction (or even as just a mecha anime), you are perfectly capable of doing so. For that, I have to give it credit.

The main element of Evangelion which somehow manages to avoid any critique at all, is how religious themes are all over the anime but pretty much serve no real purpose outside of cool visuals. They are literally fake deep because they make people think there is depth when they serve no purpose. The show already has depth on the coming-of-age side and the mecha side which makes it even weirder.
 
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AOTD from a success/impact standpoint is certainly Attack on Titan but its not for me so I don't watch it :yeshrug:
Quality wise it might be steins; gate :wow:HxH is a remake so I can't count it.

For a crew who are vetted to put me onto anime I have this thread. :win:I've watched a lot of the anime the active brehs in here talk about. I still have The Great Pretender in my watch queue which @LauderdaleBoss has brought up a couple times.

I honestly agree with a lot of what the breh straw hat luffy has to say but I dunno about the eva critique.

"Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl"

Saying Eva is all "fly me to the moon" is like saying Jojo is all "freak'n you" Its a strange way of looking at it IMO. The song precedes the anime and didn't even get it's identity from the anime. The intro is good but an intro CAN'T carry a show no matter how good it is. There's mad shows faded in obscurity with amazing intros. The "best girl" and general otaku culture following of the show to me demonstrates that Eva can be enjoyed on multiple levels, which isn't a bad thing, but still brings criticism to the show due to people not liking 1 element from 1 level. I'm certain with the original run of Evangelion (and End of Evangelion) was created with the intention of shunning that whole culture and escapism as a whole. The way you see Shinji is no different than the way the creators see Eva fans watching and living through him.

They then saw the success of Eva and how those topics became a huge boost in popularity around Evangelion, and created the rebuild of Evangelion with this in mind. This is why they added Mari who's created with "best girl" qualities in mind without the "downsides" of Asuka and Rei. Even Asuka and Rei have had their personalities and actions altered with this in mind and while it starts off similar and looks like it will be smooth sailing, shyt hits the fan even faster and turns out even MORE bleak than the original run. It is taking a stand to demonstrate the "future the eva fandom" and opposed it when they could have easily played it straight and caked off of merchandising. Even still, if you don't want to look at it to this level, and just want to enjoy it as a mecha deconstruction (or even as just a mecha anime), you are perfectly capable of doing so. For that, I have to give it credit.

The main element of Evangelion which somehow manages to avoid any critique at all, is how religious themes are all over the anime but pretty much serve no real purpose outside of cool visuals. They are literally fake deep because they make people think there is depth when they serve no purpose. The show already has depth on the coming-of-age side and the mecha side which makes it even weirder.

yeah, that eva criticism is easy to counter. I kinda glossed over that since I assumed it was loosely paraphrasing. The cultural criticism is more important than Shinji being a simp in a vacuum (which I'd argue he isn't ) or there being best girls (who are all insecure, flawed people who die gruesomely). Even the next episode previews of early episodes promise the viewer to deliver more fanservice, knowing this is what the audience wanted, only to get progressively darker.

another fair criticism is the favoritism shown towards Shinji at the expense of the supporting cast who are suffering no less than he is, and offer more interesting perspectives than he does. Though EoE kinda corrects that by allowing Misato, Rei and especially Asuka to have their moments in the spotlight.

haven't seen any of the rebuild films yet. If Mari is presented as an ideal girl with no flaws, then it'd be interesting to see that subverted.
 

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all of this is facts. I can accept any anime opinion if it's supported by reasoning that is consistent. Doesn't matter if I like the show or not, just that you put the effort into backing up what you believe.

but more often when I ask someone "why" they feel so and so about an anime/character, the response is usually "just because" or "it's weird" while also having "weird" stuff on their favorites lists. Which tells me they don't feel all that strongly about their opinions, and I probably shouldn't value what they think about the medium.
I mean we all have reasons why we like or dislike something. It just happens to be that a majority of people nowadays do not know how to articulate themsleves. That's setting a ceiling for the person and ruins the community when there is so much potential for next level discussions. The common answers revolve around feelings and saying shyt like "that character" "that plot" is so relatable. That is fair in a way, but those type of answers never reveal to why an anime is good or not.

Noaki Urasawa's has the ability to tell stories through historical contexts or specific geographical areas in the most entertaining way. For that reason, he is one of my favorite mangaka. The detail put in his work shows the hard work itself. Based on the context of the area, people, and time there has to be extensive research done. Not everything will be accurate but it's a creator's job to fill in the details the best way possible in order for the story to obtain maximum success. He's a big reason why I'm interested into geographical discussion, and in history in general. The difference between him and the history teachers I've had is that he gives you the medicine that taste good, that's "sexy" instead of plain old textbook shyt. Another person that would be a good example is Hirohiko Araki's craft is so entertaining that his personal interests becomes yours.


AOTD from a success/impact standpoint is certainly Attack on Titan but its not for me so I don't watch it :yeshrug:
Quality wise it might be steins; gate :wow:HxH is a remake so I can't count it.

For a crew who are vetted to put me onto anime I have this thread. :win:I've watched a lot of the anime the active brehs in here talk about. I still have The Great Pretender in my watch queue which @LauderdaleBoss has brought up a couple times.

I honestly agree with a lot of what the breh straw hat luffy has to say but I dunno about the eva critique.

"Yeah Shinji is one of the worst and most unlikable protagonists simps ever. The series is all Opening, Fly me to the moon, and favortisim to what the "best girl"

Saying Eva is all "fly me to the moon" is like saying Jojo is all "freak'n you" Its a strange way of looking at it IMO. The song precedes the anime and didn't even get it's identity from the anime. The intro is good but an intro CAN'T carry a show no matter how good it is. There's mad shows faded in obscurity with amazing intros. The "best girl" and general otaku culture following of the show to me demonstrates that Eva can be enjoyed on multiple levels, which isn't a bad thing, but still brings criticism to the show due to people not liking 1 element from 1 level. I'm certain with the original run of Evangelion (and End of Evangelion) was created with the intention of shunning that whole culture and escapism as a whole. The way you see Shinji is no different than the way the creators see Eva fans watching and living through him.

They then saw the success of Eva and how those topics became a huge boost in popularity around Evangelion, and created the rebuild of Evangelion with this in mind. This is why they added Mari who's created with "best girl" qualities in mind without the "downsides" of Asuka and Rei. Even Asuka and Rei have had their personalities and actions altered with this in mind and while it starts off similar and looks like it will be smooth sailing, shyt hits the fan even faster and turns out even MORE bleak than the original run. It is taking a stand to demonstrate the "future the eva fandom" and opposed it when they could have easily played it straight and caked off of merchandising. Even still, if you don't want to look at it to this level, and just want to enjoy it as a mecha deconstruction (or even as just a mecha anime), you are perfectly capable of doing so. For that, I have to give it credit.

The main element of Evangelion which somehow manages to avoid any critique at all, is how religious themes are all over the anime but pretty much serve no real purpose outside of cool visuals. They are literally fake deep because they make people think there is depth when they serve no purpose. The show already has depth on the coming-of-age side and the mecha side which makes it even weirder.

Again I didn't make that critique. I actually like NGE a lot. I just like to hear those unique perspectives.
But I do see their point. The openings and closings may not carry the story itself so to say but it plays a large part into it's popularity, reception, and quality. It's like an NBA championship team needs a Lebron. But if Lebron doesn't have an AD or even some role pieces like Rondo to show up then there is no successful championship team. The opening is not just good it's an iconic song that 99.99999 anime consumers know by heart. The actual series makes the opening and vice virsa. As for Fly Me To The Moon, yeah it's iconic in it's own right thanks to Frank Sinatra. But with how iconic NGE opening and story is, the song is not a stand alone Frank Sinatra song to the anime audience fanbase. If anything it probably introduced a large percentage of people who had never heard it before this. Just like how you can go on Youtube to see comments on YES Roundabout or Jodeci's Freak'n You saying "who's here from jojo!?!?".

And yoooo the religious shyt is my favorite thing about NGE :lolbron: I love how nikkas got theories that makes so much sense. Dudes will use the end of Evangelion movie to talk about how Shinji and Asuka are Adam and Eve. And how the choking shyt is to confirm for Shinji that he is living because if Asuka can confirm he's present then that means he must be real or some shyt. :russ: I can't remember the details I might research later to be honest. But it do be wild with how fans come up with these concepts on everything in the series from religion to coming of age to depression. I don't know much about Hideaki Anno yet but it's always crazy to think fans create more meaning than what the creator actually intended. But the thing about that is it's not the creator's job to make sure how people interpute their work.

As for you not liking Attack on Titan. Why not?
I tried watching Senis Gate at least five times and could never get passed episode 6.

+rep.

I remember when those "rate this anime" threads were popping.

I wasnt even surprised at the number of posts where folks would attack other posters for not liking "popular" shyt, even when you could type a 1000 word post explaining exactly WHY you didn't like it.

Hell i was MORE surprised when a few posters felt like did about certain anime. Like Akira.

But its like that with everything. Lotta folks run in the herd for fear of being "wrong"

I stayed away from those type of threads on the coil in general. It's never an actual discussion to why or why not. More so it's a jerk fest and :mjpls: moment plus it's just a way for some posters to find a way to have plaque threads.
 

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Now what I'm saying is just a generalization. There are people who enjoy shyt way more than dislike that can also have valid arguments. But let's be honest, how rare is that in our world? Dudes spouting that bullshyt to why they like shyt. My final straw was a dude I knew personally at my college. The dude was on the square lame side, which most of us are that are super into anime tbh (generalization). But since he's a One Piece stan and deep into anime/manga I didn't give a fukk. But after a while I started to notice he was one of those don't own his opinion guys. I'm one of those guys who watches or reads whatever he wants whenever he wants. For example, I've probably watched Cowboy Bebop or Monster more times over the last few years than once with any current new series. He would be like "coWBoY BEBop is COOl and all BUT...." then proceed to tell me the current series that everyone is talking about. Dude was following trends to fit in and I couldn't get with that.

:francis: That's the anime twitter space. Folks be just wave hopping, ready to put some gold plaques on that anime/manga just came out a minute ago & being that for next show(usually Jump stuff). I got no hate on the company but i'm like, y'all ain't going to do some deep diving in catalogs? Cause that's literally how I started, I went to bookstore and read whatever.
 

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:francis: That's the anime twitter space. Folks be just wave hopping, ready to put some gold plaques on that anime/manga just came out a minute ago & being that for next show(usually Jump stuff). I got no hate on the company but i'm like, y'all ain't going to do some deep diving in catalogs? Cause that's literally how I started, I went to bookstore and read whatever.
Pre social media was popping because if you were a kid you didn’t know what was in and what wasn’t. None of that even mattered. It boiled down to your opinion and yours only.

people be like “omg check black clover it’s amazing!” Like mother fukker I’m watching Golgo 13 in a movie fukk various women with no facial expressions right before he goes off to murder someone.

Not to say anything from this current gen can’t produce quality but I’m going with my own flow. Anime didn’t start in 2012. Lol there’s a shyt ton of anime and manga dating all the way back to the 1970s that’s just as good if not better, minus the animations.

I wish the anime world had the ability to talk about past series as much as they do with shyt in the moment like the music and sports community knows how to discuss dudes like DJ Quik or Kareem even though they were born way after.
 
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