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Crunchyroll finally have One piece streaming in Europe.....

Wish me luck :mjgrin:

Couple episodes in and the feels already....that dog guarding his owners shop even after he died :mjcry:
 

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Hard to get into Dorohedoro because I read the manga

Its consistently good but never gets great even tho it had all the potential to be

I really hope that the Hole gets explored there are still many questions also I hope we see humans giving the magicians a run for their money using technology, or even some other source of powers though with limitations and lastly I wanna see one of the cast take on the devils.
 

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Watched Serial Experiments Lain for the second time. it might as well been the first since I understood 0% of it. Made stitches for it and kinda regret some of them because they turned out to be nightmare fuel

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she's supposed to have a neck but it disappeared, probably because of the red splotches. Turned what was already creepy into something horrifying.

this is still the most unnerving anime I've seen. Not just because it's about an omnipresent little girl with split personalities that act outside of her control or all the weird symbolism, it predicts a future where people are so obsessed with internet communication that their online personas become dominant over their "real life" ones creating two separate identities.

So then...and this is where Lain lost me everytime...the internet becomes an alternate reality after so many people have created online identities that they prefer to their real lives. So they commit suicide for the sake of being able to exist fully in a separate plane of existence where rejection and other communication anxieties do not exist. Then Lain acts as the bridge between the internet and reality who makes it possible for that alternate reality to exist to begin with, and grows all powerful once people begin to worship her as a God.

Does it make sense how Lain is created? Not really. At some point it says that children were experimented on to create the Wired, something about channeling energy in their minds to power it and Lain was the lone success. I think the show is intentionally vague on that as the question of "who created God" never has any logical answers and God just "Is". So the mystery over her creation doesn't stop people from worshiping the one responsible for bringing their paradise into fruition, however she is able to do that.

The tragedy of it all is that the more Lain accepts her fate as a someone designed to conduct online influence...the less her grip on reality becomes and the less she is present in the real world. The computer she builds in her room literally takes over her body like a parasite and grows in size every episode until eventually she looks like a cyborg. At least one personality of Lain is a normal human girl. That's the one we see most often and that's the one who suffers the most as she becomes increasingly isolated. I don't think that version of Lain can ever connect to the internet, because once she does the other personalities take over, so her entire life is out of her control. Homunculus or not Lain has the appearance of a kid, and has social needs like a human, so it's hard to watch her rapidly deteriorate as her grip on reality weakens. In the end she completely severs reality from the wired, to the benefit of people and the sacrifice of her own tangible existence.

The ending is a little positive. Lain finds some solace in that she will always have a purpose in the world so long as the internet is dominant, just that she's the only one who can exist inside of it. Whenever anyone watches TV or uses their phone or does anything of the sort she is there with the user. There are several scenes with nothing but Lain's face talking through the screen, which I think it's supposed to give us the impression that Lain exists within whatever device we use to watch her. Present Day, Present Time.

So a lot of SEL is concerned with religious and existential ideas in an age where the internet is dominant and it's possible to reinvent yourself with a keyboard. What defines God, who created God, how can one person exist if everyone has a different interpretation of them, what are the consequences of blending reality with cyberspace and is there truly a difference between the two if people use cyberspace as if it was real, stuff that has no straightforward answers and you can debate until the end of time.

Lain doesn't really invite singular interpretations, so someone could walk away with the complete opposite impression and not be wrong in any sense. I think if I watch it again a year from now that'll be the case for me. Giving it a 10 on 2nd rewatch, think it got a 8 before
 

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This Gentle Criminal arc could've really worked for any other shounen with a good humoristic approach (think Foxy from One Piece) but MHA is so goddamn dry and serious all the time that it's painful to watch.

Like Deku is fighting some jobbers and still is crying about dreams and effort and all that shyt he can't stop crying about all the time.

:unimpressed:
 

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Watched Serial Experiments Lain for the second time. it might as well been the first since I understood 0% of it. Made stitches for it and kinda regret some of them because they turned out to be nightmare fuel

vXs7k12.png

HhzBwkj.png

Gikqfb2.png

KyF75g2.png

MVl0q7n.png

GsLc4aZ.png

QWWwKeN.png

0yPbhOh.png

q8hd4VY.png

Ytyfwqb.png

NHx8PrV.png

she's supposed to have a neck but it disappeared, probably because of the red splotches. Turned what was already creepy into something horrifying.

this is still the most unnerving anime I've seen. Not just because it's about an omnipresent little girl with split personalities that act outside of her control or all the weird symbolism, it predicts a future where people are so obsessed with internet communication that their online personas become dominant over their "real life" ones creating two separate identities.

So then...and this is where Lain lost me everytime...the internet becomes an alternate reality after so many people have created online identities that they prefer to their real lives. So they commit suicide for the sake of being able to exist fully in a separate plane of existence where rejection and other communication anxieties do not exist. Then Lain acts as the bridge between the internet and reality who makes it possible for that alternate reality to exist to begin with, and grows all powerful once people begin to worship her as a God.

Does it make sense how Lain is created? Not really. At some point it says that children were experimented on to create the Wired, something about channeling energy in their minds to power it and Lain was the lone success. I think the show is intentionally vague on that as the question of "who created God" never has any logical answers and God just "Is". So the mystery over her creation doesn't stop people from worshiping the one responsible for bringing their paradise into fruition, however she is able to do that.

The tragedy of it all is that the more Lain accepts her fate as a someone designed to conduct online influence...the less her grip on reality becomes and the less she is present in the real world. The computer she builds in her room literally takes over her body like a parasite and grows in size every episode until eventually she looks like a cyborg. At least one personality of Lain is a normal human girl. That's the one we see most often and that's the one who suffers the most as she becomes increasingly isolated. I don't think that version of Lain can ever connect to the internet, because once she does the other personalities take over, so her entire life is out of her control. Homunculus or not Lain has the appearance of a kid, and has social needs like a human, so it's hard to watch her rapidly deteriorate as her grip on reality weakens. In the end she completely severs reality from the wired, to the benefit of people and the sacrifice of her own tangible existence.

The ending is a little positive. Lain finds some solace in that she will always have a purpose in the world so long as the internet is dominant, just that she's the only one who can exist inside of it. Whenever anyone watches TV or uses their phone or does anything of the sort she is there with the user. There are several scenes with nothing but Lain's face talking through the screen, which I think it's supposed to give us the impression that Lain exists within whatever device we use to watch her. Present Day, Present Time.

So a lot of SEL is concerned with religious and existential ideas in an age where the internet is dominant and it's possible to reinvent yourself with a keyboard. What defines God, who created God, how can one person exist if everyone has a different interpretation of them, what are the consequences of blending reality with cyberspace and is there truly a difference between the two if people use cyberspace as if it was real, stuff that has no straightforward answers and you can debate until the end of time.

Lain doesn't really invite singular interpretations, so someone could walk away with the complete opposite impression and not be wrong in any sense. I think if I watch it again a year from now that'll be the case for me. Giving it a 10 on 2nd rewatch, think it got a 8 before
The OP was also fire. Please note that.

And yeah, while I DO like Serial Experiments Lain, it doesn't quite knock it out of the park. At the same time, it definitely presented a good path for a lot of other shows to walk - even sparingly
This Gentle Criminal arc could've really worked for any other shounen with a good humoristic approach (think Foxy from One Piece) but MHA is so goddamn dry and serious all the time that it's painful to watch.

Like Deku is fighting some jobbers and still is crying about dreams and effort and all that shyt he can't stop crying about all the time.

:unimpressed:
I have never once lied to yal. Remember that.

I don't know how MHA got the best animators in the business, but they are the ONLY reason MHA is a thing.
 

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edit - bleach news already posted

still hype



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The OP was also fire. Please note that.

And yeah, while I DO like Serial Experiments Lain, it doesn't quite knock it out of the park. At the same time, it definitely presented a good path for a lot of other shows to walk - even sparingly

the best OP

It's not something I'll put up there with the GOATs, but I give it credit for having substance that ties together all the weird symbolism and not being confusing for the sake of being confusing. That's how we got Ergo Proxy.

a lot of shows like SEL don't even have memorable characters. Lain sets it apart from them.
 
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