West Execs tired of the East being trash.

[Shadow King]

I’m not erasing anything. There has been one decade where the West has been clearly and significantly weaker than the East. We’re coming up on 3 in a row if the east doesn’t get it together in the second half of the 20s

You're absolutely erasing facts when we've had decades in which the West was an arbitrary conference. Select seasons in the 90s don't change that, and 3 in row is balancing things out.

You probably won't be able to give me anything substantial so I'll probably have to repeat this the next responses.

 

[SchoolboyC]

The East just won the H2H back to back years in 2021-22 and 2022-23 and have split the last 6 championships

The West has been better the last two seasons but it's not a early 2000s level gap to where the best teams in the East would've been 1st round exits in the West or where the WCF has been the pseudo NBA Finals

I don't see the NBA making a change that drastic just so the 9th seed in the West can make the playoffs or one extra West team can make it to the 2nd round

 

[iamduval]

Not sure if it was mentioned before but conferences and divisions are there so that the NBA can minimize travel and maximize the amount of games played while having the lowest cost of travel possible. Also, long travel can have impact on performance. So how do you distinguish between a schedule loss and a real loss if there's no conferences.

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[Jplaya2023]

I've said this before. But just eliminate East vs West and go to an MLB/NFL style conference system when the expansion teams come in:

American Conference
EAST
Boston Celtics
Cleveland Cavaliers
New York Knicks
Toronto Raptors

CENTRAL
Detroit Pistons
Indiana Pacers
Oklahoma City Thunder
Utah Jazz

SOUTH
Dallas Mavericks
Houston Rockets
Memphis Grizzlies
Miami Heat

WEST
*Las Vegas Basketball Team*
Los Angeles Clippers
Portland Trail Blazers
Sacramento Kings

National Conference
EAST
Brooklyn Nets
Charlotte Hornets
Philadelphia 76ers
Washington Wizards

CENTRAL
Chicago Bulls
Denver Nuggets
Milwaukee Bucks
Minnesota Timberwolves

SOUTH
Atlanta Hawks
New Orleans Pelicans
Orlando Magic
San Antonio Spurs

WEST
Golden State Warriors
Los Angeles Lakers
Phoenix Suns
*Seattle Supersonics*

...............

Do it like NBA used to do it, and how MLB and NFL do it, where divisions matter and division winner automatically gets a berth and Top 4 seed....

If you still want this play-in shyt like those leagues' wild card rounds, give the 5 and 6 seeds to the next best teams, then play-in for 7 and 8 (wild cards). But I'd just as soon go back to an 8-team format straight up, with next 4 seeds following the auto berths...

NBA is committed to an 82-game schedule, so you play the other 3 teams in your division 4x apiece (12 games)...

The other 12 teams in your conference, 3x apiece (36 games; + division makes it 48 games)...

Play all 16 teams from the other Conference 2x (32 games), that's an 80-game schedule there...

Obviously the wins and losses would look different this year if this were the actual set up, but just as a fan fic exercise, this year's seeding, based on right now, would be:

AMERICAN BASKETBALL CONFERENCE STANDINGS
1 Thunder (64-13)
2 Cavs (62-15)
3 Rockets (51-27)
4 Clips (46-32)
_______
5 Celtics (57-20)
6 Knicks (49-28)
.........
7 Pacers (46-31)
8 Grizz (46-32)
9 Pistons (43-35)
10 Mavs (38-41)
___________________
11 Kings (37-40)
12 Heat (35-43)
13 Blazers (34-44)
14 Raptors (28-50)
15 Jazz (16-62)
*16 LV team**

NATIONAL BASKETBALL CONFERENCE STANDINGS
1 Lakers (47-30)
2 Nuggets (47-31)
3 Magic (38-40)
4 Nets (25-52)
________
5 Dubs (46-31)
6 Wolves (46-32)
................
7 Bucks (43-34)
8 Hawks (36-41)
9 Bulls (35-42)
10 Suns (35-42)
________________
11 Spurs (32-45)
12 Sixers (23-55)
13 Pels (21-56)
14 Hornets (19-58)
15 Wizards (17-60)
*16 Sonics**

......................

Again obviously the wins and losses would look different in a set-up like this. The Cavs wouldn't just get to feast on the Sixers, Hornets, and Wizards, who they are a combined 10-0 this season. In this format, they'd only have 6 games total vs those 3 teams, while having to play teams like the Thunder and Rockets a combined 6x, who they are 1-3 vs this year...

It works like this in the perceived weaker conference too, Lakers could in theory feast on the weaker "East" squads but having to play the Bulls (0-2), Nuggets 2-2), Bucks (0-2), and Wolves (2-2) a combined 12x, which this year their records vs those teams is 4-8 as is, if they don't win their division, that becomes pertinent in intra-league standings...

If we did this we would have a thread saying american basketball execs tired of the national basketball conference being trash

 

[CrimsonTider]

Eventually the tide will turn when they keep getting the best picks

Y’all said this 20 years ago

 

[CrimsonTider]

Not sure if it was mentioned before but conferences and divisions are there so that the NBA can minimize travel and maximize the amount of games played while having the lowest cost of travel possible. Also, long travel can have impact on performance. So how do you distinguish between a schedule loss and a real loss if there's no conferences.

It’s obvious to every that the nba needs less games so

 

[FaTaL]

Y’all said this 20 years ago

even with incompetence these teams will eventually turn it around, look at detroit

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Nothing is wrong with the current setup. If you can't even get into the play in then you don't fukking matter

 

[tremonthustler1]

Thats actually a point in favor of 1-16. It wouldnt matter if all the good teams were in one conference.

I meant if they were mostly in the same time zone. If 6 of the 8 matchups had to start out west, that’s an issue.

 

[FTBS]

I meant if they were mostly in the same time zone. If 6 of the 8 matchups had to start out west, that’s an issue.

Thats tough .

1. How likely is that? While there is a gap...people do tend to overstate it.

2. And shyt a good chunk of "west" teams not in the pacific timezone.

Whats more important? Best teams and matchups or an occasional time zone issue?

 

[Oldschooler]

It’s obvious to every that the nba needs less games so

I don't disagree with this but it'll never happen because less games means less profits.

The product has become boring in my opinion. The league tried to white wash the game and make it super soft. They bowed down to the white liberal tears. Instead they should let physicality back in. You know a nikka hanging on the rim and screaming, slapping the back board, pointing a finger gun at their opponent and in general showing emotions actually made the game entertaining. It created physicality, fights and rivalry. Nowadays you can't sneeze without getting ejected.

 

[Red Money]

I’m not erasing anything. There has been one decade where the West has been clearly and significantly weaker than the East. We’re coming up on 3 in a row if the east doesn’t get it together in the second half of the 20s

That's why Kobe has the record for beating 50 win teams in playoffs. Deck got stacked against kobe post 99 lockout.

If Kobe was ready in 98 he could have taken an L against Jordan like on a Brady-MaHomes type of deal. Retrospect/hindsight...Kobe not making the 1998 finals saved him from the cloud Brady has on Mahomes.

 

[theflyest]

Not even sure if this is feasible, but I always preferred the college style schedule.

Start out with an out of conference/division schedule for the first few months, and then head into conference/divisional play.

 

[King Poetic]

How about find competent owners and management who can put quality teams on the floor

Keep the shyt the same