Welcome to Kirkwood - Official 2024 Atlanta Falcons Thread

[The ADD]

Based on where other players were graded it was a reach. Orhorohoro has all of the physical tools but he’s a project at this stage of his very young career, he’s only been playing football for like 5 years

Again graded relative to 3-4 scheme?

 

[#1 pick]

Based on where other players were graded it was a reach. Orhorohoro has all of the physical tools but he’s a project at this stage of his very young career, he’s only been playing football for like 5 years

He is a reach. He fits what they in terms of an Onyemata replacement in a couple of years but he's raw. Clear reach

 

[Sly Cookin]

This team was not a QB away last year, stop it

The Minnesota loss
The Arizona loss
The Washington loss
The Titans loss

Those losses werent on the QB. Those were games the defense blew because nobody could make a stop. The Falcons as an organization were 7-10, yes better QB play would’ve helped throughout the season but the defense was awful late in the season

If we had a competent QB we would've never been in those situations.

Look at how much we scored in those games. Don't leave out the point total if you gonna blame the defense.

You aren't trying to say rookie defender is the difference in those losses, right?

 

[BlackMajik]

Let's gooooooooooo

 

[AVXL]

Again graded relative to 3-4 scheme?

IDK relative to scheme, I’m just speaking to caliber of player based on overall grade

 

[AVXL]

If we had a competent QB we would've never been in those situations.

Look at how much we scored in those games. Don't leave out the point total if you gonna blame the defense.

You aren't trying to say rookie defender is the difference in those losses, right?

at this circular logic. The defense wasn’t good in the back half of the season or is that also the QBs fault?

 

[The ADD]

Respectfully you cant discount relative to scheme in this situation

IDK relative to scheme, I’m just speaking to caliber of player based on overall grade

 

[staticshock]

I don't see the issue with investing in our trenches. Raheem just came from a team where he had Aaron Donald. He knows the importance of a disruptive interior.

He also saw what happens when your QB goes down. Zac Robinson knows the importance.

This team was a QB away from the playoffs last year. We don't have nearly as many holes as some of y'all saying.

No holes offensively. Wr#2 not as important with pitts. CB #2 will be a vet or Clark Phillips who was solid.

Dallas Turner and latu would have been cool, but they aren't game changers imo.

You can never have enough QBs. I’d rather have Penix as insurance than whatever the fukk we had last season with Hieneke

 

[BlackMajik]

You can never have enough QBs. I’d rather have Penix as insurance than whatever the fukk we had last season with Hieneke

This team was one aggravated Achilles away from a disastrous season

 

[Roger king]

I dont want to get racial on this but this has some racial animus towards this convo, its how dare falcons draft that black qb and have the audacity not to give an injury prone qb in kirk cousins who has never won anything a silver platter and a cake walk to the starting qb job with 100 percent security, its the sheer arrogance , how dare a white qb be blindsided like other teams do players every single free draft and free agency

 

[staticshock]

I dont want to get racial on this but this has some racial animus towards this convo, its how dare falcons draft that black qb and have the audacity not to give an injury prone qb in kirk cousins who has never won anything a silver platter and a cake walk to the starting qb job with 100 percent security, its the sheer arrogance , how dare a white qb be blindsided like other teams do players every single free draft and free agency

This is Atlanta breh. I don’t think him being black has anything to do with it

 

[AVXL]

Respectfully you cant discount relative to scheme in this situation

Respectfully he wasn’t as highly a rated player of other players who were available at that time in the draft ie Texas defensive tackle T’Vondre Sweat (6.38, plus starter) and Illinois defensive tackle Jer’Zhan “Johnny” Newton (6.36, plus starter). Orhorhoro was listed as a 6.25 (average starter in the league).

I think you’re making too much of scheme but to each his own

 

[#1 pick]

This is Atlanta breh. I don’t think him being black has anything to do with it

To be frank, this might be one of those where it's those who like Penix v. those who just think he's talented. I've seen whites very high on this and some blacks, very down it on.

 

[#1 pick]

Respectfully he wasn’t as highly a rated player of other players who were available at that time in the draft ie Texas defensive tackle T’Vondre Sweat (6.38, plus starter) and Illinois defensive tackle Jer’Zhan “Johnny” Newton (6.36, plus starter). Orhorhoro was listed as a 6.25 (average starter in the league).

I think you’re making too much of scheme but to each his own

This ain't Madden, these coaches have a scheme and they have a style they play. At the end of the day, they reached on Ruke but if he's better than both in year 2 and moving forward, they made the right choice.

 

[The ADD]

Respectfully he wasn’t as highly a rated player of other players who were available at that time in the draft ie Texas defensive tackle T’Vondre Sweat (6.38, plus starter) and Illinois defensive tackle Jer’Zhan “Johnny” Newton (6.36, plus starter). Orhorhoro was listed as a 6.25 (average starter in the league).

I think you’re making too much of scheme but to each his own

Kind of proving my point Sweat is north of 350 so a true Nose with no flexibility to other positions. Newton by report didn’t have the flexibility to slide to DE. Three very different players