Weird how Pac is always accused of playing a character when Diddy literally invented Big's image. But its called genius instead :mjlol:

[I'm Blackman]

Pac been gone over 25 years now. Still got people mad.

 

[Jone2three45]

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[The Guru]

I remember seeing a clip of Big's mother reacting to the line "birthdays was the worst days"
Saying he was always well taken care of. I remember that stinging me to see this woman get discredited by her own son. He went to private schools i believe.
That;s why i never say i "came from nothing" I just didn't come from money. I had my family with all its ups and downs. The good and the bad. People worked and sacrificed for me.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

U have no idea what u talking about. nikka was a theater kid yet took theater for like a year out of his whole life? While living in the worst hoods in America I might add. nikka grew up in Harlem, Baltimore, and Bay Area in the 70s and 80s. U nikkas crazy.

Yeah and people run with the "He wanted to be a dancer" thing, but that was a mandatory course for drama students.It's prerequisite for physical acting.That would be like calling someone a body builder because they took a weight training class in high school.Blown way out of proportion.Pac was a charity case during his time at the Baltimore School For Performing Arts.His classmates used to donate him clothing.Jada Pinkett said the few times she visited Pac's residence back then, there would be no electricity, and he'd be having a bag of sunflower seeds for dinner.

 

[WaveGang]

pac said it an interview that he originally got signed because a record execs daughter was playing his music and her dad came in the room to say turn the music down but then thought it was fire, and wanted to sign him. Im sure someone will dig it out

Ur not a Pac Stan. The shyt u say is literally the opposite of even being a Pac fan. Whats industry plant about Pac? Do u know wtf an industry plant is? That nikka paid his dues on the road before he was signed.

Got the sword and shield out for pac lmaoo

 

[FeloniousMonk]

pac said it an interview that he originally got signed because a record execs daughter was playing his music and her dad came in the room to say turn the music down but then thought it was fire, and wanted to sign him. Im sure someone will dig it out


Got the sword and shield out for pac lmaoo

If Im not mistaken, that was Jimmy Iovine daughter via TNT records, Digital Undergrounds label.

 

[spliz]

pac said it an interview that he originally got signed because a record execs daughter was playing his music and her dad came in the room to say turn the music down but then thought it was fire, and wanted to sign him. Im sure someone will dig it out


Got the sword and shield out for pac lmaoo

So that means he's a plant? Do u know what an industry plant is? Serious question. U been saying wild ignorant shyt this whole thread my boy.

 

[WaveGang]

If Im not mistaken, that was Jimmy Iovine daughter via TNT records, Digital Undergrounds label.

This rings a bell, you know what interview it was?

That shyt sounded like an elaborate lie lmaoooo

 

[Ozymandeas]

U have no idea what u talking about. nikka was a theater kid yet took theater for like a year out of his whole life? While living in the worst hoods in America I might add. nikka grew up in Harlem, Baltimore, and Bay Area in the 70s and 80s. U nikkas crazy.

you can grow up in the middle of the hood but, if you took one art class, to The Coli, you a nerd

 

[Ozymandeas]

The theater kid shyt works on white people (see: Chappell Roan today) but it's hard to claim a black kid living in abject poverty who gets to attend art/theater school is faking it. I don't care if it's Pac or whichever black kid is going through it as we speak. Did theater help bring out his creative side more? Sure. Did it teach him certain things he applied to his craft in later years? Sure. But let's not act like Pac was some soft black guy from the suburbs with two parents, living in comfort and sent to the rich kid art school where he interacted with like minded kids. Nah. He was from the bottom. And I don't care about the dances or videos of him talking while there. Kids are always going to adapt to social environments. He was in a safe school with food lol, of course that nikka was happy as fukk.

Nikka was in Baltimore living in a bando with no food in the fridge and they acting like he was a privileged nepo baby

 

[Uitomy]

Fat cockeyed dude is a player his 1st Baby Momma looks like Lawrence Taylor

BARS nikka

 

[Piff Perkins]

Fat cockeyed dude is a player his 1st Baby Momma looks like Lawrence Taylor

We gonna be 60 years old still saying wild shyt like this about Pac/Big/Nas/Jay

 

[Ozymandeas]

I'm saying that people show different sides of who they are and what that they are into when hanging with different people. If we hanging out and you are one way with me then when someone else you know walks in and sees/hears you talking about shyt that they've never seen you do before, it's gonna be weird.

So him talkin about shyt with MJW that he never talked about or did with his hood nikkaz ain't some crazy reach. Changing up his tone and mannerisms when his hood nikkaz came through isn't something new either. Dude died at 25, didn't get a chance to fully mature and figure everything out. Know plenty of people who did similar shyt (act different ways with different people).

MJW may not have been one of his road dog nikkaz, but he obviously knew a lot more about other shyt that Pac was into than his hood homies. Even Marlon kinda aluded to it in his interviews involving Pac questions.

I think Pac grew up in an impoverished environment, with his mom and his relatives molding him to be proud, militant, and educated. I think he had a soft poetic side to him that we all saw through the music but, I think he also had a prideful side to him (which goes back to what I said above) that put him in hot situations because he wouldn't back down in situations when he should have. That's how he ended up having problems with Jimmy Henchmen and getting shot, having multiple altercations with the police and other people and eventually getting in too deep with Suge. Pac was just a hothead. But....the people he was rolling with were criminals and cold-blooded killers. Pac had no business being in that environment because his personality type meant he was gonna end up butting heads with the wrong person. As far as the people that knew Pac, I would say that they saw all the kinder qualities in him and knew he shouldn't have been running with that crowd. I just disagree with calling him soft. There are just levels. It would be like if Pac was born in this era, was from Chicago, and was running with nikkas from O Block. His friends would wonder why because they would see someone that was well-spoken and eloquent and knowledgable about alot of subjects and then see the crashouts he was around. And he would probably end up getting killed in that scenario too just like Von did. In short, Pac wasn't a punk. He just wasn't a cold-blooded killer. I guess Pac felt more comfortable around those types and thought he could help uplift them. In another universe, Pac just goes to school and becomes a lawyer.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

This rings a bell, you know what interview it was?

That shyt sounded like an elaborate lie lmaoooo

Actually. I used to work with ChopMaster J, the drummer from D.U. They where distributed by Interscope, formed in 1990

Pac been been with DU since 89'.

I cant recall that interview.

He told me this story back in 05'.

Theres many stories of artists being discovered via the demo bin.

This is just one.

Have many stories about Pac from him producing the strictly dope album in the Berkeley Hills, etc.

 

[kingofnyc]

Pac MADE the Notorious BIG without Pac Big would be another dusty new yorker

it’s more like the other way around … nobody really gave a fukk about your man - till he had so-call beef with u know who