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Swift gon surprise nikkas.
Swift gon surprise nikkas.
We the A side over here BUD... thank you Al Haymon... Danny Garcia v Errol Spence Fox PPV Dec 5th
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Damn this undercard is hot garbage. They really gonna keep pushing Josesito Lopez to feed him to a champion if he wins maybe 1 more fight after this 
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Breadman breaks down some points about the fight in his mailbag:
Bread’s Response: interesting…..You know I don’t like to jump to conclusions. Sometimes a fighter can be tired and dragging and sound sluggish. So I don’t want to go there. There will be a natural micromanagement of anything Errol does because of the accident. And I don’t want to do that.
My breakdown is this. I believe we can have two types of fights. One where Errol realizes that Danny can hurt him and decides to JUST win. He caught flack for his performance vs Mikey Garcia. Errol realized that Mikey couldn’t deal with a simple jab and step back move. He knew that Mikey was short and he needed to step in hard to land his shots and he just couldn’t cut the distance. Mikey is a guy who takes one step in order to get to the opponent and Errol created more space than Mikey could overcome. I was impressed with the performance but many wanted excitement. There is a difference between being impressive and being exciting. Errol has a much better JAB than Danny does. Danny has to find a way to neutralize Errol’s jab.
On the other hand Errol can be in his more natural mode of fighting downhill like he did vs Chris Algieri and Lamont Peterson. The problem with fighting like that is that gives Danny more of chance to win. Because Danny while not overly athletic does have one special gift. He can stand in the danger zone and punch exactly while his opponents are punching.
My gut tells me emotions will be running high and Errol will bring it. I also believe Danny will because if Danny wins this fight, he’s a HOF. I think Errol has the better jab. Danny sort of hooks around a jab. Errol keeps his hands in place and never bows his elbows. His punching technique is on point. But I actually think Danny can improvise a little quicker. I wouldn’t be surprised if Danny got the better of the hard exchanges even with Errol being more athletic.
From what I have seen Errol has better feet. He can use them to get in position better. Danny sort of uses his head dips to get into position to punch. Danny brings his head down and the opponent’s eyes follow his head and lose track of his LOOPING shots. They go about things total different.
Errol has shown a higher workrate. There have been times when Danny could have stepped on it in fights and he hasn’t. I don’t think it’s a lack of conditioning though. I think he likes to fight in a certain zone and he doesn’t come out of it. It’s just how he processes a fight and he stays WITHIN himself. It has cost him some close losses and controversial fights but that’s just who he is. It also allows him to CLIP people.
I think they both have solid chins. But I do think Errol his vulnerable to loopy shots. Errol kept complaining that Lamont Peterson was hitting him in the back of head. I couldn’t tell if they were fouls but Peterson was in front of him when they landed. I bring this up because most fighters have a vulnerable spot. They are human beings. Earlier in Errol’s career vs Emanuel Lartey, Errol was buzzed with a shot high on the head. I never forgot that and I believe Peterson knew that too that’s why he was looping his shots. Danny Garcia is the master of looping shots.
In the past because of how good of a counter puncher Danny is, no one ever went to his body consistently. Errol may be the best body puncher in boxing. I really wonder if he will go to Danny’s body.
I think both fighters have flaws that are the other’s strengths. I don’t have a pick just yet but I do think we will see a great fight and I wouldn’t be surprised if both guys were hurt or dropped. I expect intensity. Both have something to prove. Danny doesn’t want to lose to his 3 best opponents in his career. He’s prideful. Errol wants to prove he’s not only BACK but he’s the BEST. Pride is one HELLUVA motivation.
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Bread’s Response: interesting…..You know I don’t like to jump to conclusions. Sometimes a fighter can be tired and dragging and sound sluggish. So I don’t want to go there. There will be a natural micromanagement of anything Errol does because of the accident. And I don’t want to do that.
My breakdown is this. I believe we can have two types of fights. One where Errol realizes that Danny can hurt him and decides to JUST win. He caught flack for his performance vs Mikey Garcia. Errol realized that Mikey couldn’t deal with a simple jab and step back move. He knew that Mikey was short and he needed to step in hard to land his shots and he just couldn’t cut the distance. Mikey is a guy who takes one step in order to get to the opponent and Errol created more space than Mikey could overcome. I was impressed with the performance but many wanted excitement. There is a difference between being impressive and being exciting. Errol has a much better JAB than Danny does. Danny has to find a way to neutralize Errol’s jab.
On the other hand Errol can be in his more natural mode of fighting downhill like he did vs Chris Algieri and Lamont Peterson. The problem with fighting like that is that gives Danny more of chance to win. Because Danny while not overly athletic does have one special gift. He can stand in the danger zone and punch exactly while his opponents are punching.
My gut tells me emotions will be running high and Errol will bring it. I also believe Danny will because if Danny wins this fight, he’s a HOF. I think Errol has the better jab. Danny sort of hooks around a jab. Errol keeps his hands in place and never bows his elbows. His punching technique is on point. But I actually think Danny can improvise a little quicker. I wouldn’t be surprised if Danny got the better of the hard exchanges even with Errol being more athletic.
From what I have seen Errol has better feet. He can use them to get in position better. Danny sort of uses his head dips to get into position to punch. Danny brings his head down and the opponent’s eyes follow his head and lose track of his LOOPING shots. They go about things total different.
Errol has shown a higher workrate. There have been times when Danny could have stepped on it in fights and he hasn’t. I don’t think it’s a lack of conditioning though. I think he likes to fight in a certain zone and he doesn’t come out of it. It’s just how he processes a fight and he stays WITHIN himself. It has cost him some close losses and controversial fights but that’s just who he is. It also allows him to CLIP people.
I think they both have solid chins. But I do think Errol his vulnerable to loopy shots. Errol kept complaining that Lamont Peterson was hitting him in the back of head. I couldn’t tell if they were fouls but Peterson was in front of him when they landed. I bring this up because most fighters have a vulnerable spot. They are human beings. Earlier in Errol’s career vs Emanuel Lartey, Errol was buzzed with a shot high on the head. I never forgot that and I believe Peterson knew that too that’s why he was looping his shots. Danny Garcia is the master of looping shots.
In the past because of how good of a counter puncher Danny is, no one ever went to his body consistently. Errol may be the best body puncher in boxing. I really wonder if he will go to Danny’s body.
I think both fighters have flaws that are the other’s strengths. I don’t have a pick just yet but I do think we will see a great fight and I wouldn’t be surprised if both guys were hurt or dropped. I expect intensity. Both have something to prove. Danny doesn’t want to lose to his 3 best opponents in his career. He’s prideful. Errol wants to prove he’s not only BACK but he’s the BEST. Pride is one HELLUVA motivation.
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This is what I'm curious to see. I think it was @krackdagawd who said it. Body punchers are
more so than the headhunters. Spence's bodywork has been impressive. I love Keith Thurman, but we done seen him get hurt in the torso a few times. Errol easily stops Keith nowadays.
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This is what I'm curious to see. I think it was @krackdagawd who said it. Body punchers are
I think Thurman/Spence is still a 50-50 fight just off the styles & power of Thurman
We'll have a better idea of how Spence deals with a puncher who can hurt him next week lol
Thurman isn't easy for nobody but he would have to constantly move to try to take rounds.This is what I'm curious to see. I think it was @krackdagawd who said it. Body punchers are
cmon breh, whats with that poll 
i think its a great fight, Danny got a crazy chin
i think its a great fight, Danny got a crazy chin
This should be good, Spence not afraid to make his name for himself.
of course it would be the only interesting undercard fight that gets messed up
Julio Ceja (Illness) Out, New Foe Sought For Eduardo Ramirez On Spence-Garcia Undercard
By Jake Donovan
Published On Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:57 PM EST
The final boxing Pay-Per-View event of 2020 will now come with changes to the televised undercard.
Former featherweight Julio Ceja has been forced out of a December 5 PPV preliminary clash with countryman Eduardo Ramirez due to illness, multiple sources familiar with the situation have confirmed to BoxingScene.com.
The pair of Mexican featherweights were due to collide in supporting capacity to Errol Spence’s welterweight title defense versus Danny Garcia in the main event this Saturday at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. Sources inform BoxingScene.com that a new opponent is being sought for Ramirez (23-2-3, 10KOs), though not known as this goes to publish whether he will remain on the PPV portion.
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Ceja (32-4-1, 28KOs) has been training out of the Las Vegas gym of renowned cornerman Ismael Salas in preparation for his first fight in more than a year. Salas tested positive for COVID-19, which forced him out of the corner of heavyweight Joe Joyce in his 10th round stoppage of Daniel Dubois this past Saturday in England.
Concerns of a gym outbreak have since made its way to Ceja, who has also tested positive and has since experienced Covid-related symptoms which has forced him out of training and off of the show altogether.
The bout would have been the first for Ceja since a hard-fought 12-round draw with Brandon Figueroa last November at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. Ceja came in more than four pounds above the 122-pound junior featherweight limit for the fight, which was permitted to proceed but without Figueroa’s secondary title at stake in a supporting bout to then-heavyweight titlist Deontay Wilder’s repeat knockout win over Luis Oritz.
Ramirez also fought on that November 23 show, scoring a 4th round stoppage of unbeaten Leduan Barthelemy.
According to sources, the remaining three bouts on this weekend’s Fox Sports PPV will remain intact, with only Ramirez’s slot still in question.
In addition to Spence-Garcia will also come a welterweight scrap between veteran gatekeepers Josesito Lopez (37-8, 20KOs) and Francisco ‘Chia’ Santana (25-8-1, 12KOs). The evening’s chief support pits unbeaten 6’5½” junior middleweight contender Sebastian Fundora (15-0-1, 10KOs) versus Mexican trialhorse Jorge Cota (30-4, 27KOs) in a 12-round battle.