Watched this after years of not seeing it Saturday night...my boy TC was crushin the bldgs gettin caught up at the secret society......
We need a 2021 "Eyes wide Shut".....
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I love that movie, I only watched it once and was really late with it, at least 12 years after it's release…..I thought about watching it over Christmas as a holiday themed movie….probably my favorite Kubrick film.
We do.. now its called "True Detective". Its from a cop's perspective though
We need the missing reels.
And end up like Stanley Kubrick? 
He told too much and we all saw what happened to him. 
He told too much and we all saw what happened to him. 
As dude said above me
We all saw what the higher ups did to Kubrick... And he was already a legend
Let someone else do it and they done son
We all saw what the higher ups did to Kubrick... And he was already a legend
Let someone else do it and they done son
WaveCapsByOscorp™
2021 Grammy Award Winner
I totally forgot this was a Christmas movie, I need to add it to my list of Christmas movies next year...
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
Not on topic.watched it this past weekend
i still wonder how they knew he didnt fit in when he first walked in?
was it his costume, the color seemed off
the mask, nobody else had jewels on their mask
But should I post all the symbolism from this movie.
Dr. Narcisse
Veteran
Don't feel like posting it all. Just posting a few highlights from this article I read. shyt is deep
When entering the party, the first thing we see is this peculiar Christmas decoration. This eight-pointed star is found throughout the house. The star at Zeigler’s house is nearly identical to the ancient symbol of the star of Ishtar.
The Occult Elite
The occult ritual takes place at Somerton, in Long Island. The building used to film the outside scene is Mentmore Towers in UK.
The location selected to film the elite scenes is quite interesting. Mentmore Towers was built in the 19th century as a country house for a member of the most prominent and powerful elite family in the world: The Rothschilds. By selecting this location, was Kubrick trying to show his audience the “real world” equivalents to the ultra-elite shown in the movie? Incidentally, the name of Bill’s connection to the elite, Victor Ziegler, is of German-Jewish origin, like Rothschild.
It has been documented that the Rothschilds do actually partake in masked events very similar to those shown in Eyes Wide Shut. Here are rare images taken from a 1972 party given by Marie-Hélène de Rothschild.
Baroness Marie-Hélène de Rothschild and Baron Alexis de Redé at a 1972 party. Invitations were printed in reversed writing. One wonders if this party “degenerated” into something resembling what is shown in Eyes Wide Shut.
In the movie, when Bill enters the mansion, he mixes with a crowd of masked people silently watching the ritual. One of these people appear to instantly recognize Bill (or the fact that he doesn’t belong here).
A couple wearing Venetian masks (more specifically “female jester” and “bauta” masks) slowly turn towards Bill and nod in a very creepy matter. Is this Ziegler and his wife? Perhaps. Kubrick likes to keep things mysterious.
Venetian masks were originally worn during the Italian Renaissance in Venice and were a way for the powerful elite of the time to indulge in debauchery without reprisal.
“Though the precise origin of the mask-wearing tradition can’t be known for certain, the prevailing theory goes something like this: beginning in the Italian Renaissance, Venice was an extremely wealthy and powerful merchant empire. Its position on the Mediterranean sea opened it up to a myriad of trading opportunities across Europe, North Africa and Asia Minor, and its powerful navy allowed it to exert the military force necessary to defend its vast wealth. In a city-state so prosperous, it’s a small wonder that Venetian society was class-obsessed and rigidly stratified. One’s individual standing was immensely important for the perception of his or her entire family, and so naturally the pressure to act in accordance with the social morays governing one’s social standing was immense and stifling. The Venetians, the theory goes, adopted the practice of wearing masks and other disguises during the Carnival season as a way of suspending the rigid social order. Under the cloak of anonymity, the citizens of Venice could loosen their inhibitions without fear of reprisal. Masks gained so much popularity that the mascherari (mask makers) became a venerated guild in Venetian society. However, as word of the famed Venetian Carnival spread, more and more outsiders flocked to the city every year to take part in the festivities. The Carnival celebrations became increasingly chaotic and debaucherous as the years progressed until their decline in the 18th Century.”
– Geoffrey Stanton, Guide to Venetian Carnival Masks
Since then, Venetian masks have been used in elite circles and have somewhat become a symbol of its dark occult philosophy. Even The British Royal Family appears to enjoy the same type of masks and events.
That particular Royal event featured masked women who were as NOT dressed as those in the Eyes Wide Shut ritual.
Models at the party attended by the Royal Family.
Staring right at the camera (and at the movie viewers), the creepy masks are silent yet disturbing reminders showing the “true faces” of the elite. Note that the multi-faced mask on the left which is similar to the one worn at the Royal party above.
Here we see Nick Nightindale playing the song “Backwards Priest”, meaning that people in the ritual actually hear that music and that the whole thing is choreographed to it. Nightindale is blindfolded because the “profane” cannot witness the occult rituals of the elite.
The Hidden (And Not So Hidden) Messages in Stanley Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" (pt. I) - The Vigilant Citizen - Understand the Occult Symbolism in Pop Culture
Magic circles is concept used in ritual magic during invocations. The placement of the people in this scene recalls magic circles. Right: A magic circle as pictured in an ancient grimoire.
Cloaked in red, the High Priest sits on a throne which features a very important symbol: A double-headed eagle topped by a crown.
The double-headed eagle is one of the most ancient and prominent symbols of Freemasonry. A crowned double headed eagle is representative of the 33rd degree of Freemasonry, the highest degree attainable. Is Kubrick implying that the High Priest is a 33rd Degree Freemason?
I did read that site last night but how did they know in the beginning of the cult meeting that he didn't belong?Not on topic.
But should I post all the symbolism from this movie.
TrebleMan
Superstar
Dude pulled up in a taxi cab, plus his demeanor could have alerted the people running security that he was a little out of place.
Maybe the security was like
But when he walked into the cult gathering everybody knew he didn't belong. It was either his costume or mask. His mask was the only one with jewels on it