We Must Cancel Everyone’s Student Debt, for the Economy’s Sake

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The problem is the cost of education. But let's keep it a buck, when you decided to go to Duke for undergrad and NYU for a masters in social work you knew what the deal was when you took out those loans.


The school that gouged you already got paid and realistically any forgiveness you'd expect would be against the interest.

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The problem is the cost of education. But let's keep it a buck, when you decided to go to Duke for undergrad and NYU for a masters in social work you knew what the deal was when you took out those loans.


The school that gouged you already got paid and realistically any forgiveness you'd expect would be against the interest.

:yeshrug:

Tuition us going up beyond inflation.
 

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Colleges overcharge because of high demand. Its greed and using excess profits to build dorms and useless centers that remain half empty.
This seems mostly false. Colleges generally place hard caps on their admissions and then provide services that allow them to attract the best talent -- not the other way around.

This is important because it allows them to generate other revenue streems in addition to prestige.

For public schools you can largely attribute the increase in price to the state budget cuts providing less funds to subsidize the cost of educator.

Since schools must compete for talent all the same they pass the money onto the students. Since it is easy to get loans schools aren't restricted on raising tuition since it's almost impossible to price out their students.

Private schools have another source of issues, but generally I'd say too small endowments and over ambitious growth plans and the desire to compete lead them to these grossly inflated fees for an inadequate ROI for their students.


For perspective, kids leaving Georgetown and grabbing a job paying 250k coming out aren't as concerned. Similarly schools with large endowments are able to subsidize these high tuitions.

As I said in the HBCU thread, some of these private schools need to fail, their needs to be stronger regulations on the amount of debt schools accrue, and for public universities there needs to be more oversight and hard caps on how much students are required to pay for the upkeep of the university.

More employers should invest in their workers education since they require people to find this debt in the first place.

A more radical thought is that degrees in programs that don't offer much pay shouldn't cost as much as those that do. An obvious downside their is how many people don't work in their fields if study and this creates another pay wall.
 

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sho would be nice. that would be some where around an extra 600 or so a month in my households pockets. You think i wouldnt do something with that kind of extra cashflow? of course I would. but they dont really want to stimulate the economy the right way. they rather give it all to the ballers class.
 

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We can't cancel student debt without addressing the causes for the meteoric spikes in tuition costs. These colleges are robbing us blind. Writing off all student debt and making public education "free" would not address that
stop saying this. you can do both at the same time.

thats that "we can't pay out reparations to black folks because we dont know how blah blah blah." stop it. get it started first. and we can do the clean up and tightening up later.
 

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Yea. Had Obama or Trump have been able to convince Congress to move this forward it have a monumental impact on the economy more so than any tax return could have and the money saved would have circulated back to the economy itself. The bubble is on the verge of bursting and it will damn near ruin us.
 

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sho would be nice. that would be some where around an extra 600 or so a month in my households pockets. You think i wouldnt do something with that kind of extra cashflow? of course I would. but they dont really want to stimulate the economy the right way. they rather give it all to the ballers class.

B b bu but the price is high because if quality.
 

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Colleges overcharge because of high demand. Its greed and using excess profits to build dorms and useless centers that remain half empty.
And since everyone's keeping it 100 in here..the high demand is driven by the ease of access to these loans. Sally Mae will hand $50K over to anyone with a GED and a pulse. Universities know it and increase tuition in tandem. That's textbook racketeering.

The best long term solution is to make stronger incentives to utilize community colleges and trade schools..they're both way cheaper and in a better market would siphon students from Universities. From there, the free market kicks in and Universities would lower tuition to attract more students from CCs and trade schools.
 
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