"We can't prove sex with children does them harm" (Article)

[valet]

Give it 40 years. http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/46...ildren-does-them-harm-says-Labour-linked-NCCL

PIE members were lobbying NCCL officials for the age of consent to be reduced and campaigning for “paedophile love”.

Their view that children were not harmed by having sex with adults appears to have been adopted by those at the top of the civil liberties group.

Today we publish extracts from an NCCL report written for the Criminal Law Revision Committee in 1976 when Mrs Hewitt was general secretary.

It says: “Where both partners are aged 10 or over, but under 14, a consenting sexual act should not be an offence. As the age of consent is arbitrary, we propose an overlap of two years on either side of 14.

“Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage.

“The Criminal Law Commission should be prepared to accept the evidence from follow-up research on child ‘victims’ which show there is little subsequent effect after a child has been ‘molested’.

“The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage.

“The present legal penalties are too high and reinforce the misinformation and prejudice. The duty of the court should be to inquire into all the relevant circumstances with the intention, not of meting out severe punishment, but of determining the best solution in the interests of both child and paedophile.”

Mrs Hewitt, 65, was general secretary between 1974 and 1983. After days of intense pressure, the former Labour MP for Leicester West finally admitted last week the NCCL was “naive and wrong” over its ties to PIE.

Where both partners are aged 10 or over, but under 14, a consenting sexual act should not be an offence

The NCCL Report

She said: “Any suggestion that I supported or condoned the vile crimes of child abusers is completely untrue.

“As the NCCL archives demonstrate, I consistently distinguished between consenting relationships between homosexual men, on the one hand, and the abuse of children on the other.

“When Jack Dromey, as NCCL chairman in 1976, vigorously opposed PIE at the NCCL AGM, he did so with the full support of the executive committee and myself as general secretary.”

However Labour MP Dromey’s opposition to PIE has been questioned by its former chairman, convicted paedophile Tom O’Carroll, who claims he felt “welcome” at NCCL meetings where he sat on the gay rights sub-committee.

Mr O’Carroll said: “While they did not like PIE and did nothing to support our objectives, they were afraid of appearing insufficiently ‘right on’.

“Consequently they were nothing like as strenuous and public in their efforts to distance themselves from PIE as they are now claiming.

“Dromey is quoted as saying ‘I was at the forefront of repeated public condemnations of PIE and their despicable views’. That’s news to me. Maybe by ‘public’ he meant imprecations muttered to cronies at his local pub.”

Dromey’s wife Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour party, was legal officer at the NCCL between 1978 and 1982. She has expressed her “regret” over the NCCL’s involvement with PIE but has pointedly declined to apologise.

 

[88m3]

post absurd articles about how having sex with children doesn't harm them and pose it as a conspiracy, brehs

 

[Ricky Church]

 

[Nintendough]

@Dooby is excited as fukk right now.

 

[Matt504]

you'll laugh now, but in 10 years pedophiles will be celebrated in America and no longer demonized.

the pedophile movement has been piggybacking off the gay movement since the early 80's.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

post absurd articles about how having sex with children doesn't harm them and pose it as a conspiracy, brehs

/thread

 

[stealthbomber]

second time in 2 days ive come in HL and the top post makes me cringe

 

[Serious]

 

[DEAD7]

Gay rights are not a slippery slope they said...

 

[Dooby]

Kids are having sex, though. I remember when I was in the 6th grade and I was hearing of kids having sex with eachother. When I was in the 8th, kids were without a doubt humping. Does this do any kind of psychological damage? If you say yes, I ask why?

The reason it would be considered damaging is because of the societal backlash received from having sex at a young age.

If I traveled to the UK I could have sex with a 16 girl legally.

If I traveled to the Netherlands I could bed a 14 year old legally.

So what exactly IS the problem? I'm curious. These Netherland children must be growing up all kinds of screwed up. Do tell me about it. :willywonka:

 

[The Real]

Gay rights are not a slippery slope they said...

They're not. These people have been campaigning since the 60s. Nobody cares. Also, both gay rights and pedo rights can be traced back to the Civil Rights movement- if there was a slippery slope, that's where it started.

 

[Crakface]

Gay rights at work. They coming for them little boys next, but we all know thats what this was always about.

 

[Crakface]

Kids are having sex, though. I remember when I was in the 6th grade and I was hearing of kids having sex with eachother. When I was in the 8th, kids were without a doubt humping. Does this do any kind of psychological damage? If you say yes, I ask why?

The reason it would be considered damaging is because of the societal backlash received from having sex at a young age.

If I traveled to the UK I could have sex with a 16 girl legally.

If I traveled to the Netherlands I could bed a 14 year old legally.

So what exactly IS the problem? I'm curious. These Netherland children must be growing up all kinds of screwed up. Do tell me about it. :willywonka:

Do you have any family members who have been sexually abused? They arent like other kids.

Or would you say, that they're different *in many cases violent* because society makes them be in the closet.

Like gays. I might have to ice one of you nikkas if this shyt ever becomes acceptable.

 

[Dooby]

Do you have any family members who have been sexually abused? They arent like other kids.

Or would you say, that they're different *in many cases violent* because society makes them be in the closet.

Like gays. I might have to ice one of you nikkas if this shyt ever becomes acceptable.

Haha I love girls my age and I also in older women. But it's just funny how I could go to a different country and not seen as a complete disgusting sicko by having sex with a 14 yr old like I would here. It's stupid, really.

Just goes to show there is no objective morality. Quit being huge sensitive fakkits.

 

[Crakface]

Haha I love girls my age and I also in older women. But it's just funny how I could go to a different country and not seen as a complete disgusting sicko by having sex with a 14 yr old like I would here. It's stupid, really.

Just goes to show there is no objective morality. Quit being huge sensitive fakkits.

Well yea because you're surrounded by sickos.