We are a fully operational dollar store:The 2019 New York Yankees Season Thread

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When is Severino and Montgomery due back????? I know that there should be low expectations for both coming back, but it is some help. I'm hoping we're not falling back on their return. I mean, if Deivi Garcia keeps it up, why not give him a shot as well???

Unfortunately, there just aren't many options for top 3 pitchers on the market this season. I have no idea why Cashman didn't just get Keuschel for the cash when we had the chance.

Now, I'd give up a combination of Frazier, Bird, Andujar, Abreu, Florial, Cessa, Adams and/or Wade to bring back a top 3 pitcher, and it will take something like that to get it done. All of those dudes are now expendable, as we've seen this season. If I'm Cashman and the opportunity to get that top 3 starter is on the table, I'd do it and won't think twice about it. We are that close to competing with Houston, the Dodgers and the Braves for the World Series.

Stroman has been good this year. He is that number 3 starter that is worth trading for. Who knows what Severino or Montgomery willl be like when they get back and Delvi Garcia is going to be close to a pitching limit and won't be used by us in any significant way.
 

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What I truly hope happens is that if we get another arm, that they continue the opener stuff, but with CC having that role Nestor Cortes or Luis Cessa has. CC can't start games anymore. He's a long relief man at this point and if they get another guy, his spot has to be the one that gets taken and he has to understand that. At least with other mediocre pitchers, even if they pitch mediocre they can give you innings. CC doesn't do that. If CC was giving you 6-7 innings of what he does you could live with it, but 6 innings for him might as well count as a complete game shutout.


and don't look now, but we might need Stanton back because Gary has been terrible for a good 4-5 weeks now.
 

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No, he's pitched okay this season. Nothing against Stroman, but I'd "prefer" dealing Frazier out of the division.

The potentially available SP options this trade deadline is really slim. I'm not against it, but would prefer shooting for the moon (a true #1 or #2 like Scherzer, Ray, Greinke's fickle spirit) before having to settle on Stroman.

The AL East this year, isn't what it normally is. TB and Baltimore don't score runs. Stroman's best month was in April against the likes of Oak2x, Cleveland (who need offense), Baltimore and TB. May & June were middle of the road against better teams. He's started off July pretty good so far.

If he's the option, I'd have to roll with it, but I don't think he's THE key WS title piece. Of course, he'd help, as we are hanging on by a string in the rotation.
Not that Scherzer was ever realistic, but he's not gonna get dealt off a team in the wild card hunt in good shape.

Realistically, the Yankees will probably land Ray or Stroman (I'd rather deal Frazier in a Ray package than for Stroman because I don't need Frazier kicking our asses for the next decade with Vlad, Biggio and Bichette.


I think so many people have already forgotten that the Red Sox won due in part because Nate Eovaldi pitched out of his mind. Yes they had an ace in the playoffs they could trust. They also finally got Price to get right. The Yankees have to hope that Paxton or whoever else they acquire becomes that guy in the playoffs and we won't know that til October which is scary.
 

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Not that Scherzer was ever realistic, but he's not gonna get dealt off a team in the wild card hunt in good shape.

Realistically, the Yankees will probably land Ray or Stroman (I'd rather deal Frazier in a Ray package than for Stroman because I don't need Frazier kicking our asses for the next decade with Vlad, Biggio and Bichette.


I think so many people have already forgotten that the Red Sox won due in part because Nate Eovaldi pitched out of his mind. Yes they had an ace in the playoffs they could trust. They also finally got Price to get right. The Yankees have to hope that Paxton or whoever else they acquire becomes that guy in the playoffs and we won't know that til October which is scary.

That’s actually my fear with trading Frazier there. I think he’ll have a pretty decent career somewhere. Just don’t want to be reminded that we once had him, as he’ll certainly go elsewhere and get right, then torment us for the next 10 years.

And yeah, Scherzer really isn’t available, and definitely not with them in the WC race, but Cashman should just ask. Same with Ray and Arizona. Pipe dreams, but you gotta check in.
 

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Yeah I'd prefer not to trade Frazier within the division. Dude is gonna bat Barry Bonds numbers against us with how much he will hate us.
 

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Stroman has been good this year. He is that number 3 starter that is worth trading for. Who knows what Severino or Montgomery willl be like when they get back and Delvi Garcia is going to be close to a pitching limit and won't be used by us in any significant way.

If Stroman is what we get, I’d be fine with it. We need quality SP in the worse way. I would prefer someone more dominant and definitive if the options become available, and especially if Frazier’s a part of that package.
 

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I'm not high on Ray at all. Way too many walks and HR's from him. He'd just be a younger version of Happ and CC pitching in Yankee Stadium.
 

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If Stroman is what we get, I’d be fine with it. We need quality SP in the worse way. I would prefer someone more dominant and definitive if the options become available, and especially if Frazier’s a part of that package.

The options just aren't great. Ace's are gonna be worth more than any assets we have and there are only mid level starters who are overpriced due to the shyttyness of the NL. We just gotta roll with that because we're in a tough spot due to the cheapness of the FO. Could have had Patrick Corbin, nope. Could have had Keuchel, nope. The FO has blame for this one.
 

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Just ran across this, as we've been discussing, and figured I'd share. Just the SP options that might be available at the trade deadline.

Report: Yankees 'guaranteed' to land top starter

"With Paxton's inconsistent performances of late paired with the duration of Luis Severino's recovery, the Yankees appear destined to acquire someone that can help solidify the top of the rotation.

Bowden suggests it will be one of the big-name targets.

"The one guarantee I'll make is that the Yankees will get another starting pitcher, and you don't have to put that in pencil, pen or Sharpie … just put it in cement," Bowden expressed.

"I don't know which one of Bauer, Syndergaard, Stroman, Minor, Boyd or Bumgarner they will end up with - but they're getting someone. Book it."

Here's how each of those arms has performed so far in 2019:

Trevor Bauer - Cleveland Indians (28 years old)
22 G, W-L: 9-7, 3.67 ERA, 144.2 IP, 170 K/56 BB, 1.182 WHIP, 1.4 HR/9

Noah Syndergaard - New York Mets (26 years old)
19 G, W-L: 7-4, 4.36 ERA, 119.2 IP, 118 K/31 BB, 1.228 WHIP, 1.1 HR/9

Marcus Stroman - Toronto Blue Jays (28 years old)
20 G, W-L: 6-10, 3.06 ERA, 117.2 IP, 93 K/34 BB, 1.249 WHIP, 0.8 HR/9

Mike Minor - Texas Rangers (31 years old)
20 G, W-L: 8-5, 2.86 ERA, 129.0 IP, 131 K/45 BB, 1.163 WHIP, 1.2 HR/9

Matthew Boyd - Detroit Tigers (28 years old)
20 G, W-L: 6-8, 4.13 ERA, 120.0 IP, 160 K/24 BB, 1.133 WHIP, 1.6 HR/9

Madison Bumgarner - San Francisco Giants (29 years old)
21 G, W-L: 5-7, 3.65 ERA, 125.2 IP, 127 K/26 BB, 1.178 WHIP, 1.2 HR/9

Some around baseball expect teams to wait until the later stages of the process to make any big moves by this year's deadline, which will mark the last opportunity for clubs to acquire talent. The previously established system of August trade waivers has been eliminated."
 

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He has the Yankees on his no-trade list so I don't think that one is happening.

Yeah I just read that on MLB.com

And now the Jay's want a Chris Archer like trade for Stroman. :snoop:

At this rate they are going to get no one. :francis:

Only chance may be Ray and lords know I want no parts of that fukker.
 

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No idea what we do, at this stage. But well definitely need better quality SP. Hopefully, we don't nickle-and-dime our way into not getting anything.
 

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I'd see if we could do a straight up trade of Wheeler for Frazier and a few pieces not named Garcia but the Mets always have to be in grudge mode when dealing with the Yankees.
 

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Both pitchers tonight look like they want nothing to do with either teams lineups.
 
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