Washington Post: Red states gives more to charity than blue states

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Richest states
The District of Columbia and New Jersey were tied for first place in the 2014 richest state rankings. DC was 6th in income and first in GDP and taxes paid per capita. New Jersey was 3rd in income, 9th in GDP and 5th in taxes paid. Connecticut and Maryland were tied for third place on richest states list. Connecticut was 5th in income, 5th in GDP and 4th in taxes paid. Maryland was 1st in income, 11th in GDP and 14th in taxes paid.

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Poorest states
Mississippi was hands down the poorest state in 2014. The Magnolia State came in a rock-bottom 51st in all categories. West Virginia was the second poorest state at 50th on the list. The Mountain State was ranked 49th in income, 48th in GDP and 50th in taxes paid. Alabama was ranked 49th on the list; 48th in come, 47th in GDP and 47th in taxes paid.

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The five wealthiest states in the U.S. are:
  1. Maryland. Maryland’s median household income of $72,483 was more than $20,000 above the national median income. The Free State also has the third lowest poverty rate in the country at just more than 10 percent.
  2. Alaska. Alaskans enjoy a high median household income of $72,237, and just 9 percent of its residents live in poverty, the second lowest in the nation.
  3. New Jersey. A median household income of $70,165, plus “nearly 10 percent of households had incomes of $200,000 or more, the highest rate in the country,” helped push New Jersey to the third wealthiest state in the U.S., 24/7 Wall St. said.
  4. Hawaii. “In addition to paradisal scenery and tropical weather, Hawaii residents are also among the nation’s wealthiest,” 24/7 Wall St. said. Hawaiians enjoy a median household income of $68,020.
  5. Connecticut. It’s described as one of the richest and most unequal states. “A typical household earned roughly $67,000 last year and nearly 1 in 10 earned more than $200,000 in 2013, second only to New Jersey,” 24/7 Wall St. said.
Things don’t look nearly as rosy in the South, home to the five poorest states in America.

  1. Mississippi. Mississippi has the lowest median household income at $37,963 and the highest percentage (24 percent) of people living below the poverty line. At $72,483, Maryland’s median household income is nearly double that of Mississippi.
  2. Arkansas. With a median household income of $40,511, weak job market, high poverty rate and low real estate values, Arkansas is the second poorest state in the U.S.
  3. West Virginia. The median household income is $41,253, which likely affects the housing market in West Virginia. “The median home value was only $103,200 in 2013, lower than all but one other state,” 24/7 Wall St. said.
  4. Alabama. The Cotton State has a median household income of $42,849, and nearly 19 percent of residents live below the poverty line.
  5. Kentucky. The median income in the Bluegrass State was just $43,399 last year, compared with the national median of $52,250. Kentucky also has low home values, high unemployment and a high poverty rate.
http://wallethub.com/edu/richest-and-poorest-states/7392/


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How the GOP is Winning Among the Poor (white)

Among the far-right entertainer class, 2012 was defined as the “takers versus makers” election. According to that narrative, Romney lost because the grasping poor wanted a President who would promise them “free stuff” instead of opening up opportunities to succeed through hard work. Minority voters supposedly chose Obama by spectacular margins because, well…you know what those people are like.

The results tell a very different story. Obama performed well in many of America’s wealthiest areas, including places that have been Republican strongholds for generations. Romney, on the other hand, racked up lopsided wins won in some of the country’s poorest counties. A closer look at Romney’s success among the poor reveals a disturbing picture of the forces overwhelming the Republican Party in our time.

Brian Kelsey at Civic Analytics in Austin did an excellent analysis of voting patterns in the most government dependent counties in the US. He used data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis to gather a list of counties whose residents are most dependent on government aid in the form of food stamps, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, and other “welfare” programs.

Strangely, Kelsey discovered that Romney won 21 of the 25 most welfare-dependent counties in the country. The pattern Kelsey found extends beyond his limited data set. Romney won some of his most overwhelming support in the 2012 election from America’s most “dependent” regions, carrying 77 of America’s 100 most welfare-dependent counties.

It turns out that America’s most aid-dependent counties share some other characteristics that might explain their voting patterns. They are overwhelmingly white, southern, and rural. In fact, 86 of them are in areas that did not outlaw slavery prior to the Civil War and 81 of them are majority white.

Romney lost only four of those 81. Three of those four are in the North. He lost only one county on that list which was white and Southern (Elliot, KY), and he lost there by 60 votes.

Another surprising pattern emerges from the analysis – the stark racial divide between the poorest Americans, and those who receive the most poverty relief. In an interesting irony, the list of most dependent counties does not line up with the list of poorest counties. The counties which receive the highest levels of welfare assistance are disproportionately white; while most of America’s poorest counties are majority-minority.

Though African-Americans and Hispanics suffer far higher poverty rates, they receive far less proportionately in government transfers. Poor whites receive government assistance at a far higher rate than poor non-whites. In other words, even in poverty, it pays to be white.

On the other end of the spectrum, Obama won half of the nation’s fifty wealthiest counties. He lost all of the counties on the 50 wealthiest list which are located in the South (if you exclude Virginia’s DC suburbs – not exactly the heart of Dixie).

This reflects a pattern seen across the country in the 2012 results. The Republican ticket saw its greatest success based not on wealth or welfare, but on three, ranked criteria:

1) Region – The single highest indicator of success for the GOP ticket regional. Republicans won reliably in sections of the country in which slavery was legal until Lincoln’s election.

2) Urbanity – The lower the population density, the more successful the GOP ticket.

3) Race – Romney performed best among white voters, particularly older white voters.

Where factors were at tension with one another, as in Harris County (Houston), the outcome was muddled. Houston is Southern, urban, and ethnically diverse. Obama scored a narrow win there, also winning Texas’ other big cities by modest margins.

In rural, Southern, majority-white counties, Romney racked up margins sometimes topping 90%. Apart from those three criteria, outcomes appear to be almost completely unaffected by poverty rates, welfare, food stamps, or any other socio-economic factors.

The “takers” narrative is not born out anywhere in the election results. Like voter fraud and un-skewed polls, it’s one of those ironclad facts of life that somehow only exist inside the magical world of rightwing media. Were those desperately poor white voters in counties across Kentucky and Tennessee choosing Romney in order to end their own “dependency,” or did some other factor inspire their passionate support of the GOP ticket?

The racial and regional character of the 2012 election and every subsequent political fight is ominous. It helps explain why political compromise has come to be equated with betrayal and why so-called “patriots” are willing to bring the country to its knees just to take rhetorical swipes at this Administration.

This approach to politics is not just failing the GOP at a national level. It is placing the party at odds with the country’s future direction. By playing on latent racial tensions, the party is fostering a degree of bitterness that will be difficult to diffuse and may have dangerous implications down the line.

http://blog.chron.com/goplifer/2013/09/how-the-gop-is-winning-among-the-poor/
It's funny how republicans always ignore that the biggest welfare-dependent region in the country is lily white, dirt poor, alcohol/meth infested APPALACHIA.
Paul Ryan never mentions them when he pontificates about the "culture of poverty" :mjpls:
 
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It's funny how republicans always ignore that the biggest welfare-dependent region in the country is lily white, dirt poor, alcohol/meth infested APPALACHIA.
Paul Ryan never mentions them when he pontificates about the "culture of poverty" :mjpls:
The "takers vs makers line" and the concept of "trickle down economics" are two of the greatest propaganda tricks in history. Along with "lowering taxes", which the average apolitical person will assume means "great, lower taxes for me!", as opposed to "more tax breaks for the rich and corporations, which directly corresponds to LESS initiatives for the poor and middle class, less invested in education, less invested in infrastructure, and less invested in science".
 

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... the debate quality in this thread is around this level...
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Left wingers are usually not very good debaters because they aren't used to having their viewpoints challenged.

For God's sake, I made a post about conservatives being more charitable than liberals and people have responded with posts about obesity, life expectancy, tax cuts, and pedophiles. WTF?!?!?!?!
 
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Call out these liberals by name. Otherwise this sounds like a pretty gnarly strawman to me


Honestly, the most recent example has to be Joe Biden. This was downright embarrassing when it came out a few years back.



http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-12-biden-financial_N.htm

Biden gave average of $369 to charity a year

Updated 9/12/2008 5:57 PM

By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY


WASHINGTON — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and his wife gave an average of $369 a year to charity during the past decade, his tax records show.
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's campaign today released 10 years' worth of tax returns for Biden, a senator from Delaware, and his wife Jill, a community college instructor. The Bidens reported earning $319,853 last year, including $71,000 in royalties for his memoir, Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics.

The Bidens reported giving $995 in charitable donations last year — about 0.3% of their income and the highest amount in the past decade. The low was $120 in 1999, about 0.1% of yearly income. Over the decade, the Bidens reported a total of $3,690 in charitable donations, or 0.2% of their income.
 

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Honestly, the most recent example has to be Joe Biden. This was downright embarrassing when it came out a few years back.



http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-12-biden-financial_N.htm

Biden gave average of $369 to charity a year

Updated 9/12/2008 5:57 PM

By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY


WASHINGTON — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and his wife gave an average of $369 a year to charity during the past decade, his tax records show.
Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's campaign today released 10 years' worth of tax returns for Biden, a senator from Delaware, and his wife Jill, a community college instructor. The Bidens reported earning $319,853 last year, including $71,000 in royalties for his memoir, Promises to Keep: On Life and Politics.

The Bidens reported giving $995 in charitable donations last year — about 0.3% of their income and the highest amount in the past decade. The low was $120 in 1999, about 0.1% of yearly income. Over the decade, the Bidens reported a total of $3,690 in charitable donations, or 0.2% of their income.
The way you were talking, I thought this was a common prevalent thing, not 1 quote from 6 years ago. I wonder if you utilize this level of scrutiny with the right.......
 

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The way you were talking, I thought this was a common prevalent thing, not 1 quote from 6 years ago. I wonder if you utilize this level of scrutiny with the right.......

According to an article in the New York Times, conservatives give more money to charity, do more volunteer work, and donate more blood than liberals. Even if you take out money donated to churches, conservatives still donate a higher percentage of their income to SECULAR charities.

Do liberals just not care about helping people that are downtrodden? I just don't understand how they can be so heartless.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/opinion/21kristof.html?_r=0



Bleeding Heart Tightwads

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: December 20, 2008

This holiday season is a time to examine who’s been naughty and who’s been nice, but I’m unhappy with my findings. The problem is this: We liberals are personally stingy.

Liberals show tremendous compassion in pushing for generous government spending to help the neediest people at home and abroad. Yet when it comes to individual contributions to charitable causes, liberals are cheapskates. Arthur Brooks, the author of a book on donors to charity, “Who Really Cares,” cites data that households headed by conservatives give 30 percent more to charity than households headed by liberals. A study by Google found an even greater disproportion: average annual contributions reported by conservatives were almost double those of liberals.

Other research has reached similar conclusions. The “generosity index” from the Catalogue for Philanthropy typically finds that red states are the most likely to give to nonprofits, while Northeastern states are least likely to do so.

The upshot is that Democrats, who speak passionately about the hungry and homeless, personally fork over less money to charity than Republicans — the ones who try to cut health insurance for children.

“When I started doing research on charity,” Mr. Brooks wrote, “I expected to find that political liberals — who, I believed, genuinely cared more about others than conservatives did — would turn out to be the most privately charitable people. So when my early findings led me to the opposite conclusion, I assumed I had made some sort of technical error. I re-ran analyses. I got new data. Nothing worked. In the end, I had no option but to change my views.”

Something similar is true internationally. European countries seem to show more compassion than America in providing safety nets for the poor, and they give far more humanitarian foreign aid per capita than the United States does. But as individuals, Europeans are far less charitable than Americans.
Americans give sums to charity equivalent to 1.67 percent of G.N.P., according to a terrific new book, “Philanthrocapitalism,” by Matthew Bishop and Michael Green. The British are second, with 0.73 percent, while the stingiest people on the list are the French, at 0.14 percent.
(Looking away from politics, there’s evidence that one of the most generous groups in America is gays. Researchers believe that is because they are less likely to have rapacious heirs pushing to keep wealth in the family.)

When liberals see the data on giving, they tend to protest that conservatives look good only because they shower dollars on churches — that a fair amount of that money isn’t helping the poor, but simply constructing lavish spires. It’s true that religion is the essential reason conservatives give more, and religious liberals are as generous as religious conservatives. Among the stingiest of the stingy are secular conservatives.

According to Google’s figures, if donations to all religious organizations are excluded, liberals give slightly more to charity than conservatives do. But Mr. Brooks says that if measuring by the percentage of income given, conservatives are more generous than liberals even to secular causes. In any case, if conservative donations often end up building extravagant churches, liberal donations frequently sustain art museums, symphonies, schools and universities that cater to the well-off. (It’s great to support the arts and education, but they’re not the same as charity for the needy. And some research suggests that donations to education actually increase inequality because they go mostly to elite institutions attended by the wealthy.)

Conservatives also appear to be more generous than liberals in nonfinancial ways. People in red states are considerably more likely to volunteer for good causes, and conservatives give blood more often. If liberals and moderates gave blood as often as conservatives, Mr. Brooks said, the American blood supply would increase by 45 percent.
So, you’ve guessed it! This column is a transparent attempt this holiday season to shame liberals into being more charitable. Since I often scold Republicans for being callous in their policies toward the needy, it seems only fair to reproach Democrats for being cheap in their private donations. What I want for Christmas is a healthy competition between left and right to see who actually does more for the neediest.

Of course, given the economic pinch these days, charity isn’t on the top of anyone’s agenda. Yet the financial ability to contribute to charity, and the willingness to do so, are strikingly unrelated. Amazingly, the working poor, who have the least resources, somehow manage to be more generous as a percentage of income than the middle class.
So, even in tough times, there are ways to help. Come on liberals, redeem yourselves, and put your wallets where your hearts are.
 

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According to an article in the New York Times, conservatives give more money to charity, do more volunteer work, and donate more blood than liberals. Even if you take out money donated to churches, conservatives still donate a higher percentage of their income to SECULAR charities.

Do liberals just not care about helping people that are downtrodden? I just don't understand how they can be so heartless.
This strawman is pathetic, even for you.
 
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