Was Vader crazy to think he and Luke could take on Palpatine?

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Well he did eat some of his own Force Lightning and fell into a reactor core but yeah that was still a bit weak on the writing tip
How do you eat your own force lightning. That ending was shyt and inexcusable. Just shows how flabby and Sick Vader really was. Got a taste of some lightning and died. Luke was eating that shyt like scooby snacks. The emperor on the other hand... Cant these nikkas float to the ground or some shyt? Ending was trash.
 

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Even in the movies when someone got hit you with Force Lightning you was fukked up Luke took multiple bursts of Sidious lightning and was still able to function almost immediately after. In a very short period of time with
little training from Yoda and Obi Won he was able to give Vader that work with the lightsaber. :banderas:



Yeah Luke becomes the fukkin man in the books. Like he was pulling star destroyers outta orbit :wow:




I copied this list from another site but this is just a peak at his skills.

Shatterpoint- were a complex Force phenomenon, perceivable only by an unknown innate talent or immense focus and concentration on the part of the Force-user. Shatterpoints were akin to fault lines; similar to different pathways of actions. Adept Force-users were able to perceive these faults through the Force, and influence them.

Force Speed The Grand Master was frighteningly proficient in the use of Force speed, often using the Force to increase the speed of his lightsaber strikes, as seen during his duels with Yuuzhan Vong Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaane and UnuThul.Luke gave in to the Force and found that time seemed to slow down considerably

Oneness He was described as a maelstrom of luminous Force energy, against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused was he that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force to such a degree that the Jedi Master did not seem to be there, physically or as an individual personality. Luke's control over his lightsaber blade was so great that he was said to might as well have been wielding ten, or twenty lightsabers against the Vong.

Force stealth During the Battle of Kashyyyk, Luke shut his presence down after being fired upon by Jaina to make it seem like he died. Later while Ben was in the Embrace of Pain, Jacen gave Ben back his ability to sense the Force temporarily and Ben felt the life force of his father and realized Luke was shutting himself down to everyone except Ben, something no other Jedi has been able to do

lightning rod he user's body with a low level of electromagnetic radiation. Because of this, if the wielder did not have the skills perfected and attempted to use them during a storm, they would be repeatedly struck by lightning. However, when perfected, they allowed the wielder to disable prosthetics and electric implants, interfere with shock shackles, become a range-boosting antenna for a comlink, among other uses.

Mnemotherapy a Force technique used primarily by the Theran Listeners to visualize the target's memories and eradicate them

Fold space a Force power that allowed a Force-user to bend space to instantly transport an object between places

Blood Trail With this technique, the user used their own blood to mark her target and track them through the blood mark using the Force

Force Blast able to unleash blasts of the Force that manifested themselves as yellow torrents of flame

Electric Judgement Electric Judgment, also known as Emerald Lightning



none of that is canon now....:mjcry:



the emperor wasn't some god like sith. if anakin didn't interfere the emperor would have died by mace...so :manny:
 

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none of that is canon now....:mjcry:



the emperor wasn't some god like sith. if anakin didn't interfere the emperor would have died by mace...so :manny:
What I am curious to see now is where they go with the Jedi powers since none of that is cannon and they didn't really elaborate all their skills in the movies so far
 

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How do you eat your own force lightning. That ending was shyt and inexcusable. Just shows how flabby and Sick Vader really was. Got a taste of some lightning and died. Luke was eating that shyt like scooby snacks. The emperor on the other hand... Cant these nikkas float to the ground or some shyt? Ending was trash.
Vader is mostly machine

Of course he couldn't take it like Luke
 

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The nikkas circuits got fried and he perished. :mjlol:

The emperor on the other hand, was powerful as fukk but his powers were useless against gravity, got it.
But doesn't the dark side also destroy your body ( especially force lightening )through its use so the years of being a sith and lighting bolting dudes got him
 

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But doesn't the dark side also destroy your body ( especially force lightening )through its use so the years of being a sith and lighting bolting dudes got him
Yes we need some mental gymnastics to make that BUllshyt ending settle down in our minds. I think it was just weak. I mean he could have punched the emperor in the kidney and threw him. Something. Stabbed him in the rib and threw him. ANYTHING then just picking him up and throwing him.
 

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What I am curious to see now is where they go with the Jedi powers since none of that is cannon and they didn't really elaborate all their skills in the movies so far

i don't know but i hope they use some of expanded universe lore. knights of the republic and the yuuzhan Vong could still work with disney's star wars.
 

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Yes we need some mental gymnastics to make that BUllshyt ending settle down in our minds. I think it was just weak. I mean he could have punched the emperor in the kidney and threw him. Something. Stabbed him in the rib and threw him. ANYTHING then just picking him up and throwing him.
Better than screaming noooooooo
 

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How do you eat your own force lightning. That ending was shyt and inexcusable. Just shows how flabby and Sick Vader really was. Got a taste of some lightning and died. Luke was eating that shyt like scooby snacks. The emperor on the other hand... Cant these nikkas float to the ground or some shyt? Ending was trash.
The Emporer was hitting Luke with love taps of force lightning to torture him slowly...And I wouldn't say he was eating them like snacks, that nikka was in the fetal position crying with smoke coming out of his chest :heh:
Once Vader picked him up to toss him he probably shot him with full power...Power surges through electrical wires directly connected to your respiratory system=bad news for anybody


And Jedi/Sith can't fly....Yoda couldnt stop himself from falling and just float to the floor when he was fighting Sidious...
Emporor was an old man that got thrown with nowhere to fall other than a reactor core
 
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How do you eat your own force lightning. That ending was shyt and inexcusable. Just shows how flabby and Sick Vader really was. Got a taste of some lightning and died. Luke was eating that shyt like scooby snacks. The emperor on the other hand... Cant these nikkas float to the ground or some shyt? Ending was trash.

Sidious force lightning is crazy powerful thats why it hurt him, he also hurt himself with it when Mace redirected it at him. Luke ate that shyt because hes a fukking boss.

He couldnt float to the ground because he fell into a reactor core and exploded. The movie certainly suffered from weak writing at times though. Its like Lucas just wanted to get it over with and collect his check
 
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Yes we need some mental gymnastics to make that BUllshyt ending settle down in our minds. I think it was just weak. I mean he could have punched the emperor in the kidney and threw him. Something. Stabbed him in the rib and threw him. ANYTHING then just picking him up and throwing him.
i think it was meant to illustrate that the devil's power is only illusion, that in the face of god and in the face of love he is just a weak, frail nothing.

luke was right, the emperor's overconfidence was his weakness. he never considered that vader might actually challenge him which is why he couldn't even see him coming.

yea it would have been cool if vader like sliced his fukkin head off or something like that but that image of vader lifting him like a baby and just throwing him out like he was garbage speaks more volumes. at that moment vader saw the light and the devil could do nothing to him.
 

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