Was Ernesto "EL CHE" Guevara a Racist?

[theworldismine13]

I'm not gundum. I don't think any of that crap is important

i dont know what you think its important, but i do know that when i was tryng to say that mexico and the rest of south america should be considered european and eurocentric you came through and objected and said that mexicans cant be considered european becuase they are mixed with native americans

so you were strongly pushing the one drop rule by your own words, im not putting words in your mouth

 

[daze23]

i dont know what you think its important, but i do know that when i was tryng to say that mexico and the rest of south america should be considered european and eurocentric you came through and objected and said that mexicans cant be considered european becuase they are mixed with native americans

so you were strongly pushing the one drop rule by your own words, im not putting words in your mouth

some mexicans are native americans just like some americans are native americans, some mexicans are mixed just like some americans are mixed, and some mexicans are white just some americans are white

its not accurate to describe mexicans as europeans

 

[Tommy Knocks]

which studies are these?

do you have a link to more info regarding this?

I read it while I was there, but you can google it.

 

[newarkhiphop]

this actually could hurt your argument about Che caring about black/African people

one might argue that the reason he went to Africa as opposed to other south american countries after the Cuban revolution was because he didn't valued black/African peoples lives.

Che knew that war and revolution brought death and destruction and didn't mind African women and children dying in the name of his ideological belief.

It's the same thing with the Saudis and Qataris exporting their militant Wahhabi/Salafi ideology to other parts of the Islamic world whiles their Gulf Arab kingdoms remain stable and shiny.


Che Guevara was a terrorist like Osama bin Laden was. They both didn't mind using African people as pawns in the war with Western Capitalism.

Yea cool story, except for the fact that there was already several conflicts already underway in various African nations by the time he got there and many more after he was gone, none of which were product of him being there.

 

[theworldismine13]

some mexicans are native americans just like some americans are native americans, some mexicans are mixed just like some americans are mixed, and some mexicans are white just some americans are white

its not accurate to describe mexicans as europeans

From the point of view of an african slave it's accurate to describe north america and south america as european, descendants of Europeans and Eurocentric

 

[newarkhiphop]

From the point of view of an african slave it's accurate to describe north america and south america as european, descendants of Europeans and Eurocentric

wouldn't that make African americans Eurocentric too? To a certain extent. I mean African Americans in mass don't practice any African cultures or traditions. They speak a European langue , practice a European religion

 

[theworldismine13]

wouldn't that make African americans Eurocentric too? To a certain extent. I mean African Americans in mass don't practice any African cultures or traditions. They speak a European langue , practice a European religion

The United States of America is a eurocentric country, That is a general statement

But yeah from the point of view of an African, the minority group of african americans that reside in the united states can be considered eurocentric, all minority groups that live in the US are Europeanized to a large extent including native Americans

But It all depends from your point of view, culture is abstract it's not a science, so things can be interpreted differently depending on your point of view

What is Barack Obama for example? The answer is it depends on your point of view, people can come up with different answers and they can all be right from their point of view and depending on how they choose to interpret his DNA and his culture

The point I'm making overall is that from my point of view describing Mexico as a Native American country is highly innaccurate, but from a white American point of view Mexicans can be considered a native american country, which is fine, but I simply choose to reject the white American view of Mexico

 

[emoney]

I read it while I was there, but you can google it.

what exactly should I google in order for these studies to come up?

 

[emoney]

Yea cool story, except for the fact that there was already several conflicts already underway in various African nations by the time he got there and many more after he was gone, none of which were product of him being there.

The fact there were conflicts underway further proves my point that this ideological driven man from Argentina had a "White Saviours Complex"

How else could he justify his presence in the middle of Central Africa? By your admittance the people were ALREADY fighting the power.....so what exactly did Che think he was going to contribute?

 

[theworldismine13]

The fact there were conflicts underway further proves my point that this ideological driven man from Argentina had a "White Saviours Complex"

How else could he justify his presence in the middle of Central Africa? By your admittance the people were ALREADY fighting the power.....so what exactly did Che think he was going to contribute?

Che 1960's = Kony 2012

 

[Broke Wave]

Che was a racist... now I've heard it all... can I get some racist quotes from Che when he was really in that field and not from his armchair revolutionary days?

Everyone knows he siad some sour things about black people before he really went out to ride... you're acting like we've never watched fox news or you've come iwth some new revelation.

 

[88m3]

Che was a racist... now I've heard it all... can I get some racist quotes from Che when he was really in that field and not from his armchair revolutionary days?

Everyone knows he siad some sour things about black people before he really went out to ride... you're acting like we've never watched fox news or you've come iwth some new revelation.

Why is it so hard for you to swallow?


It isn't a secret

Spoiler

NO HOMO

 

[Tommy Knocks]

what exactly should I google in order for these studies to come up?

Genetics, the myth-buster? The case of Argentina : Gene Expression


here ya go.

it was a myth buster. they were self identifying as white without actually having taken dna tests. however, they started too in the 90s and it turned out the majority of the population had native blood. ever since then....argentinians and their european complex have since been reversing. same with brazil even.

A study conducted by Argentine, Swedish and North American institutions, established that the genetic average structure of the Argentine population, contains 79.9% of European contribution, whereas the Amerindian admixture, though not fully visible in physical appearance, was estimated to be present in a high percentage of the population, close to 56% on either paternal or maternal lineages.

 

[newarkhiphop]

The fact there were conflicts underway further proves my point that this ideological driven man from Argentina had a "White Saviours Complex"

How else could he justify his presence in the middle of Central Africa? By your admittance the people were ALREADY fighting the power.....so what exactly did Che think he was going to contribute?

ok i get , so


if he goes there and fights with them, he is leading black people to there death

if he goes there and fights with them , he has a white saviors complex


thanks for clearing that up boss

 

[Omar Little]

Hmmm