Was '99 the year when Wu Tang started to show cracks in the armor with jawns like Rae's Immobilarity, GZA's Beneath the Surface, Dirt's Ni$%a Please+

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Barney Rubble said:
Yeah, it's hard to describe, imagine a classic album dropping every other week, anthems all over the radio and tv, and you're still stuck on albums from years ago in your rotation. I understand younger dudes thinking everything they hear from back then is a classic compared to today's trash, but we had high standards because we were used to REAL classics. Four mics might sound like five mics today, but we didn't think so at the time.
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Respectfully young people don’t think this. There isn’t a generation ever that doesn’t think that their music is the best. Go to a show from a 90s artist and count the young faces. Every single metric in existence backs up what im saying.
 
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Knucklehead said:
Respectfully young people don’t think this. There isn’t a generation ever that doesn’t think that their music is the best. Go to a show from a 90s artist and count the young faces. Every single metric in existence backs up what im saying.
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Yeah, I agree, I meant more like kids that were real young in the 90's but still feel a part of hiphop from back then. But, if you were like 8 years old when albums were dropping, you don't really understand the impact they had or didn't have in real time. If you weren't even born yet, then yeah, you probably don't give a fukk about those albums.

I was born in 81 :flabbynsick:, but I don't enter conversations about Kane, Rakim, LL, Run DMC, etc. when it comes to their impact in real time or how their albums were received because I was too young to comprehend the culture at the time.
 
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The “wu snare” was such an essential part of production. I can’t find it, but in an interview RZA said he approached recording 36 Chambers ‘’like a punk record’’. It’s hard to maintain the same intensity you had coming up. Things change, and that will have an impact on your music, as far as creating stuff
 
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Sunalmighty said:
did something happen with sampling or something where he switched his style up? i remember reading an article where he said he BEGGED Rae to let him produce lex diamond story and rae turned him down.

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Others are more knowledgeable, but there was a major court ruling(s) in the 90s that changed sampling. Clearing samples became more and more expensive. Also, RZA started to get more into music theory and such after someone tried to shyt on him as an artist saying he was a musician. So RZA started making beats from scratch with no samples as early as 96 (Assassination Day), and although he didn't completely abandon samples, he started to get more digital.
 
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Whips-n-Chains said:
Man...I like this album but don't love it. It doesn't hold a candle to LET and MM. I always liked IWW
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There are some issues I have with that album (little too much Consequence, "Stressed Out", Q-Tip having so many solo tracks), but overall, it's really good. I'm not going to pretend it's on the same level as Low End or Midnight, but when I think about where hip hop was in 1996, it fits right in. The album is darker and more frustrated, and Q-Tip and Phife still have great chemistry in spite of what everyone (including Tribe themselves) has said about the album. Some of my favorite Tribe verses are on this album.

It Was Written is an all-time classic. I have no problem with people who consider it better than Illmatic. Nas in 1996 is about as close as you can get to the perfect rapper.
 
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Mike Wins said:
Agreed but they recovered in 2000 with SC and The W. It was really over after that.

And the affiliates dropped some classic material in 97, 98 and 99. The first two Killarmy albums, Sunz of Man, Killah Priest, Cappa, La The Darkman, Wu Syndicate all had dope albums.
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The W doesn't get much attention. But that album is fukking dope.
 
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