Yeah they were trying to make something shake in a day or 2 cause they were getting pressured to play again and this the best they could do.
Woulda been nice for them to do a little more planning and orchestrating with the cities but that takes time.
Their boycott was a I'm pissed and dont feel like playing thing more than a we need something back in order to play thing.
All these dudes are for keeping as much money as possible, esp since they are super rich, and we know which party is about taxing the rich as much as possible.
The Salt Lake Tribune learned that Snyder and Owens met Feb. 21, when a nonprofit founded by Owens, Second Chance 4 Youth, attended a Jazz game against the Spurs. Later, Owens asked Snyder for a donation, which he delivered twice: one $500 donation on May 3, and another $500 on June 3, according to campaign disclosures. The donations were to Owens' campaign, not the youth charity.
Owens has criticized those stances. He’s called Black Lives Matter a “Marxist organization,” and told Fox News that “We need to fight for our country against these Marxists and these bullies and cowards that are destroying everything they touch.”
All these dudes are for keeping as much money as possible, esp since they are super rich, and we know which party is about taxing the rich as much as possible.
Obama made the Bush tax cuts permanent. Yes, they are for higher taxes compared to Republicans but it is more rhetoric than action when the rubber meets the road.
Obama made the Bush tax cuts permanent. Yes, they are for higher taxes compared to Republicans but it is more rhetoric than action when the rubber meets the road.
And Trump did make additional tax cuts benefitting the rich as well.
A lot of Democratic rhetoric is raising taxes on the rich. Dem crackas ain't trying to give up no more bread than they have to. I'm sure there's a lot of rich nikkaz who vote Rethug for the same reasons.
The Salt Lake Tribune learned that Snyder and Owens met Feb. 21, when a nonprofit founded by Owens, Second Chance 4 Youth, attended a Jazz game against the Spurs. Later, Owens asked Snyder for a donation, which he delivered twice: one $500 donation on May 3, and another $500 on June 3, according to campaign disclosures. The donations were to Owens' campaign, not the youth charity.
Owens has criticized those stances. He’s called Black Lives Matter a “Marxist organization,” and told Fox News that “We need to fight for our country against these Marxists and these bullies and cowards that are destroying everything they touch.”
And to be honest, I don't even think that they knew that either. They intentions meant well and their hearts were in the right place, but they lacked the vision and true leadership when they decided to go through with the boycott. It also didn't help matters that the player who started the boycott instantly walked it back after it happened and everybody started placing blame and pointing fingers. They didn't know what to ask for in the negotiations to return to play and literally got hoodwinked by the owners because of it.
I have mentioned in previous threads already about how they got hoodwinked by the owners and media in that the CBA is going to get ripped up regardless of whether they finished the season or not. If fans can't be in the stands next season, then the owners are going to want major changes to help offset the financial losses. In no way, were they going to foot the bill for the polling up when they were already facing huge financial losses already because of COVID-19. Especially considering that the majority of them are MAGA anyways.
Agreed. It's some really basic shyt they teach in university or any problem solving/six sigma program: SMART goals. Specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time-bound. So if the problem is police brutality and (one) of if not the biggest issues is qualified immunity... you research what solutions are available and in this case 3 bills were proposed back in June:
just my summary/understanding: George Floyd Justice in Policing Act - abolish qualified immunity, applied to law enforcement
End Qualified Immunity Act - abolish qualified immunity, applied to all local and state government employees, including prison guards, county clerks, public school administrators, and municipal and state employees.
Braun Act - applies to same demographic as EQIA, but wouldn't abolish it, just make it much harder for them to get away with shyt.
The George Floyd Act passed the House of Rep (Democrat controlled) but everyone expects it to get shut down by the Senate (Republican-controlled). It needs both sides to agree of course. So if NBA players had been aware of the situation and nuances behind it, then any reasonable smart goal could focus on how to apply pressure on senate/senators to get this bill passed. Even if getting the bill passed isn't achievable within a reasonable timeline, at least certain actions like creating specific marketing campaigns to the public spelling out the situation or owners making calls to the senate, etc could be.
But simply opening arenas to vote isn't specific enough. It's unfortunate bc it was obvious the players intentions were in the right place.
Agreed. It's some really basic shyt they teach in university or any problem solving/six sigma program: SMART goals. Specific, measurable, achievable, relevant, time-bound. So if the problem is police brutality and (one) of if not the biggest issues is qualified immunity... you research what solutions are available and in this case 3 bills were proposed back in June:
just my summary/understanding: George Floyd Justice in Policing Act - abolish qualified immunity, applied to law enforcement
End Qualified Immunity Act - abolish qualified immunity, applied to all local and state government employees, including prison guards, county clerks, public school administrators, and municipal and state employees.
Braun Act - applies to same demographic as EQIA, but wouldn't abolish it, just make it much harder for them to get away with shyt.
The George Floyd Act passed the House of Rep (Democrat controlled) but everyone expects it to get shut down by the Senate (Republican-controlled). It needs both sides to agree of course. So if NBA players had been aware of the situation and nuances behind it, then any reasonable smart goal could focus on how to apply pressure on senate/senators to get this bill passed. Even if getting the bill passed isn't achievable within a reasonable timeline, at least certain actions like creating specific marketing campaigns to the public spelling out the situation or owners making calls to the senate, etc could be.
But simply opening arenas to vote isn't specific enough. It's unfortunate bc it was obvious the players intentions were in the right place.
They need an ally and friend in the political world that has sway and can help better relay the message of what they are striving for. They essentially came into the negotiations all alone and with no unity and the owners/people in charge saw right through it. They gotta learn how the play the game.
Problem is, I’m not sure exactly who or where that ally could come from.
They need an ally and friend in the political world that has sway and can help better relay the message of what they are striving for. They essentially came into the negotiations all alone and with no unity and the owners/people in charge saw right through it. They gotta learn how the play the game.
Problem is, I’m not sure exactly who or where that ally could come from.
A number of us were saying this back in June. They needed some civil rights activists who could break ish down in layman terms and allow an internal decision to be made among the players before going to the owners.
Again, if it's police brutality then things were already clear as far as smart goals. If it was something outside of that then similar investigation was needed as far as solutions and what was achievable.
Players had nothing tho. And to be fair, they're professional athletes not political science majors.. so I get it. But man, do they need some external help and trust in closing that gap.
A number of us were saying this back in June. They needed some civil rights activists who could break ish down in layman terms and allow an internal decision to be made among the players before going to the owners.
Again, if it's police brutality then things were already clear as far as smart goals. If it was something outside of that then similar investigation was needed as far as solutions and what was achievable.
Players had nothing tho. And to be fair, they're professional athletes not political science majors.. so I get it. But man, do they need some external help and trust in closing that gap.
They need an Obama, but I'm not sure he wants to do so at this point in time or if at all. Jordan could also be that person for them, but he's also an owner as well so he has to tiptoe the line. Those are the only two people I can think of with enough pull and sway for them to actually get things done.
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