Wait a minute, Lance Armstrong has to give back his $$

[FAH1223]

So youre saying the Euro riders were only doping because Lance made them?

wait... has he ever had a positive test?

are we just assuming he doped

 

[mr. smoke weed]

wait... has he ever had a positive test?

are we just assuming he doped

Lance?
that other duke Floyd Landis exposed their whole cheating scandal online a few yrs ago......lance was the ring leader

 

[dennis roadman]

the top guys were on it because he started a 2nd era of drug use, and dude was the leader of it. He had the best doctors. Its not as simple as "they were all on it," after the 1998 Festina scandal a lot of cyclists were off it and tried to race clean. Then here comes Lance saying, "nah, fukk it im doping, try and stop me." And it went off.

ON top of that, he was a bully to everyone and forced cyclists out the sport who opposed his doping, and forced teammates to dope with him. And to point out the bullshyt with "everyone was on it," he saved the best stuff for himself, then gave the 2nd best to his good friends on his team, then the junk to everyone else.

And he bribed events, and the cycling union, to make sure he didnt fail drug tests. What he was doing is the most powerful and amazing system of doping that we have seen in sports. Its even more so than BALCO because Lance was paying off the Cycling Union and the cycling events. He basically owned the sport for a nearly a decade on the course and off it.

Americans dont understand this, and I get it, because we dont follow the sport, but what Lance did is so much bigger than "they all were cheating."

link? book title?

 

[Absolut]

bryant gumbel just shredded this dude in his show ending monologue on hbo real sports. good to see

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

wait... has he ever had a positive test?

are we just assuming he doped

If dudes who finished back in 20th position were getting caught, we're supposed to think that Lance is just THAT much better then other world class cyclists to be able to beat their asses naturally for all those years? Nah, it's elementary he was on that shyt with the rest of em.

If that elaborate system dude mentioned is true, then it seems to me Lance pissed someone off. Perhaps someone else came at Lance for some cash and maybe Lance told em to fukk off so they went to work on him.

 

[wtfyomom]

I cant get into the fake outrage white people have over steroids, theres bigger issues than whether someone took smthg to do better at meaningless game. secondly people pay to be entertained not just to see who wins and Lance entertained just like Bonds, Sosa and Mac did in baseball.

I also agree with dude that said we have medical advancements let them take roids, hgh, or whatever.

I love how thats Peds but Tiger getting Lasix surgery or pithers getting Tommy Jon is perfectly ok

 

[Absolut]

its not really fake outrage. this clown literally built an empire (live strong and all that shyt) off being a fukking lying, cheating, bribing, fraudulent a$$hole for virtually his entire career. ive assumed for a better part of a decade that he was doping, but for some people who have looked up to him as an inspiration and a hero all this time, theres certainly room for some outrage there. this isnt some guy like barry bonds or sammy sosa using roids, its bigger than that. this guy was put on the highest of pedestals for years, and was at the forefront of a bunch of movements that made him a lot of money and it was all based on fraudulent, scumbag merits essentially shytting all over anyone who supported him. couldnt find a clip, but heres gumbel going in on armstrong in his closing comments

“Finally tonight, congratulations to Oakley. Just yesterday the sunglasses, goggles and apparel company became the latest sponsor to cut ties with Lance Armstrong, the cyclist who for so long posed as a champion yet seems to have been little more than a liar, a cheater, a doper and a briber.

“Even though we’ve witnessed the disgrace of Pete Rose, the exposure of Tiger Woods and the incarceration of OJ, it’s hard to think we’ve ever seen any athlete in any era fall so hard so fast as Armstrong. The guy who bullied his way past any and all accusations for years while hiding behind his lawyers has now been understandably cowered into silence and, at last, officially stripped of all seven of those Tour de France titles that he conned so many into thinking he won, while pocketing millions in the process.

“While I can’t think of any single athlete more undeserving of empathy, I’m sure many will note the money he raised for cancer research and see him as simply a flawed hero. But in light of his cited patterns of deceptions, intimidation, and coercion, it’s hard not to see even his charity work as simply part of his con act. If the accusations of investigators are true, and by now there’s no intelligent reason to doubt they are, Lance Armstrong threatened his friends, bribed his foes, cheated his fans, and deceived his sponsors – all of whom thought he was one of a kind. Turns out there were right, he was one of a kind – the worst kind.

And that’s our show for tonight. For all of the good folks here at Real Sports, I’m Bryant Gumbel. Thanks so much for being with us. Good night.”

 

[Liu Kang]

The New York Daily News wrote a long article about who Lance strong-armed & how & when.
[...]

There for those who want to read it :
Victims of Lance Armstrong's strong-arm tactics feel relief and vindication in the wake of U.S. Anti-Doping Agency report - NY Daily News

And they forget many things like how he threatened Bassons in '99 during a stage and how he shytted LIVE in front of the world on Simeoni in 2004

 

[mastermind]

So youre saying the Euro riders were only doping because Lance made them?

journalists everywhere said that riders were clean in the 1999 TDF. They saw how ugly the '98 Festina scandal was, and wanted nothing to do with that.

Lance "made them" by doping anyway and being unabashed by it. Everyone had to catch up, and so they doped too.

wait... has he ever had a positive test?

are we just assuming he doped

no, their are sworn affidavits, eye witness reports, emails with that shady Italian doctor, and samples tested later that show he cheated.

That and of course Armstrong not defending himself when all this documentation was put in front of him.


What I want to know is how dude isnt facing a criminal charge? I feel like some political pressure halted that federal investigation of him.

 

[wtfyomom]

its not really fake outrage. this clown literally built an empire (live strong and all that shyt) off being a fukking lying, cheating, bribing, fraudulent a$$hole for virtually his entire career. ive assumed for a better part of a decade that he was doping, but for some people who have looked up to him as an inspiration and a hero all this time, theres certainly room for some outrage there. this isnt some guy like barry bonds or sammy sosa using roids, its bigger than that. this guy was put on the highest of pedestals for years, and was at the forefront of a bunch of movements that made him a lot of money and it was all based on fraudulent, scumbag merits essentially shytting all over anyone who supported him. couldnt find a clip, but heres gumbel going in on armstrong in his closing comments

see but thats cause dumb people buy into that image bullshiiit. I never did. To me if youre smart you never had him on a pedestal and so now its not a big deal he used PEDS