(Voting Over) Boxing Fantasy Fight HW Tournament: (6) Joe Frazier vs (27) Deontay Wilder

[shmoney]

Deontay Wilder can be the truth all along brehs. We dont know yet, but we DO know that Frazierm who retired at only 32 years old and stood only 5'11 with 73 inch reach will be MUCH too small for 6'7, 83 inch reach having, supreme power punching Wilder.


This mythical matchup is kinda hard, because we still dont know what we have out of Wilder yet.


Im going out on a very brittle limb though and saying that Wilder "Foreman's" Frazier within 10 rounds. Frazier is too small and slow for Wilder...and was there to be hit. Floyd's arms are 1 inch shorter than Frazier's for comparision sakes


I just keep seeing the Foreman vs Frazier fight in my head brehs


In the future, this post will look totally ridicoulous, are total genius....it's up to Wilder to prove that

Wilder 2nd round KO.

That reach and that height makes for a short fight when Deontay drops Frazier with the overhand right!

what kind of fukkery is this?

 

[Newzz]

frazier owned a 6'4 230 Russian in the olympics and has fought dudes 6'3 above....Deontay got power but skill wise frazier could get to him. That tall frame would get worked with body shots and hands down then boom!.

frazier KO.

That was the olympics breh. What happened to that Russian in his pro career?

 

[Newzz]

what kind of fukkery is this?

And if Wilder KOs both Stiverne and Klitschko in his next 2 fights? Then what?


Frazier couldnt handle George Foreman. His size, reach, and power was too much for him...Wilder is bigger with longer arms than Foreman and elite power as well. The ONLY thing is, by including Wilder in these matchups and he isnt "proven" yet, this is really a wildcard pick.


You dont know HOW good Wilder is yet to be dismissing him just yet and neither do I. Im going off of if he lives up to his potential. If he does, he KOs Frazier.


The short future will reveal the true Deontay Wilder

 

[shmoney]

And if Wilder KOs both Stiverne and Klitschko in his next 2 fights? Then what?


Frazier couldnt handle George Foreman. His size, reach, and power was too much for him...Wilder is bigger with longer arms than Foreman and elite power as well. The ONLY thing is, by including Wilder in these matchups and he isnt "proven" yet, this is really a wildcard pick.


You dont know HOW good Wilder is yet to be dismissing him just yet and neither do I. Im going off of if he lives up to his potential. If he does, he KOs Frazier.


The short future will reveal the true Deontay Wilder

Wilder is not foreman lol. Hes taller than foreman but I wouldnt say hes bigger at all. He doesnt have the strength or skill to use the same tactics foreman used against frazier.

 

[Newzz]

Wilder is not foreman lol. Hes taller than foreman but I wouldnt say hes bigger at all. He doesnt have the strength or skill to use the same tactics foreman used against frazier.

Both Foreman vs Frazier fights ended with KOs of Frazier in the 2nd round and the 5th round.

Foreman's power punching/body shots/chin is what beat Frazier, not any particular "skill" he was using.

Wilder punches very hard and, again this is going off of assuming he actually reaches his potential since right now we dont how good until he manages to beat both Stiverne and Klitschko, could do Frazier the same way because Frazier had NOTHING for Foreman.

Being that Frazier retired at 32, and he never fought the Ron Lyle's, Earnie Shavers, George Chuvalo's of the world who also had really good power, the only example I have of him facing a larger opponent with extreme punching power is Foreman....and he looked AWFUL against him both times

 

[shmoney]

Both Foreman vs Frazier fights ended with KOs of Frazier in the 2nd round and the 5th round.

Foreman's power punching/body shots/chin is what beat Frazier, not any particular "skill" he was using.

Wilder punches very hard and, again this is going off of assuming he actually reaches his potential since right now we dont how good until he manages to beat both Stiverne and Klitschko, could do Frazier the same way because Frazier had NOTHING for Foreman.

Being that Frazier retired at 32, and he never fought the Ron Lyle's, Earnie Shavers, George Chuvalo's of the world who also had really good power, the only example I have of him facing a larger opponent with extreme punching power is Foreman....and he looked AWFUL against him both times

lol what. did you even watch the fights? foreman physically pushed frazier back. its a tactic sandy saddler use to use and considering one of foremans trainers was dikk saddler none of this is by accident. he pushed him back stopped all fraziers forward momentum so joe had to keep resetting. every time foreman pushed him back hed tee off on him. go back and watch the fights. its not just punching power that won foreman that fight. he was thoroughly outboxing joe too. wilder simply doesnt have the tools to do that.



you cant just say the reason foreman beat frazier was because of his power. thats disrespecting the whole craft of boxing.

 

[Newzz]

lol what. did you even watch the fights? foreman physically pushed frazier back. its a tactic sandy saddler use to use and considering one of foremans trainers was dikk saddler none of this is by accident. he pushed him back stopped all fraziers forward momentum so joe had to keep resetting. every time foreman pushed him back hed tee off on him. go back and watch the fights. its not just punching power that won foreman that fight. he was thoroughly outboxing joe too. wilder simply doesnt have the tools to do that.



you cant just say the reason foreman beat frazier was because of his power. thats disrespecting the whole craft of boxing.

Breh, "pushing" like that is illegal nowadays though...if you wanted me to include him cheating as a "skill", then there you have it. But the way Foreman was pushing Frazier would today be resulting in Foreman being deducted a point or 2 over the fight.


I didnt say just power breh. I said, power punching/body shots (because he doing good work to Frazier's body)/and Foreman's chin which was pretty good. Wilder has the power punching and body work...does he have the chin to sustain a Frazier punch? We dont know.


Again, it's hypothetical and Im trying to match Frazier (at his best) against Wilder reaching his potential and his chin NOT being a question mark (because we dont know what type of chin Wilder has yet). I believe Wilder would be too big, strong, long, (n/h), and powerful for Frazier.

 

[shmoney]

Breh, "pushing" like that is illegal nowadays though...if you wanted me to include him cheating as a "skill", then there you have it. But the way Foreman was pushing Frazier would today be resulting in Foreman being deducted a point or 2 over the fight.


I didnt say just power breh. I said, power punching/body shots (because he doing good work to Frazier's body)/and Foreman's chin which was pretty good. Wilder has the power punching and body work...does he have the chin to sustain a Frazier punch? We dont know.


Again, it's hypothetical and Im trying to match Frazier (at his best) against Wilder reaching his potential and his chin NOT being a question mark (because we dont know what type of chin Wilder has yet). I believe Wilder would be too big, strong, long, (n/h), and powerful for Frazier.

i cant even believe this is up for discussion. you have deontay wilder beating a top 10 heavyweight of all time?

STOP IT SLIME

 

[Newzz]

i cant even believe this is up for discussion. you have deontay wilder beating a top 10 heavyweight of all time?

STOP IT SLIME

It doesnt matter where you are "ranked"....styles make fights


If you are just going by rankings, instead of the actual matchup, do you


If they match up next round, Im picking Ike Ibeauchi over Joe Frazier as well

 

[shmoney]

It doesnt matter where you are "ranked"....styles make fights


If you are just going by rankings, instead of the actual matchup, do you


If they match up next round, Im picking Ike Ibeauchi over Joe Frazier as well

Yes theres obviously style mismatches. but for that to even come into play the fighters have to be at least near each other in skill level and experience. wilder literally hasnt fought anybody at all. corpses and actual tomato cans is what hes fought. so it doesnt matter how his style matches up with frazier. hes getting ran through. why is wilder even in this competition?

the only time ive seen wilder in with a live body is a 10 second sparring clip where hes getting tooled up by david haye.

he couldnt make it through wlads camp as a sparring partner. got sent home early after getting dropped by a jab.

but this is the guy you pick to beat joe frazier? please stop.

 

[Newzz]

Yes theres obviously style mismatches. but for that to even come into play the fighters have to be at least near each other in skill level and experience. wilder literally hasnt fought anybody at all. corpses and actual tomato cans is what hes fought. so it doesnt matter how his style matches up with frazier. hes getting ran through. why is wilder even in this competition?

I didnt vote him in

the only time ive seen wilder in with a live body is a 10 second sparring clip where hes getting tooled up by david haye.

he couldnt make it through wlads camp as a sparring partner. got sent home early after getting dropped by a jab.

Paul Spadafora was giving Floyd that work in sparring as well

Would that have translated to the professional ring as well?

If it doesnt for Floyd, then why should I use sparring against Wilder

but this is the guy you pick to beat joe frazier? please stop.

I keep telling you over, and over, and over, and over again....but you refuse to listen


Again,

Again, it's hypothetical and Im trying to match Frazier (at his best) against Wilder reaching his potential and his chin NOT being a question mark (because we dont know what type of chin Wilder has yet). I believe Wilder would be too big, strong, long, (n/h), and powerful for Frazier.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Wilder will be food.

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Yes theres obviously style mismatches. but for that to even come into play the fighters have to be at least near each other in skill level and experience. wilder literally hasnt fought anybody at all. corpses and actual tomato cans is what hes fought. so it doesnt matter how his style matches up with frazier. hes getting ran through. why is wilder even in this competition?

the only time ive seen wilder in with a live body is a 10 second sparring clip where hes getting tooled up by david haye.

he couldnt make it through wlads camp as a sparring partner. got sent home early after getting dropped by a jab.

but this is the guy you pick to beat joe frazier? please stop.

And who did George beat before facing Frazier?

George Foreman previous 5 opponents

4-15 Sorrell
48-15-13 Paes
15-5-1 gullik
3-24 Boone
1-14 goodwin

Foreman was only 24-25 when he fought Frazier 3-4 years younger than Wilder

He was sparring with Wlad for like 3 weeks, I doubt he just got sent home after getting dropped by a jab. The only person Ive ever heard say Deontay was drooped was Ali Bashir.
Deontay has said he gave both brothers good work during spars and they might not even wanna see him because of it, I haven't heard or read shyt from either brother saying one way or another
what happened during there spars. If you got some info I aint seen (as in an actual quote from the Klits or Wilder) drop that knowledge, otherwise im calling bullshyt.

Going to that Haye bullshyt, all I have seen is that brief highlight clip/training montage his team put together of him landing a few solid shots on Deontay. What the fukk does that prove ? It was a highlight video and they only got 10 seconds (max) of him hitting Wilder. If he was busting his ass like hes claimed why not show the rest of the footage? He supposedly koed him but mysteriously the tape never shows this happening.

 

[Newzz]

Going to that Haye bullshyt, all I have seen is that brief highlight clip/training montage his team put together of him landing a few solid shots on Deontay. What the fukk does that prove ? It was a highlight video and they only got 10 seconds (max) of him hitting Wilder. If he was busting his ass like hes claimed why not show the rest of the footage? He supposedly koed him but mysteriously the tape never shows this happening.

An article about the sparring between Wilder vs Haye

Deontay Wilder really giving it to David Haye in sparring action
September 17th, 2013 | By Scott Gilfoid:


In just watching a little bit of sparring action between unbeaten 6’7″ heavyweight contender Deontay Wilder (29-0, 29 KO’s) and David Haye (26-2, 24 KO’s) in training camp, you could see that Haye was really taking some vicious head shots from Deontay.

Haye did not look good in getting nailed by Deontay. Haye and Deontay weren’t playing around at all, because both guys were swinging for the fences. It’s a good thing that Haye was wearing head gear and Wilder extra large gloves because I don’t think that Haye would last long with Deontay nailing him the big fight hands that he was hitting him with.

I hate to say it but Haye’s sparring sessions with Wilder will likely be much better than the actual Haye vs Tyson Fury fight on September 28th because Fury doesn’t Deontay’s speed, power or athleticism. The two are world’s apart in the power department.

I’d like to see Haye fight Deontay in the ring because this sparring looked pretty interesting. Haye was landing some big shots of his own, but Deontay was able to cover up after getting hit clean by some big right hands. Once Wilder was covered up, he came storming back and nailed Haye with some shots that are far better than the big bombs that Wladimir Klitschko was landing on Haye. I mean, there’s no comparison really.

Wladimir fought like he was afraid to let his hands go against Haye for fear of being countered by him, but Deontay had no fears whatsoever in throwing his biggest bombs. Deontay looked really quick because I’m not used to seeing Haye get hit so cleanly. Deontay was like a cobra in landing his big right hands. Haye was too slow to react and he kept getting nailed once the first big shot from Deontay hit him. I have no doubts that if this was an actual fight, Deontay would knock Haye out in the 1st round. He’s just too powerful for him.

Haye is getting the best sparring that money can buy for this training camp. He’s got Deontay, Mariusz Wach and Alexander Dimentrenko. Heck, all three of them would beat Tyson Fury without any problems.

Read more at http://www.boxingnews24.com/2013/09...-haye-in-sparring-action/#s2AApASG0C4TeRXP.99

 

[Axum Ezana]

Both Foreman vs Frazier fights ended with KOs of Frazier in the 2nd round and the 5th round.

Foreman's power punching/body shots/chin is what beat Frazier, not any particular "skill" he was using.

Wilder punches very hard and, again this is going off of assuming he actually reaches his potential since right now we dont how good until he manages to beat both Stiverne and Klitschko, could do Frazier the same way because Frazier had NOTHING for Foreman.

Being that Frazier retired at 32, and he never fought the Ron Lyle's, Earnie Shavers, George Chuvalo's of the world who also had really good power, the only example I have of him facing a larger opponent with extreme punching power is Foreman....and he looked AWFUL against him both times

has deontay chin been tested yet in the ring by a power puncher like joe yet though?

also many greats have said shaver is the hardest puncher with foreman being next in line. you sure deontay is as powerful foreman?