No, stop and frisk didn't work. Inefficient and ineffective are the same in this case. The Giuliani policies were different, and yes, they "worked" for obvious reasons, like I said.
Violent crime in America at lowest levels in decades...
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No, stop and frisk didn't work. Inefficient and ineffective are the same in this case. The Giuliani policies were different, and yes, they "worked" for obvious reasons, like I said.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
lol yeah sure
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Hard Times, Fewer Crimes
Why Crime Keeps Falling - WSJ.com
Why Crime Keeps Falling - WSJ.com
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
"Inefficient" and "ineffective" aren't mutually exclusive terms...
yeah that is my point, his retort was pointing out that guliani's tactics and other hard core tactics are inefficient, which is a separate question as to their effectiveness
Did you read my post? I said stop and frisk was inefficient and ineffective, not the Giuliani policies.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Did you read my post? I said stop and frisk was inefficient and ineffective, not the Giuliani policies.
you said
and i said are you saying stop and frisk works
and then you said no because its inefficient and ineffective and claimed it doesnt catch weapons
but going back to your original point it can work to decrease crime just because of the presence and power of the police even if it doesn't catch weapons or drugs or its inefficient, so it can still be effective going by what you originally said
Broke Wave
The GOAT
I don't understand what Progressives or "Liberals" would gain from telling people that violent crime is on the rise? They advocate for less of a police state, that's what conservatives want.
Ok so I'm an idiot for simply reposting an article from the WASHINGTON POST? GTFOH, that's a respectable source all across the globe. I'm simply providing evidence that goes directly against the BULLshyt LIBERAL narrative that clowns like your self constantly like to profess as fact. Concepts such as "too many guns is the cause of ever increasing violence", when the fact of the matter is overall violence has gone down substantially and whilst gun ownership is becoming more and more mainstream. Its moron's like yourself that follow the liberal habit of pushing for knee-jerk responses for legislating morality that usually result in taking away of rights of ordinary American citizens who have done no wrong, all in the name of making the world "safer".
So if you feel there is more gun ownership, yet overall violence is down, why the fukk are liberals pushing so hard to regulate guns? Is it because some white woman is crying on TV about her "perfect" angel getting murked in the streets?
Well for that one white woman I can find over 100 black women in the hood who have lost their children to gun violence, but for some reason when that black woman's child was killed in a gun battle in the streets of Chicago white liberals didn't appear to give a damn.
Why are you always so angry breh? Chill out. Everything doesn't boil down to conservative vs Liberal all the time.
The OP looks at everything through a liberal-conservative lens.
He could walk out of his house and hear birds chirping and see a beautiful rainbow and tie that into some type of liberal conspiracy.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
I don't even get the angle here like, is it because Liberals are for gun control?
Does it matter that gun crimes are actually going up?
Data Comparison from GunPolicy.org Facts
Not every crime involves guns too... I'm honestly stumped
I don't even get the angle here like, is it because Liberals are for gun control?
Does it matter that gun crimes are actually going up?
Data Comparison from GunPolicy.org Facts
Not every crime involves guns too... I'm honestly stumped
I think he started trolling and then left his real identity by the wayside at some point. Now he's just like a robot that mechanically turns out piss-poor troll posts that don't really anger anyone but instead just seem quaint and puzzling.
I honestly think part of the reason for the drop in crime is emergence of Internet/Tech culture.
A lot of people these days (including me
) tend to spend their time doing things like posting on facebook, watching dumb YouTube videos, downloading smartphone apps, playing online games, downloading torrents, bragging about their flat screen TVs, etc.
As opposed to, you know, going outside.
It would make sense then for crime to go down if people are spending less time in the streets and more time on the Internet. Just not as much opportunity to get caught up.
A lot of people these days (including me
) tend to spend their time doing things like posting on facebook, watching dumb YouTube videos, downloading smartphone apps, playing online games, downloading torrents, bragging about their flat screen TVs, etc. As opposed to, you know, going outside.
It would make sense then for crime to go down if people are spending less time in the streets and more time on the Internet. Just not as much opportunity to get caught up.
yeah, his posts read like a Sean Hannity alias or something. People have vouched for his supposed intelligence and reason, but there is no way an intelligent person can churn out the kind of drivel he does, and be on the level. He's not just hyper partisan --- his sht makes no sense.
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
No, you're an idiot for attributing crime going down to more guns on the street. The article itself didn't even claim that and no credible criminologist or sociologist in the world thinks crime dropped because there's more guns now. The shyt wasn't even a formal editorial with sources. It was just someone named "McCullough's" blog post, lol. And as Acri1 already showed, it's not even true and gun ownership has declined.
You didn't provide one shred of evidence to anything other than crime has gone down since the late 90's, which educated people already know..
No, people say that easy access to guns is a large part of the reason why America has historically and up until now still, always had such gaudy violence crime rates that are exponentially higher than other industrialized nations which have stricter gun regulations, which is obviously true.
There was still 151 times more murders in America last year than in say Britain. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with guns and if people didn't have such easy access to guns, all 8,775 of those murders would've still been committed. They just would've all committed the same gun murders using knifes and rat poison instead.
Everybody knows crime has gone down in about the last decade and a half. Or at least I thought everybody did. I guess you didn't. I'm glad you learned something yesterday, albeit something that was common knowledge to educated people.
Its moron's like yourself that follow the liberal habit of pushing for knee-jerk responses for legislating morality that usually result in taking away of rights of ordinary American citizens who have done no wrong, all in the name of making the world "safer".
So if you feel there is more gun ownership, yet overall violence is down, why the fukk are liberals pushing so hard to regulate guns? Is it because some white woman is crying on TV about her "perfect" angel getting murked in the streets? Well for that one white woman I can find over 100 black women in the hood who have lost their children to gun violence, but for some reason when that black woman's child was killed in a gun battle in the streets of Chicago white liberals didn't appear to give a damn.
