Vinnie Paz Shares His List Of Slept-on Rappers | Melquan, Tragedy, Killa Sin, AZ, Superb, Starang, Black Rob, Juju, Tash , Akinyele +(Thoughts???)

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Dope list…

Killa Sin should’ve gotten a 4th Disciple produced/RZA executive produced solo circa 97-98…breh is mad nice.

Tragedy Khadafi is mad underrated and one of my personal favs

Buckshot doesn’t seem to get talked about much

Prime Kurupt was as good as anyone
Buckshots 9th wonder run was probably top 5 comeback for a MC.
 

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I agree with many of those. But I think Black Rob was always a mediocre rapper. Like G Depp had a similar style and was way more technically proficient.

Starang and Slawta are probably the biggest sleepers.

Tragedy has a small but dedicated fanbase.


Black Rob was really only good on the star is born album.

After that in regards to his health. I try to just think his career was never going to show its full potential.
We just got lucky to get the star is born album.
where he was malleable.
to the puzzle sonically and executed.
at what his best was for that time.

Duke life was to tumultuous in every sense.

to ever have ever heard.
what was consistently great about him for puff to give him a deal.

It is what it is.

I feel he was one of the badboy artist puff could prey upon and rip. so out there.
Rob enabled that and was all for it as well.
Only thing I can say conclusively is we got to at least hear that project and we were rewarded as a listeners. Rob and g dep are the only two post jiggy era rappers I ever gave a listen to or purchase. In my distinctly and usually staunch no badboy after the unbelievable bside edict.



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Black Rob was really only good on the star is born album.

After that in regards to his health. I try to just think his career was never going to show its full potential.
We just got lucky to get the star is born album where he was malleable to the puzzle sonically and executed at what his best was for that time.

Duke life was to tumultuous in every sense.

to ever have ever heard.
what was consistently great about him for puff to give him a deal.

It is what it is.

I feel he was one of rhe badboy artist puff could prey upon and rib so out there he enabled that and was all for it as well.
Onky thing I can say conclusively is we got to at least hear that project and we were rewarded as a listeners. Rob and g dep are the only two post jiggy era rappers I ever a listen to or purchase. In my distinctly and usually staunch no badboy after the unbelievable bside edict.



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True. Being on Bad Boy also did him no favors either.
 

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AZ gets the respect he deserves. He failed to meet expectations. I wouldn't say Perb was slept on either, unless he believes Perb wrote SC.
I disagree with AZ.

His albums are underrated. He may respected as an emcee but he doesn't get his due as a songwriter. The guy can craft an album which not everybody on this list can do.

All the more impressive considering his often limited resources. He only failed to meet expectations when it came to commercial sucess. He had a few bad business moves that sealed his fate. Happens too often in Hip Hop especially back then.

If anything I feel your assessment is more accurate regarding Tradegy and probably Black Thought. Even though Black Thought seems to be having a renaissance as of late.

Black Rob and Ras Kass would be on my list. At least both had great debuts. Black Rob could have been a cemented top 5 story teller. And even now, Ras is still a beast while his peers (Kurupt and Canibus, 4 HRSEMen) burnt out and fell to the way side.

Those two are cautionary tales when it comes to alcoholism. The difference between addicts and rappers who like to have a good time.

Good list, Vinnie. I'm glad when students of the craft share their thoughts.
 

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Yeah I never heard of dude
Reading the YouTube comments, it looks like he was signed to Chuck D but got caught up in label bullshyt.

Yeah Bro My Brother Mel was scheduled to drop WW1 which was the title of his 1 album and then the label shelf him on some bullshyt.Back then all the labels wouldn’t pick you up because your project was already in progress and got shelved. There was a lot of politics surrounding him and specially coming out from Public Enemy who was already facing backlash by the industry for the effect they had on middle White America. Which Public Enemy was responsible for expanding hip hop thru middle America. Then Emcee’s of dat time like Nas was now on da come up & all of us out here was targeting all of them. Hence, the title of this song is called Krunch Time which was an attack on Nas Half Time. The industry Blackballed all of us who was coming out from Nassau L.I. After Mel they did the same to Bad News who was a Beast same way. Who was part of the Rowdy Bunch who was our neutralizer for the Wu-Tang Clan. Then we had Cuckoos Nest where Roc Marciano who name was Rakeem back then.The Voyages who was the answer for Tribe Called Quest. The Dow Nutz , Trom Unit, Most High Generation, LIUNS DEN and my group Inner Circle.
 

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I agree with many of those. But I think Black Rob was always a mediocre rapper. Like G Depp had a similar style and was way more technically proficient.

Starang and Slawta are probably the biggest sleepers.

Tragedy has a small but dedicated fanbase.

Don't do Robbie O like that. He was on the project benches with it, hip-hop meant a lot to him before he made a dollar from it. His style is meant to be straightforward and conversational. It's harder to appreciate for some but mc'ing is about engagement, the purpose isn't to confuse the audience. Personally I don't think he sounds like G Dep. The similarity is that Rob & Dep genuinely struggled growing up.
 
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