“Villanova Dogs and a Domesticated WildKAT... Make It Make Sense..." Official 2024 NY Knicks off-season Thread

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He's damn near a negative even when he shoots lights out. Bojan and Burks shouldn't see the court once the team is fully healthy.

Can't rebound, pass, or defend. If he has to dribble more than 2 or 3 times almost guaranteed to end up in a turnover. This dude is Fournier 2.0. Get him outta here :camby:
 

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Can't rebound, pass, or defend. If he has to dribble more than 2 or 3 times almost guaranteed to end up in a turnover. This dude is Fournier 2.0. Get him outta here :camby:

No argument there but we still have to see how those two are implemented within a healthy roster. They will most likely get better looking shots when Randle comes back whereas right now they have to create.
 

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No argument there but we still have to see how those two are implemented within a healthy roster. They will most likely get better looking shots when Randle comes back whereas right now they have to create.


Knicks track record with role players from Europe has been pretty abysmal for awhile now. From Mario Hezonja to Fournier to now Bodgdanovic.....

Make the Knicks Great again :mjpls: :mjpls: :mjpls:
 

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Knicks track record with role players from Europe has been pretty abysmal for awhile now. From Mario Hezonja to Fournier to now Bodgdanovic.....

Make the Knicks Great again :mjpls: :mjpls: :mjpls:

Bo Bo though with a healthy lineup could be good though.

Way better offensive threat compare to the other two.
 

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Great article by Fred Katz and ask a great question. Even if we get healthy do we even have enough time to turn the ship.




New York Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau could have walked into Tuesday’s postgame availability with a sign on his forehead, one line plastered that could answer any question from any reporter.

What in the world do you want me to say?

The Knicks were missing their three best players — and arguably their fourth-best, too, depending on your opinion of Mitchell Robinson — Tuesday against the Atlanta Hawks. It’s no surprise they still played hard. No surprise they didn’t quit when they got down early, roaring back from down 22 points to tie the game in the second half before eventually running out of gas. No surprise that the offense struggled, even though it created acceptable, open looks against a notoriously porous defense. And no surprise, the short-handed Knicks lost.

These days, even after a 116-100 defeat to the 10th-place Hawks, analyzing a squad that has dropped eight of its past 11 games is a shallow exercise. Remove four starters from any team, and life won’t be cushy.

The Knicks haven’t had Robinson (ankle) since December, Julius Randle(shoulder) and OG Anunoby (elbow) since the end of January, and now they’re without Jalen Brunson, who is dealing with a knee contusion.

This is not even an impression of what they are supposed to look like. Miles McBride isn’t supposed to play more than 46 minutes a night — and over the past two games, no, that is not an exaggeration. Josh Hart is not supposed to run for 40-plus minutes in seven consecutive games. Donte DiVincenzo, for as tremendous of a season as he’s having, is not supposed to take 24 high-stress shots, as he did against Atlanta.

The hope is that the injured players emerge to create a postseason threat. Brunson’s knee contusion sounds like it could be a short-term injury. Anunoby is going through on-court work and could return this month. Randle, who famously dreads sitting out games, hasn’t yet been cleared for contact but is pushing to play again, hoping he can rehab his dislocated shoulder. If he had his way, he’d be back yesterday.

The Knicks hoped to bide their time until the recoveries of those three and possibly Robinson, whose status is uncertain. Now, they have neither the quality nor the quantity to keep pace with the league’s elite, but once they do, a facsimile of their 14-2 January could come — only this time, it would be in April and May. And yet, with 20 games to go in the schedule and with four teams suffocating them, there is only so much time to bide.

The middle of the Eastern Conference playoff picture has converged into a mosh pit, and because of this recent skid, even if there isn’t much long-term analysis to take away from the group’s nightly performances, the Knicks are at risk of getting squished.

One win or one loss could be the difference between home-court advantage and the Play-In Tournament.

With the Orlando Magic’s 119-109 win over the dreadful Washington Wizards on Wednesday night, the Knicks (36-26) are now the No. 5-seeded team in the East. New York is only a half-game ahead of the sixth-place Miami Heat, one game ahead of the seventh-place Philadelphia 76ersand 1.5 games ahead of the eighth-place Indiana Pacers. Being the No. 3-seeded team, which the Knicks once were, is growing out of reach.

Get Anunoby and maybe Robinson back, and the defense can restore its dominance. The Knicks were the NBA’s stingiest team in January. Adding a couple of NBA All-Defensive-caliber guys can get them back there. When Randle returns, Brunson will run alongside someone who can properly spell him when opponents double-team him. The offense will open up again.

There was a stretch not long ago when the Knicks looked like contenders, winning 15 of 17 after Anunoby first joined the crew. And it wasn’t just the media or fans who bought into them; the organization did, too.

In February, the Knicks traded a promising 23-year-old, Quentin Grimes, for a couple of veterans, Bojan Bogdanović and Alec Burks. The move was supposed to add bench scoring behind Brunson, which the team had lost when it traded Immanuel Quickleyand RJ Barrett to the Toronto Raptorsin the Anunoby deal. The objective was to help today’s roster.

New York won a playoff series last spring. This time around, the goals were even more ambitious. But the more time its stars miss, the more that one month of dominance risks becoming less of a reality and more of a tease.

“I feel if this team gets healthy, we can make noise,” Hart said. “Obviously, you don’t want to be in the Play-In. You’d like to have that three or five days of rest going into the first round. It’s a cliché Thibs thing, but we’re just trying to take it one day at a time. We’re going to get guys back soon, but we have to keep pushing. At the end of the day, we are where we are and I like this team.
 

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Part 2

The math still likes the Knicks, too. Even after this 11-game plunge, they have a good chance at remaining in the top six, which would secure an automatic playoff spot.

Basketball-Reference’s projection system gives them only a 19 percent probability of falling into seventh or eighth place and thus dropping into the Play-In Tournament, where the only guarantee is chaos. Of course, if their best players remain in street clothes, then that number will continue to grow. Heck, there is a world where the Knicks sink into a scary place as soon as this week.

They have two days off before they host the Magic on Friday. Lose that game and Orlando leaps them, as could Miami and Philadelphia, which would pummel New York into the land of Play-In randomness.

The two Floridian teams, specifically, are candidates to stay hot, especially considering both are already rolling. The Heat own the NBA’s third-easiest remaining strength of schedule. The Magic own the fourth. The Knicks are in the middle of the pack with their remaining opponents combining for a .501 winning percentage, as have the Sixers’. Meanwhile, the Pacers have the seventh-toughest remaining strength of schedule, the main reason most projection systems anticipate they will finish eighth.

The standings are so close that only one unlucky bounce, one upset win or loss and one unfortunate injury could change any of these teams’ fortunes. It’s so close that even if the Knicks might not look like this when they play in April, the guys on the court today could be the ones who decide their long-term fate.

Drawing the Boston Celtics in the first round could be a death sentence. Giving back almost a week of rest and instead having to compete in a win-or-you’re-out tournament that leads into the playoffs would be a nightmare. Losing home-court advantage in the first round, though it’s not nearly as dire as the other scenarios, would not be ideal — and it didn’t seem likely only a month ago.

(Photo of Jalen Brunson: Elsa / Getty Images)
 
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