[VIDEO] Elgin Bylor aka Rabbit - UNSTOPPABLE

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3btloSB6-b4"]Elgin Bylor aka Rabbit - UNSTOPPABLE - YouTube[/ame]

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Will he decide to drive on you, dunk on you, shoot over you, shoot around you, hit a cutting teammate, iso from the perimeter, or post you up?, It can't be certain... It can be certain however, that once he moves, you won't be stopping him. The Rabbit got his offensive game as a D.C. streetballer from the mid 50's. He went on to attend Seattle University then dominated in the NBA throughout the 1960's dropping insane numbers before injury and age caught up with him. He was one of the leagues first truly unguardable players.

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so what yall think would he still be that class of "unguardable" like the leagues Melo/Lebron/Wades if he played today?
 

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beast for his day never realized how small he was
 

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Great video, looks kind of like Pacers Ron Artest in how he moved but quicker.

Makes sense, they both SF's bout same height xept Baylor didn't lift weights so he was always at least 10-15lbs lighter. Some guy was tellin me Baylor couldn't be an offensive player in todays league cuz 6-5 forwards can't score in the modern era.

(Another 6-5 scoring forward who I guess couldn't play today)
*Charles Barkley 6-4 5/8ths - 1992 Olympics "w/o shoes" measurement

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Makes sense, they both SF's bout same height xept Baylor didn't lift weights so he was always at least 10-15lbs lighter. Some guy was tellin me Baylor couldn't be an offensive player in todays league cuz 6-5 forwards can't score in the modern era.

(Another 6-5 scoring forward who I guess couldn't play today)
*Charles Barkley 6-4 5/8ths - 1992 Olympics "w/o shoes" measurement

:heh:

Looking at his game, he'd probably be a top 10 scorer today and listed at 6"6 or 6"7 which is around the height of modern small forwards (Michael Kidd Gilchrist is 6"7 in sneakers). If Ron Artest could score 20ppg with the Kings I see no reason why Baylor couldn't do better, hell if Bonzi Wells could hit 17ppg Baylor should be right around the 20-26ppg mark.

As for Charles, I think he's the biggest aberration in NBA history to be honest, he's like a glitch in the matrix or some shyt. I don't think we'll ever see anyone quite like him again, they said he was 300lbs on draft night and came into the season as a rookie around 280-290lbs. He shouldn't have been as good as he was if you just went by his height and weight, yet there he was backing down guys who were half a foot taller than him and still getting his shots off over them. If you were bigger than him he'd take you off the dribble, if you were smaller than him he'd back you down, such an easy idea to grasp yet some many guys can't understand that today.
 
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i saw a barkley highlght on youtube where i believe... he dropped like..... 53 on the warriors. its was one of the most unstoppable displays of pure basketball ive ever seen. his physical strength seemed to just seem like he could do whatever he wanted in a way. he looked like a much more powerful dwyane wade and wade is very physically powerful but with a nowitski unstoppability from 15-20 feet. amazing that him and wade are equal height.
 

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i saw a barkley highlght on youtube where i believe... he dropped like..... 53 on the warriors. its was one of the most unstoppable displays of pure basketball ive ever seen. his physical strength seemed to just seem like he could do whatever he wanted in a way. he looked like a much more powerful dwyane wade and wade is very physically powerful but with a nowitski unstoppability from 15-20 feet. amazing that him and wade are equal height.


Had 56, I watched that game on TV, almost had 30 in the first quarter and was 11 for 11. Dude was just a nightmare to defend against.

He's slightly taller than Wade, Wade is 6"4 in shoes, Barkley is 6"4 and some change without them. Even then, a PF dominating bigger guys like he did was just unreal, even as a shell of his former self he held his own with Duncan (PBUH).
 

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i saw a barkley highlght on youtube where i believe... he dropped like..... 53 on the warriors. its was one of the most unstoppable displays of pure basketball ive ever seen. his physical strength seemed to just seem like he could do whatever he wanted in a way. he looked like a much more powerful dwyane wade and wade is very physically powerful but with a nowitski unstoppability from 15-20 feet. amazing that him and wade are equal height.

Wade is 6-3.75 w/o shoes on draftexpress.com/measurements, so technically Wade is an inch shorter. Wade is built like a tank though, 212-235lbs at that height is insane. His weight gain like most players from this era is actually from goin to the gym.

Barkleys weight was like, all in his thighs and core so u just couldn't move him out of position at all. The lowest #'s Barkley ever measured in weight during a season was 252lbs and that was in his prime in the early 90's when he'd slimmed down significantly. The highest #'s I have recorded of him is 286lbs and 284lbs and those were from early in his career when he was still fat - thats about 10-15lbs heavier than a yoked Dwight Howard. Most of the latter half of his career I think he liked to hover around 260.

Now unlike some players from that era I've never uncovered a true "barefoot" height of Baylor but I'm assuming he's no shorter than 6-4 3/4 and no taller than 6-5 1/2 - that's a reasonable plus / minus range based on how tall other players have turned out to be from that era relative to their listed info (back then they didn't exaggerate heights to the same degree as today, lotta times they even underrated their height). But I do have this article that reveals both Baylors highest, and lowest weight #'s that I've found that he played at during his career:

The Southeast Missourian - Google News Archive Search

213lbs was him slimming down to protect his knees and extend his career. 236lbs is the most he weighed prior to that. And I know he was over 230lbs even at Seattle University b4 the NBA so Baylor had a strong wide frame which is why he played best as a small forward. Had he played in this era I'd imagine he'd be lifting weights and weighing upwards of 245, and as said with a list height of 6-6 or 6-7.
 

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i saw a barkley highlght on youtube where i believe... he dropped like..... 53 on the warriors. its was one of the most unstoppable displays of pure basketball ive ever seen. his physical strength seemed to just seem like he could do whatever he wanted in a way. he looked like a much more powerful dwyane wade and wade is very physically powerful but with a nowitski unstoppability from 15-20 feet. amazing that him and wade are equal height.

Man....when Chuck D said he'd ram it down your throat like Barkley.....that shyt meant serious business.
 
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