VICE: Does racial resentment fuel opposition to paying college athletes?

[Walt]

Free education, free food and free living isn't being paid? I'm starting to think people that don't think that is payment are missing part of their brain.

I'd discuss this with you if I had even the slightest bit of faith in you being able to admit you know nothing about how a university, a major football program, capitalism, and double-talk actually work. But clearly it would just amount to me providing facts, reason, and context and you posting cliche talking points and simplistic, irrelevant questions like "if one man is pain x, how can another be paid y?" while tossing in the occasional emoticon.

 

[Master Teacher]

the athletes are making the colleges billions of dollars
shyt is free labor seriously

white people literally believe athletes are getting a free ride lmao, when the student athletes actually contribute to college far more than they ever could simply because they are an asset bringing in revenue

Universities are a business ,the athletes need to be paid period

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

I'd discuss this with you if I had even the slightest bit of faith in you being able to admit you know nothing about how a university, a major football program, capitalism, and double-talk actually work. But clearly it would just amount to me providing facts, reason, and context and you posting cliche talking points and simplistic, irrelevant questions like "if one man is pain x, how can another be paid y?" while tossing in the occasional emoticon.

Ok what don't I know about how a university or major football program works Please enlighten me.. And I'm currently enrolled in a university business program. I think I know my fair share about capitalism as well.. But once again humor me, please. Would love to know ur genius point of view

 

[Walt]

Ok what don't I know about how a university or major football program works

Obviously just about nothing.

 

[JahBuhLun]

Yes it is.. most athletes just don't give a fukk about their education. And that's their own fault.
That's one of the biggest lies I've ever heard. Most athletes just don't care about their studies. All they do is practice and go to class how is it difficult to focus on studies? They just don't WANT to..

These schools put millions into training, equipment and nutrition and hiring the best coaches to make the players the best they can be. And if u take your education seriously u can have what's known as a career waiting for u after football. Which is worth a lot of money. Stop saying its not Its not like a 5 star athlete is going to play football for Villanova and making them any money. So how do we determine which athlete is worth what? That's the biggest problem..

If u take ur education seriously and get a good degree how is that not valuable? How is that a lie


Free education, free food and free living isn't being paid? I'm starting to think people that don't think that is payment are missing part of their brain.

But not all tuition is the same. This is the SEC tuition list:

The latest in our Princeton Review series examines the tuition costs of every SEC school, both in state and out of state. Each of the amounts listed below are expenses for one academic year.

School In-State Tuition Out-of-State Tuition
Alabama $10,170 $25,950
Arkansas $7,028 $20,332
Auburn $8,808 $26,424
Florida $6,313 $28,590
Georgia $9,364 $27,574
Kentucky $8,610 $18,798
LSU $7,552 $24,715
Mississippi State $7,140 $18,478
Missouri $8,220 $23,247
Ole Miss $7,344 $20,574
South Carolina $11,082 $29,898
Tennessee $10,190 $28,380
Texas A&M $6,149 $24,742
Vanderbilt* $43,620 N/A

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

These athletes should be paid. NCAA has such a messed up system.

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

Obviously just about nothing.

Cool.

Question for the group. What about the football programs that LOSE money? Should we make those players pay money back to the school for their shytty performance?

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

But not all tuition is the same. This is the SEC tuition list:

That's just tuition. Room+Board+Books+Food is another 20-25k per year.

So over 4 years that's 200k worth at a school like Bama.

 

[tremonthustler1]

I think "how would this work" is such a bullshyt question. The same way football coaches end up making more than volleyball coaches....that's how it would work.

The idea that all student athletes are equal is bullshyt. Even in high school I knew the star players were worth more than me lol

They'll just jack up tuition more on students. They're not touching those profits

 

[RubioTheCruel]

They need to allow the players to make money off their own likenesses. That's an easy fix.

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

NCAA study finds all but 20 FBS schools lose money on athletics

Yea let's pay all these student athletes when only 20 schools are making money from their athletic departments. Great idea fellas.

I don't know shyt about how universities work huhMost of these schools are losing money I though most people knew that.

 

[TUA TAGOVAILOA]

I'm a student I know how shyt at universities work. These schools aren't making money if they start paying players its going to come from MY tuition.

 

[Silkk]

Yea but bench players get more than their moneys worth. its star athletes that don't get they moneys worth.

Case by case basis

There are only a few select players who this applies to.

Without Lamar Jackson, the U of L football program would be irrelevant nationally. He should be compensated for the interest and merchandise sales he generates. The other 70 something guys on the roster shouldnt get squat imo. With the exception of a few transcendent athletes, most of these dudes are expendable and need universities more than universities need them

Have you ever been on a football TEAM?

 

[Walt]

@Raul
@Boesky

There's a course I used to teach on critical thinking, research, and writing. One of the "controversial" issues we engaged was whether or not college athletes should be paid. During the initial discussion, 70-80% of the students were against paying the athletes. They would catalogue their reasons as a group, and analyze them in terms of logic and emotion. Every single argument was emotional. Then they did research on their own, stripping out emotion and focusing only on facts and consistency of principles. The next week 70-80% of the class was adamantly in favor of paying the athletes. Last October -which was my final time teaching that specific course - was the first time, after research, 60-70% of the class was still against paying athletes. Their arguments and papers, regardless of the assignment, still leaned heavily on emotion. It was one of a handful of things that gave me a chilling feeling Trump was really going to win the election.

 

[Walt]

I'm a student I know how shyt at universities work.

After all these years and all these threads I'm still shocked when y'all actually go back and forth with people this purposely obtuse.