Venom and Carnage are weak ass villians.

[Turlast]

Peter needed Reed Richards' sonic gun at maximum frequency to take Carnage down during their first encounter.

Carnage stormed into a loud rock concert and was completely unbothered by the sound. He was beating the brakes off of Spidey and Venom there.

Basic loud noises won't do shyt to them.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

blasphemous

 

[parallax]

Other heroes beat venom ass all the time in the 90s
Fantastic four had Johnny Strom so that was easy. Iron man used a sonic device as well. It was hilarious how spiderman would get beat by venom when he knew he was coming for him.

iron man got beat by panther using a bottle of windex and had a fleet of _buster armors that rarely worked on their intended targets

 

[Peter Parker]

Yeah, I'll go down to my grave stating that Peter Parker is a clown ass superhero.

His stable of villains is high-key ass considering the fact in the OP, how he allows kingpin to exist and swap hands with him despite being MUCH stronger, and being poor as shyt despite supposedly being a genius.

Green Goblin is an S-tier street level villain, iconic

Superior Spider-man will give you a much better appreciation of Otto Octavious, one of the most fantastic, complex characters in all of capeshyt

Morbius despite that shyt movie(that I never saw but I just know it is) is cool as shyt

Also, Kingpin has super strength and Peter kicks the shyt out of him nearly every time no fukkery involved. And his money woes are thoroughly explained in Superior Spider Man

 

[Mac Ten]

Spider-Man: The Animated Series made me a fan of Venom and Carnage..

Who would have knew that Hank Azaria would be voicing him???

 

[King_Kamala61]

Green Goblin is an S-tier street level villain, iconic

Superior Spider-man will give you a much better appreciation of Otto Octavious, one of the most fantastic, complex characters in all of capeshyt

Morbius despite that shyt movie(that I never saw but I just know it is) is cool as shyt

Also, Kingpin has super strength and Peter kicks the shyt out of him nearly every time no fukkery involved. And his money woes are thoroughly explained in Superior Spider Man

Superior Spider-Manwill one day be a classic and fan fave pf the Spider-Man mythos. Glad I collected that run. Stegman art is

 

[parallax]

Green Goblin is an S-tier street level villain, iconic

Superior Spider-man will give you a much better appreciation of Otto Octavious, one of the most fantastic, complex characters in all of capeshyt

Morbius despite that shyt movie(that I never saw but I just know it is) is cool as shyt

Also, Kingpin has super strength and Peter kicks the shyt out of him nearly every time no fukkery involved. And his money woes are thoroughly explained in Superior Spider Man

superior spider man only works in a vacuum of carelessness and stupidity. when the only ones to question that something was wrong with peter were cyclops and wolverine, it makes every hero that just accepted his actions as being an ass or just allowing it look like horrible fukking people.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

what about the maximum carnage run?

 

[Peter Parker]

superior spider man only works in a vacuum of carelessness and stupidity. when the only ones to question that something was wrong with peter were cyclops and wolverine, it makes every hero that just accepted his actions as being an ass or just allowing it look like horrible fukking people.

He had to fight the entire Avengers because they knew it wasn't him, what are you talking about? Only thing that saved him if I'm remembering correctly is his brain scan came up clean

 

[parallax]

He had to fight the entire Avengers because they knew it wasn't him, what are you talking about? Only thing that saved him if I'm remembering correctly is his brain scan came up clean

countless times of them running into him before this and just accepting him being a dikk.
all the psychics on earth that were either parkers friend or at least didnt like him, and none of them were on spocks ass.
and it wasnt even like the same personality inverted like hydra cap. he was a different person in every way
both luke and jess wrote him off completely in mighty avengers

 

[Justin Nitsuj]

The Venom and possibly Carnage in the Spider-Man 2 game isn't weak by a long shot. They not even weakened by fire in that universe and you see how Venom turned people (especially MJ) into symbiotes. Now just imagine how big the threat Carnage will be.

 

[Peter Parker]

countless times of them running into him before this and just accepting him being a dikk.
all the psychics on earth that were either parkers friend or at least didnt like him, and none of them were on spocks ass.
and it wasnt even like the same personality inverted like hydra cap. he was a different person in every way
both luke and jess wrote him off completely in mighty avengers

You not understanding nuance and subtext has nothing to do with the story

 

[parallax]

You not understanding nuance and subtext has nothing to do with the story

There's no nuance and subtext to miss. Otto Jacks Petes body and life and attempts to do things better only to fail at the end partly because he doesn't have what Peter has, as well as the fact that the goblins didn't respect him and fukked his shyt up. Doesn't change the fact that most heroes just gave up on him. That's bad writing. Like beast going full villain and the xmen just accepting it

 

[Eddie Brock]

@Peter Parker
@Eddie Brock
@Cletus Kassidy

Please don’t tag us in this clout chasing ass thread

 

[Womb Raider]

Carnage was willing to go at it with Deadpool at least.

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I had no idea this was a thing, reading now