Venn Diagram of Irrational Nonsense

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I think I quoted the wrong person, which led to an entire page worth of back and forth :mindblown:

I meant to quote Sensitive Blake Griffin not thekingsmen :snoop:
 

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Dog I have had work done on both my pulled hamstrings and my shoulder just recently, it is very much real.

Acupuncture dont work if you got an eye dangling out the socket but injuries like the ones I had, definitely applies. Maybe you went to someone who didn't know what they were doing.

Acupuncture is actually covered by many insurers and recognized in the medical field as a beneficial form of pain therapy.

The problem is people taking shyt to the next level....Acupuncture and Qi Gong have their place but you're not gonna throw fireballs or cure your cancer with needles. This is where most of the skepticism comes from.
JAMA Network | JAMA Internal Medicine | German Acupuncture Trials (Gerac) For Chronic Low Back PainRandomized, Multicenter, Blinded, Parallel-Group Trial With 3 Groups

Care to explain why there is NO difference in effectiveness between Sham Acupuncture and Real acpuncture?

PLACEBO PLACEBO PLACEBO (people severely underestimate how powerful this effect is...)

This doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I wonder how it affects those who don't "believe" in it, if they will experience the same placebo effect or not.
 

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Sounds like someone isnt very open minded.
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As far as the acupuncture and yoga type stuff goes, I'm willing to consider that sticking needles into your body, and basic stretching/breathing techniques, may have some form of health benefit, even if only placebo.

Definitely nothing metaphysical going on though. The chart is on-point.

Niccas out here believing in Obi-Wan Kenobi type of shyt....:snoop:
 
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Open-mindedness - YouTube

As far as the acupuncture and yoga type stuff goes, I'm willing to consider that sticking needles into your body, and basic stretching/breathing techniques, may have some form of health benefit, even if only placebo.

Definitely nothing metaphysical going on though. The chart is on-point.

Niccas out here believing in Obi-Wan Kenobi type of shyt....:snoop:

I dont think you know the limits of the human mind or body so :yeshrug: You're the one who sounds foolish. Pills, machines and cutting. The way of the fool. We live on a floating rock in the middle of a void. How crazy is that.
 

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Not all TCM is bogus, I personally haven't had acupuncture but i can definitely speak for some of the remedial tinctures i've had from my master from everything from a cold to bruise/strike wound stuff. A great deal of it is effective to some degree, mostly the herbal, massage, and neigong side of things. Some it may even make perfect sense from a scientific perspective, like dit da jow medicine probably has some antiinflammatory compounds for example, and neigong being really good for your c/v system because you're training your breath, removing stress with exercise and mediation, and moving your body in a very healthy way (hard to put it any other way). I have my doubt with the more esoteric stuff like eating tiger cocks increasing your male vitality or really really strict principles of jing conservation, but in my experience a lot of the more commonplace/common stuff has its worth.

As for projecting Qi and all this 'feat' shyt, a great deal of that is actually stuff propogated by the chinese government and intellectually dishonest masters trying to loop in gullible western students. I have seen some qigong healing, but I can't speak as to whether it was the massage, herbs, qigong or the whole thing that came together to make it work. Standing neigong helped me recover from a lot of injuries at any rate.
These dudes don't know breh

I've had a lot of acupuncture in the years since I started training

Hamstring pulls, fukked up shoulder, messed up back...I've had a lot of shyt

In my personal experience, if your specialist didn't help you they either don't know what they're doing or your injury is more serious than what acupuncture can help with.
 
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