Van Jones "We [the democrats are] Screwed. Democrats don't know what to do" 👀

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Basically, progressivism is what people are wanting, not this middle-of-the-road Republican-lite shyt.

Also, folks need to stop bytching in threads "Wah I got called MAGA." First comments folks got nothing to say. Goddamn, Van made a cogent point without any of the p*ssyfooting nonsense. What gets folks called MAGA is a lot more than a comment or two, its a pattern. Starting to get as annoying as the "BOTHSIDER" call out threads with the butthurt.
That's why Dems losing

Who wants moderation when the Repulicans are unhinged and say what and do exactly what they want with their chest
 

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That's why Dems losing

Who wants moderation when the Repulicans are unhinged and say what and do exactly what they want with their chest
Im convinced most of the people in here didn't watch the video or didn't comprehend it. It's a right-leaning channel and the gist of his point was not just about defending the status quo but also not rocking the boat too much and turning off a bunch of the country.

He 100% means white people. Progressivism is more popular but reductives turn it into LGBTQ and immigrants and ignore everything else. If Democrats tailor their message to "working class" people, aka white people, and leave out fighting for folks rights, we have two Republican parties. Folks don't know what they want, they just don't want whats going on and copying the right's strategy ain't it.
 

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Nah Democrats hot ass and need to do better. Fuk a status quo.

Our ancestors and great great grandfather's went through way worse. What's going on now is people finally opening up their eyes instead accepting bread crumbs.
All the republicans care about are wealthy people. Period. Everything else is them maneuvering or posturing on how to get policies that really only benefit wealthy people passed. When they destroy the department of education regular everyday people who aren't wealthy will be hurt. When they guy Medicaid regular people will be hurt.

The democrats at least understand to an extent you have to look out for normal people.
 

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Look at what not voting for democrats gets you. Pure chaos. The democrats would have kept the status quo going which is better than what we have. Now we got the Supreme Court lost for a generation ramming all sorts of BS through stripping people of their rights and worse.

That’s my logic. I never needed Kamala or Biden to save the world. I just needed them to keep the country stable. Trump is pure chaos. I question the mental state of anyone who was so apathetic that they’d think it’s not a big deal that Trump won. He’s clearly unfit. I think a lot of these bothsiders/MAGAs are doing real bad out here. Real bad. I get it. I was fukked up at one point but I never wanted the country to burn out of revenge.
 

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Leader explains to his army xyz will get us killed in battle

Democrats charge in with xyz, lose again and attack their leader
 

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Basically, progressivism is what people are wanting, not this middle-of-the-road Republican-lite shyt.

Also, folks need to stop bytching in threads "Wah I got called MAGA." First comments folks got nothing to say. Goddamn, Van made a cogent point without any of the p*ssyfooting nonsense. What gets folks called MAGA is a lot more than a comment or two, its a pattern. Starting to get as annoying as the "BOTHSIDER" call out threads with the butthurt.
Democrats are due for a tea party moment. The progressives need to get in that ass and force them to change by taking up all the publicity and energy while also shytting on the elites of their party for not backing them up.

They're scared of the blowback though so I understand the hesitation. You can see it when AOC is interviewed and she tried to gently skate around the question of why her superiors in the party are fukking stupid.
 

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That’s my logic. I never needed Kamala or Biden to save the world. I just needed them to keep the country stable. Trump is pure chaos. I question the mental state of anyone who was so apathetic that they’d think it’s not a big deal that Trump won. He’s clearly unfit. I think a lot of these bothsiders/MAGAs are doing real bad out here. Real bad. I get it. I was fukked up at one point but I never wanted the country to burn out of revenge.
We gotta accept that a good portion of the country is just lost. They're never going to wake up and come together and seize power for the greater good or everyone They'll just listen to propaganda like Fox News and do what they're told and think how they're told to think even if that stuff isn't in their best interest.

I think it's past time people stop pretending like those people can be reached and swayed by democrats. People acting like things need to get worse before they can get better are dead wrong. Things will never get better in the first place. They'll either stay close to the same or get noticeably worse. You kinda have to pick which of the two you find more acceptable.
 

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Problem is Democrats want equal rights for everyone and everyone is too impatient they’re not getting their’s.

White people think Republicans have their best interest.

Main problem is people don’t understand the long game and want to cut corners at the expense of another group getting something.

Everyone is too selfish now everyone who isn’t wealthy is getting screwed.
 

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I don't like Trump or Elon, but their actions do not have any immediate bearing on my livelihood. The Biden Kamala administration was effecting my childs livelihood
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Dont know who this is but yea they are.
They want to go more moderate aka diet maga instead of fighting and doing what their actual base wants.

They so p*ssy. I changed my voter party affilation to independant
 

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As someone who semi politically active in Houston, especially in improving mass transit options and accessibility getting support from state and national Dems is next to nil. Local Democrats are supporting our efforts but it feels like we are in island for advocacy and trying to make change. If this is happening in Houston, I can summize it is happening everywhere. The MAGA and ultra right political system is amazing in cultivating and supporting micro media influencers, community leaders, and activists. Democratic party is very slow, unresponsive, and out of touch. MAGA also know how to attract media to causes.

Dems need to pull not push policies. Right now with these ill-advised and poor tarriffs, de-emphasis on public health, and poorly planned government cuts can prove
that MAGA and right wing populism simply doesn't work.

Dems should create their own 2025 project that revolves around the crisis of home prices, accessibility/transportation, and health care that is realistic and implementable. Trump is worse than Biden in that he's actively ignoring inflation and cost of living crisis. Dems need to see what's happening and create a public blueprint to tackle the needs.
 
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