Van Jones: "Donald Trump is smarter than all of us"

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Not a Trump supporter. I've just read about all of these people. I've read The Audacity of Hope, The Art of the Deal, and Smart On Crime. If you take the time to read about these people, you can understand why they do what they do. Trump hasn't changed since he was in his 20s. He's been the same bombastic showman for over 50 years. Obama is a shrewd politician with a disarming veneer; that's what CACs in Washington hated the most about him. Kamala is too ambivalent and that's why her ceiling will always be lower than other Democrats. Just read about them instead of assuming a person falls into one or another camp.




I wasnt talking about Obama or Kamala, Trump Jr isn't a media darling and JD Vance fukks people's couches! They not like their daddy/ master Trump that has decades of exposure and have MLM books.
 

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I wasnt talking about Obama or Kamala, Trump Jr isn't a media darling and JD Vance fukks people's couches! They not like their daddy/ master Trump that has decades of exposure and have MLM books.
I'm not talking about a succession plan. My point is that you don't need any of Trump's cronies to be a MAGA leader. Just like Mitch McConnel doesn't need to be Ronald Reagan to try and enact Reaganomics. MAGA is now bigger than Trump and his circle. Tariq Nasheed or Joe Rogan could be the next MAGA person.
 

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They're not even out of touch, or dumb, they just didn't want to believe the level
They're not even out of touch, or dumb, they just didn't want to believe the level of schadenfreude the Republicans arw willing to go through. Trump is a cult. Rogan is a cult. Musk is a cult. Christian evangelicals have placed Trump right below Jesus. I've never seen thus level of idolatry from so called Christians in my life. They are being told that Trump is the savior. It's a fight if rational, and intelligent people, versus fear mongering and othering. This was and is a slow destruction of the West by outside forces and agitators. Absolute Manchurian candidate shyt.


Yeah,if they arent out of touch,they are definitely dumb then. Because i dont know how you can pretend to be blindsided at this point. It was cultish in 2016,they took over the capitol in 2020 to deny the election. How can we say they "didnt want to believe":mjlol:?


If thats the case youd have to admit the Dems are complicit. I get what you mean about "bleeding heart liberals" being naive and having faith in the people and system. But that cant possibly be an excuse going up against the man they claimed was Red Headed Hitler:respect:
 

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Smart is knowing the truth and telling the truth and that aint trump (or jones). White supremacy brainwashed people into believing white people or more than what they are and better than what they are.

Trump been rich, spoiled, bailed out and propped up his entire life and that is how we got here. The game is rigged so the rules are different for people like trump. They get bailed out and saved when they fail and people act like they accomplish everything off merit alone.
Always telling the truth might be the dumbest piece of advice I've ever heard
 

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Calling people like Trump, Musk and G.Bush dumb constantly is starting to look like a form of cope
How dumb can these guys be if they are constantly out maneuvering their opponents and manipulating millions all while acquiring massive gains in both wealth and power
People like to boil it down to them being born rich and white but even for that cohort these dudes are massively successful. Can't keep underestimating your enemies while they continually rack up win after win
":camby:he ain't even a good player he just shoots 3s and plays solid defense"
 

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Not a Trump supporter. I've just read about all of these people. I've read The Audacity of Hope, The Art of the Deal, and Smart On Crime. If you take the time to read about these people, you can understand why they do what they do. Trump hasn't changed since he was in his 20s. He's been the same bombastic showman for over 50 years. Obama is a shrewd politician with a disarming veneer; that's what CACs in Washington hated the most about him. Kamala is too ambivalent and that's why her ceiling will always be lower than other Democrats. Just read about them instead of assuming a person falls into one or another camp.





I think it's stupid to not credit these people with being smart. You don't get to where they are by being dumb. All of them have gone to Ivy League schools and are masters of industry and law. Discounting all of that because you don't like them is naive.

Exactly. I told nikkas to read Art Of The Deal and you can already imagine how that went:mjlol: but you get it. You can learn so much about mindsets and mentalities through a book

But this thread, like many threads and posts on the Internet show how addicted nikkas are to coping their way through defeat
 

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I tried to tell thecoli liberal loyalist years ago,and political guru isnt even my second or third greatest strength.


So it really didnt take a rocket scienctist to figure out. They tried to convince me mainstream media is actually the right wing:mjlol:

The Dems have had the mainstream media for years,especially when you include t.v and movies. Because liberal views and agendas are also pushed through those platforms as well.



But the Republicans have clearly locked up social media and have bigger social media personalities. Dems failed to calculate that mainstream news and streaming services, Cannot compete with a device that people hold in their hand and stare at 24/7. It really was a no brainer,Dems are just stupid. And yes,the idea that Republicans are supposed to be the old out of touch party,and Dems are supposed to be the party of the youth,makes it even more embarrassing:mjlol:


Maybe it shows Dems need to stop perpertrating that fraudulence. How about letting the old guard die,and ACTUALLY letting the youth takeover. Those 40 and 50 year olds you have strategizing for you as your think tank arent young. Just young in relation to the other old geezers:respect:

excellent post, I think the Dems have a problem with SM platforms because they want to set agenda and control/censor discourse more than the Republicans do on that type of platform. The TV allows you to do that, which is probably why Dems like it and you can make it a reward/ punishment deal. SM anything can go viral and your agenda can be questioned by all.
 

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Nothing wrong with acknowledging your enemy is smart.

Thats what’s wrong with most. Assuming that because someone is on the opposite side of the fence as you, that that means they’re dumb or low IQ. No wonder yall get blindsided so much


By the way in Malcolm X own autobiography he called the white man highly intelligent

The dude wanted to inject bleach and nuke hurricanes :dahell:
 

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excellent post, I think the Dems have a problem with SM platforms because they want to set agenda and control/censor discourse more than the Republicans do on that type of platform. The TV allows you to do that, which is probably why Dems like it and you can make it a reward/ punishment deal. SM anything can go viral and your agenda can be questioned by all.


The other problem is what social matters do Republicans really stand for that can be used to upset people on a dail basis? Dems have trans,trans kids,abortions,immigration,diversity/"replacement theory".


Dems really only have abortion,but most women arent "champions" of abortion. Alot of women THINK they wont ever be one of those women who goes to the clinic. So trying to excite women with abortion,thinking they will champion it just to have the option for later use is flawed imo. I believe alot of women dont think they will need that option or would ever use it. So its not on their mind like that.


And of course you have good ol racism. This is obviously the Dems go to move,to incite its voter base by pointing out Republican racism.


But Republicans have basically programmed non blacks to be tired of all the racism talk and "wokeness". So Dems leaning into that on social media,is only going to alienate alot of non blacks. And black people were already frustrated with the empty pandering since 2016. After being let down and the first black president not having the impact we thought.


I would say the Dems need to completely overhaul and replace old guard with youth,newcomers and outsiders entirely. But some of these young liberal leftist seem so nutty,I dont know if that could easily be a disaster lol. Dems are cooked if they cant win black people back over:respect:
 

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She is a populist who speaks for the base. I don’t think she could win the presidency but she is the true heir to Pelosi and should be running the democrats in the house from behind the scenes even if Jeffries is the actual house speaker he should be consulting AOC.

AOC lost the House Steering and Policy Committee vote today to a 74 year old btw
 
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Well he's clearly smarter than the sheep... And if the sheep vote him in, he's clearly smarter than the other wolf, who probably told them he'd build them a barn...

Cause the wolf on the sign was SMART enough to learn what voters wanted to hear and did that... While the other one was busy being too smart for his own good and ignoring the simple rules of the game.... WIN
You raise an interesting point and show the fallacy of their (Democrat party shill) position. They presuppose that the leaders of their side aren't wolves or at least some type of predator that wants to consume the sheep. Even if they see their leaders as shepherds, they forget one thing. Shepherds are human and humans are the most conniving predator that nature has ever produced.
To use the Malcolm X quote:
"The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox."

Hmm!? Kamala Harris reminds me of the fox that Malcolm X talked about.
 

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And the Dems can't beat him. A wonder how smart they are. lol
This is where I keep coming back to

At the end of the day he has won 2 out of 3 elections despite never being in politics before.

He beat a more qualified opponent the first time despite saying Grabbing them by the pussies

He beat a Vice President despite being a convicted felon.

The Dems run brain dead election campaigns and continue to get outflanked by Trump. If he is a bumbling idiot then what are they?
 
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Why did Trump win?

Because Democrats assumed Americans are smarter than they actually are.

Republicans haven't spent 2 generations fukking up education for no reason. They don't want critical thinkers. Most Dem voters...if you asked them "why" they voted Kamala, it came from a place of pragmatism. They didn't see her as a savior, but they understood what another Trump presidency meant....and that it would be bad for 98% of Americans (can we say tariffs).

Most GOP voters outside of anti-abortion folks....couldn't tell you one thing about how Trump makes things better...outside of repeating Fox or Peter Thiel's handcrafted talking points.

Dems are like books. Republicans are like smart phones.

Modern people have zero attention span for books. Dems need a progressive populist message that's simple and easy to understand....then hammer it home. You can't win on gender/race issues because Mexicans and uneducated whites immediately tune out on anything deep. You gotta keep it simple for them. Dems = more money, more (good) jobs and more freedom (Robin Hood); GOP = bad guy who wants to steal your money and give to the rich (Sheriff of Nottingham).
 
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