Van Jones: "Donald Trump is smarter than all of us"

[O.Red]

Now is the wolf smarter than everybody else or the sheep just stupid?

This is incongruent with my point

A more accurate representation would be if you take more than half of those sheep and have them agree. The wolf also has to win the election and have all three branches of government on his side

And yes if the wolf, in spite of every attempt to prevent him from winning an election still wins overwhelmingly, guess what??? The wolf is fukkin smart Does acknowledging this mean I like the wolf? No and it's a shame I have to even clarify that

And you still didn't answer my question. If Liberals/Dems are so much smarter than everyone else, why aren't they using that superior intellect to find ways to win instead of confirmation bias'ing themselves into "We're so smart" dopamine highs

 

[African Peasant]

Trump is smart.

The way he toyed with the Dem during the campaign shows it. He understands what a large chunk of this country wants and he gives it to them.

He also was able to manoeuver inside the Republican party and to survive a defeat.

He's clearly a political animal. Hillary and Kamala hands were too short to box with him/

On some WWE shyt, I would've loved to see a Trump VS Obama campaign.

 

[Wild self]

Trump is smart.

The way he toyed with the Dem during the campaign shows it. He inderstands what a large chunk of this contry wants and he gives it to them. It's a form of intelligence

So when Trump is gone, what gonna happen to the GOP?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Nothing wrong with acknowledging your enemy is smart.

Thats what’s wrong with most. Assuming that because someone is on the opposite side of the fence as you, that that means they’re dumb or low IQ. No wonder yall get blindsided so much


By the way in Malcolm X own autobiography he called the white man highly intelligent

You're wrong. Malcolm used "intelligent" to describe the white man's capacity for oppression, manipulation, and maintaining systems of inequality. It was a critique, not praise or admiration. Does that sound familiar? And it's not that Trump is particularly "smart," it's that people can be amoral, ignorant, or easily drawn to anything that validates their grievances, even lies. Look at how he's already backtracking on his promises, and yet no one seems to care. Y'all gotta stop invoking Malcolm in these conversations, especially if you're going to misread of his words, because his critiques were about confronting brutal systems, not running interference for them.

 

[African Peasant]

So when Trump is gone, what gonna happen to the GOP?

That's a BIG question.

 

[O.Red]

You're wrong. Malcolm used "intelligent" to describe the white man's capacity for oppression, manipulation, and maintaining systems of inequality. It was a critique, not praise or admiration. Does that sound familiar? And it's not that Trump is particularly "smart," it's that people can be amoral, ignorant, or easily drawn to anything that validates their grievances, even lies. Look at how he's already backtracking on his promises, and yet no one seems to care. Y'all gotta stop invoking Malcolm in these conversations, especially if you're going to misread of his words, because his critiques were about confronting brutal systems, not running interference for them.

You're the one interpreting it as praise and admiration. This is the problem. The emotions are making y'all project and assume

 

[Pazzy]

 

[Wild self]

That's a BIG question.

Cause these Trump impersonators and even Trump Jr are to the GOP. A lot of them outright said that once they gotten Trump, they can't take a watered down version of him or an impersonator version of him, because they all sound forced and not authentic.

Once Trump dies from a health issue or gets bodied by a former MAGA member of his, the fallout gonna be .

If you thought that the MTG vs Laura Loomer was messy, that will be a daily occurance for the GOP post Trump.

 

[O.Red]

So when Trump is gone, what gonna happen to the GOP?

JD Vance is being groomed and he has a lot in his favor

 

[BrothaZay]

You're wrong. Malcolm used "intelligent" to describe the white man's capacity for oppression, manipulation, and maintaining systems of inequality. It was a critique, not praise or admiration. Does that sound familiar? And it's not that Trump is particularly "smart," it's that people can be amoral, ignorant, or easily drawn to anything that validates their grievances, even lies. Look at how he's already backtracking on his promises, and yet no one seems to care. Y'all gotta stop invoking Malcolm in these conversations, especially if you're going to misread of his words, because his critiques were about confronting brutal systems, not running interference for them.

Show me the excerpt of the book. Simple.

You’re another dude in his feelings. Let me ask you, are there any racist or right wing ppl you thinc are intelligent? Or even smarter than you ?

 

[Unbothered]

When did this man become a Trump stan ?

I don't know much about Van Jones, but I'm pretty sure he was very much a liberal/left supporter but, out of nowhere, became a Trump/Conservative nut-hugger back in 2020 or so...

I sometimes wonder if he's trolling with shtick lately.

 

[AngryBaby]

This isn’t something I’m about to argue about. Any man who can’t admit an enemy may be smart is too emotional for me to take seriously

Is that how you read that? Simpletons make blanket statements, intelligent people can give detail. I gave you detail as to what they are better at; but actually more intelligent overall? No, the beliefs systems aren't based on critical thinking.

So what did you do in this thread? Give blanket statements, non detailed ones that nobody learns from. Like a stereotypical negro? Or did you give detail like me?

Try to make black people look less dumb please.

 

[African Peasant]

Cause these Trump impersonators and even Trump Jr are to the GOP. A lot of them outright said that once they gotten Trump, they can't take a watered down version of him or an impersonator version of him, because they all sound forced and not authentic.

Once Trump dies from a health issue or gets bodied by a former MAGA member of his, the fallout gonna be .

If you thought that the MTG vs Laura Loomer was messy, that will be a daily occurance for the GOP post Trump.

They don't have anyone to replace him. Don Jr is clown; Vance has the charisma of a door lock.

 

[O.Red]

They don't have anyone to replace him. Don Jr is clown; Vance has the charisma of a door lock.

Don't sleep. Vance has enough charisma and his life story is essentially a movie and will carry him a very long way

Vance, like Trump, also has big tech on his side

 

[AngryBaby]

This is the "no true Scott's man" fallacy.

You are redefining smart because it makes you uncomfortable to admit it. Google the definition of smart and notice how being quick witted is part of the definition. It directly describes the behavior you cited in your post.

Whatever the hell he is doing, he certainly did it better than everyone else in the country.

He did that shyt twice. I would completely agree with you if 2016 was a fluke, but this guy rigged the entire system around him the second time. It reminds me of the Reagan maps from the 1980s election. Recall that The democratic party has hundreds of PhD social scientists, political scientists, policy writers, etc and none of those people could defeat trump's strategy. And keep in mind Trump is known to ignore telepromters, speech writers, and ananalysts when he approaches poltics and it keeps working.

I gave you the exact specifics of what they did well, you essentially reinforced what I said. But you are asking for an undetailed, blanket "they smart" type of assessment, and no...thats not really what's going on.

Not when you don't know how tarrifs work, not when you don't believe in science, not when you're religious minded abd believe in race science unironically

An example of an intelligent person is say...Neil degrasse tyson, now put Trump in a room with Neil, and would Trump be able to win any debate, convince, or charm Neil in any fashion? No. Meaning Trump relies on the manipulation of *other* special types of people. The less informed. The easy to manipulate. The ones not versed in psychology or social dynamics

Also, Trump won like in 2016 merely because of a fracturing of the democratic base. Less turnout, and far left non voters that didn't vote because ofGaza, or just uninspired to do so. Like Bernie supporters in 2016.

I warned about that shyt prior to the election, that if we lose, it's because of the Hasan pikers, and non voters. The fracturing of the base.