USPS Crisis: Postmaster General slowing mail & in contact with Republican Party officials!

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You ducked the first question. Why does it NEED to be profitable? I'm all for cutting needless government spending, but the Post Office provides a valuable service to every citizen at an affordable cost and free of free market concerns. And it does so at a relatively low cost to the taxpayers. There are several other more expensive and pointless government services to pare down. Voting by mail, passport services etc. shouldn't be handled by private industry.

There is currently nothing stopping private industry from trying to compete with the post office in rural areas. If they thought there was money to be made they'd already be doing so.
It needs to be profitable/self sustainable because its service is no longer valuable enough to justify tax payers carrying it... and nothing suggest postal services will be increasing in value going forward. Hence why they want to add banking.

It has a govt enforced monopoly on the majority of its services, and is still going under... maybe it shouldn't have cost so low.
:yeshrug:

As for the other stuff... it looks like Dems are already trying to get voting apps off the ground.:lolbron:
I'd also prefer Amazon to ship my passport so I can track it every step and receive text alerts/emails with photos at every checkpoint.:mjgrin:
Get with the times man.


 

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It needs to be profitable/self sustainable because its service is no longer valuable enough to justify tax payers carrying it... and nothing suggest postal services will be increasing in value going forward. Hence why they want to add banking.

It has a govt enforced monopoly on the majority of its services, and is still going under... maybe it shouldn't have cost so low.
:yeshrug:

As for the other stuff... it looks like Dems are already trying to get voting apps off the ground.:lolbron:
I'd also prefer Amazon to ship my passport so I can track it every step and receive text alerts/emails with photos at every checkpoint.:mjgrin:
Get with the times man.


What exactly is this opinion based on? How exactly are you quantifying that? Again if postal services were profitable in rural areas the private industry would already be there. If you get rid of the Post Office you're conceding those communities will have an even less "valuable" service if they have anything at all.
 

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What exactly is this opinion based on? How exactly are you quantifying that? Again if postal services were profitable in rural areas the private industry would already be there. If you get rid of the Post Office you're conceding those communities will have an even less "valuable" service if they have anything at all.
Its against the law for private industry to deliver to mail boxes and p.o. boxes.:russell:This make sit impossible to tell where they would or wouldn't be and govt subsidizing this service would be cheaper than running a postal service.

If my opinion wasn't the case, there wouldn't be a proposal to begin postal banking... we'd just pay the cost every year because its "worth it". Neither side is saying that.
Both sides have stressed the need for it to be self sustaining.
 
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Its against the law for private industry to deliver to mail boxes and p.o. boxes.:russell:This make sit impossible to tell where they would or wouldn't be and govt subsidizing this service would be cheaper than running a postal service.

If my opinion wasn't the case, there wouldn't be a proposal to begin postal banking... we'd just pay the cost every year because its "worth it". Neither side is saying that.

It's not against the law to deliver to people's houses right?:russell: And I'm pretty sure private mailbox services are a thing that already exists.:dahell: I mean DirecTV manages to put a satellite on the roof of half the country. Is it also illegal for a private company to sell/plant a private box on someone's land with the owner's permission?:sas2:
 

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It's not against the law to deliver to people's houses right?:russell: And I'm pretty sure private mailbox services are a thing that already exists.:dahell: I mean DirecTV manages to put a satellite on the roof of half the country. Is it also illegal for a private company to sell/plant a private box on someone's land with the owner's permission?:sas2:
:francis:Its illegal for anyone but the post office to deliver letters...and only the US Postal Service has access to the millions of mailboxes across the country; that makes the Postal Service a monopoly.

Classic gov. make something illegal for everyone but themselves, then saying we are the only ones doing this... you need us.

Is it also illegal for a private company to sell/plant a private box on someone's land with the owner's permission?:sas2:
yes.:mjcry:
 
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:francis:Its illegal for anyone but the post office to letters...and only the US Postal Service has access to the millions of mailboxes across the country; that makes the Postal Service a monopoly.

Classic gov. make something illegal for everyone but themselves, then saying we are the only ones doing this... you need us.


yes.:mjcry:

Interesting points. My main concern with privatizing is it feels like a case of "if it's not broke, don't fix it". I'm not really bothered by the current costs (tiny fraction of the budget) and worry that if it were privatized we would get a worse quality of service at a higher cost. Just feels like a way for the right to play to their big business brand with something that we would probably wind up subsidizing to keep afloat. And while I don't personally live in a rural area hard to see how they wouldn't get completely screwed by this.
 

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Trump Threatens To Block Aid For US Post Office If It Does Not Raise Prices


President Donald Trump on Friday threatened to block federal aid for the U.S. Postal Service unless it raises shipping rates for online companies like Amazon.com, prompting criticism that the move would hurt consumers relying more than usual on packages during the coronavirus outbreak.

The president has long accused the post office of charging too little for packages, saying that deliveries for Amazon and others cost the service money. Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post newspaper, which Trump has accused of unfair coverage of his administration. "The Postal Service is a joke. Because they're handing out packages for Amazon and other internet companies, and every time they bring a package, they lose money on it," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. "The Post Office should raise the price of a package by approximately four times." The president also accused post office officials of being "very cozy" with big online merchants.

With the U.S. Postal Service slated to run out of money this summer, the U.S. Congress authorized the Treasury Department to lend it up to $10 billion as part of an earlier $2.3 trillion coronavirus stimulus package. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said his team was meeting with post office officials "and actually, we are going to put certain criteria for a postal reform program as part of the loan."

Trump told Mnuchin at the event he would not support aid unless the postal service raised its rates. "If they don't do it, I'm not signing anything and ... I'm not authorizing you to do anything," Trump said. Later on Friday, Trump said: "I will never let our Post Office fail. It has been mismanaged for years, especially since the advent of the internet and modern-day technology. The people that work there are great, and we're going to keep them happy, healthy, and well!"
 
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