Using ochestral programs for hip-hop: does it work?

[VerbalIntercourse]

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I made everything here using various symphonic VSTs. I want to have an organic sound, so even the drums are library kits rather than simple drum samples.

Does it work?

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

guess it doesn't.

 

[Kaydigi]

Yes it works, there are no fukking rules in hip hop homey.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Yes it works, there are no fukking rules in hip hop homey.

Now that I listen to it again. I don't think hip-hop would go well with it at all.


there are rules to hip-hop. You can't make a rap beat with an odd meter. like 5/5, or 7/7. You can't have an inconsistent tempo either.

 

[Kaydigi]

Now that I listen to it again. I don't think hip-hop would go well with it at all.


there are rules to hip-hop. You can't make a rap beat with an odd meter. like 5/5, or 7/7. You can't have an inconsistent tempo either.

So you would have walked up to Rick Rubin, JMJ or Marley Marl and say hey you can't sample that drum break?

Rza yo after you speed up the samples you have to pitch them back down to make Enter The 36th.

Or tell the Roots,they can't rap behind a live backed band for 15 years.

Or present day.., hey Luger writing hats at 1/32 in succession with different velocities is a dumb idea?


Dude there are no rules, practice your craft and make it own :kanyeshrug:

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[VerbalIntercourse]

So you would have walked up to Rick Rubin, JMJ or Marley Marl and say hey you can't sample that drum break?

Rza yo after you speed up the samples you have to pitch them back down to make Enter The 36th.

Or tell the Roots,they can't rap behind a live backed band for 15 years.

Or present day.., hey Luger writing hats at 1/32 in succession with different velocities is a dumb idea?


Dude there are no rules, practice your craft and make it own :kanyeshrug:

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None of that is in a 5/5 or 7/7 meter. And none of that has a tempo that is inconsistent.

MF Doom has that beetles sample song (Tick Tick i think it was called), but that is about as close to what i'm talking about.


For example. listen to this.



Anyone with a classical knowledge will instant recognize that sample. That's from Mozart, and it has a very weird meter in the original piece. But Eric Sermon chopped the sample to fit a 4/4 meter.

I don't think that Mozart sample will work if it is used without chopping. It's simply too hard to rap or sing over a complex meter.

 

[EatingGoodNow]

What exactly is 5/5 and 7/7?

 

[Kaydigi]

None of that is in a 5/5 or 7/7 meter. And none of that has a tempo that is inconsistent.

MF Doom has that beetles sample song (Tick Tick i think it was called), but that is about as close to what i'm talking about.


For example. listen to this.

EPMD ft Redman - KIM - YouTube

Anyone with a classical knowledge will instant recognize that sample. That's from Mozart, and it has a very weird meter in the original piece. But Eric Sermon chopped the sample to fit a 4/4 meter.

I don't think that Mozart sample will work if it is used without chopping. It's simply too hard to rap or sing over a complex meter.

So you talking about sampling or original production in your original post. We could list 10,000 tracks with orchestra samples.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

What exactly is 5/5 and 7/7?

Five beats per measure or 7 beats per measure

Take 5 is the most well known piece with a 5/5 meter



Here is a rock song with a meter that changes throughout the song.



that will never happen in hip-hop

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

So you talking about sampling or original production in your original post. We could list 10,000 tracks with orchestra samples.

I made everything in my original post. that was entirely my creation. No samples.

My intention is to make an entire 2 minute piece with a hip-hop beat. Sort of like "A 5th of beethoven" from the 70's.

 

[EatingGoodNow]

Five beats per measure or 7 beats per measure

Take 5 is the most well known piece with a 5/5 meter

Take 5 - YouTube

Here is a rock song with a meter that changes throughout the song.

Converge - In Her Blood - YouTube

that will never happen in hip-hop

Wouldn't that be 5/4 or 7/4 though? I gotta brush up on some theory. I am off on other times sigs that are not 4/4 or 6/8.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Wouldn't that be 5/4 or 7/4 though? I gotta brush up on some theory. I am off on other times sigs that are not 4/4 or 6/8.

You're right. 5/4

it's not a fraction, which is what i was thinking when I wrote that.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Late Registration breh

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Late Registration breh

wasn't that all samples?

 

[Tom Foolery]

is 5/5, 7/7 possible?