UPDATE: Trump Impeached for Inciting Insurrection

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According to Ayanna Pressley's staffers, they ripped out all the panic buttons like they knew where to find them.



The fact that this means that it happened BEFORE the riots means that she absolutely was one of the intended targets in all of this. :merchant: That's absolutely terrifying. She wouldn't have been able to call for help if she had needed it.
 

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He's not being charged for sedition. :mjpls: The article says those charges were being upgraded based on him bringing a weapon. these people still aren't being charged with SEDITION (20+ year charges) to properly reflect the gravity of what they're doing.

And he's the highest profile one aside from Bull guy. :francis: im not convinced, sorry.

We've been here before. "Look he's being charged with_____! :gladbron:"

We've seen that excitement be left to be forgotten while this system pretends to charge tough for optics, then silently downgrades charges to wrist slaps when media attention is lessened. There is a precedent there. Hit me when duke is actually going to jail for them numbers. i doubt he does 10 even now


I learned from the 2010s. Showmanship bluff charges arent moving me. Tag me when they've all been rounded up , hit with sedition charges and actually sent to jail on proper sentences.

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Again, the charges are on-going. The Feds have said this about 10x at this point.

And Amber Guyger got 10 years.

Amber Guyger gets 10-year murder sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean - CNN

Now, if you want to argue she should've gotten more I agree. But this situation is not remotely the same.

She's a white woman cop that killed a black man. Those cases rarely go how they should.

These are (admittedly, white) people that ran up in the U.S. capitol where 5 people died.

The two things you're comparing are not even in the same ballpark.

And (this isn't necessarily aimed at you) people keep moving the goal post. First it was "no consequences" and "only a year?!"

Now it's "but there's no sedition charges (specifically, never mind the fact that most of the charges were upgrade to terrorism)" and "I bet he won't do the 11 years!"

Which again, ignores the fact that this situation is developing daily. Hourly, even.

Fred.
 

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Again, the charges are on-going. The Feds have said this about 10x at this point.

And Amber Guyger got 10 years.

Amber Guyger gets 10-year murder sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean - CNN

Now, if you want to argue she should've gotten more I agree. But this situation is not remotely the same.

She's a white woman cop that killed a black man. Those cases rarely go how they should.

These are (admittedly, white) people that ran up in the U.S. capitol where 5 people died.

The two things you're comparing are not even in the same ballpark.

And (this isn't necessarily aimed at you) people keep moving the goal post. First it was "no consequences" and "only a year?!"

Now it's "but there's no sedition charges (specifically, never mind the fact that most of the charges were upgrade to terrorism)" and "I bet he won't do the 11 years!"

Which again, ignores the fact that this situation is developing daily. Hourly, even.

Fred.
Man nobody saying it isn't a developing situation. And yes the "goalposts" are moving, nothing has fukking happened to these people yet.

I'll have to say the quiet part out loud: I'm black. My black ass has watched/read decades of american history where soft shoeing law enforcement has emboldened racial/right wing political violence. It doesn't happen by accident: Republican aligned people are more likely to be in law enforcement and most courts.aka the people in charge of sentencing who have historically overcharged & undercharged black & white people respectively. you're trying to convince a bunch a black people to have faith in a justice system that has done nothing but fukk us. Sorry, nobody here is willing to hold their breath for that one.

Of course we're being cynical. These people have gotten away with this shyt for decades and 70 million of our countrymen are sympathetic to their cause. Law enforcement and several politicians were directly a part of this coup. We're hinging our bets on a much more likely event of a miscarriage of justice. Plenty of precedent for it.

I doubt ever rioter is going to get a liberal female judge named Erin. I doubt every sentence is handed out when the entire world is paying attention. We've seen how shyt goes when these novel/unprecedented factors arent in play. We'll see. I'd welcome being wrong in this case

Burden of proof is on them. Hit me when they throw that book
 
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It wasn’t just southern cacs who participated . These racist terrorist are all around the country
Exactly

That’s why I put south in quotes

That’s what they mean by the “south” will rise again. The southern ideology the confederates were fighting for is limited government interaction. With limited government intervention they can keep only Christian white males rich by enacting state laws that put down all other people and specifically keep blacks subservient.
 
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I'm going to make a new thread that simply outlines some of the most concerning things about this whole situation posted in here to emphasize them because they can get lost in the general discussion.

I got work today, but I know I'm barely getting shyt done, so I got some time today. People need to be aware of how dire the situation is. Especially black folks if these people are successful. Not hyperbolic to say these people are trying to start the Fourth Reich essentially.
 
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