UPDATE 1/18: TikTok OFFICIALLY SHUTS DOWN IN the United States, sends message saying DONALD TRUMP WILL SAVE US to 170 MILLION AMERICANS

[Mike809]

is it going offline as soon as the clock hits 12 ?

 

[Illuminatos]

An app that's full of free knowledge, free expression, free tutorials, and people making real money will always be a problem to those who'd rather have u influenced by celebrities.

This is literally every single social media app/popular website lol.

 

[bnew]

It’s not free speech issue. You just can’t speak on that platform. Y’all n***as will be fine.

the ACLU and multiple legal scholars would disagree.

ACLU Slams Supreme Court TikTok Ruling | American Civil Liberties Union

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court issued a major blow to freedom of expression online today by refusing to block legislation that will effectively ban...

www.aclu.org

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court issued a major blow to freedom of expression online today by refusing to block legislation that will effectively ban TikTok in the United States beginning this Sunday, January 19. The decision will impact more than 170 million Americans who use the social media platform and will endanger the constitutional rights of every American to speak and receive information online.

“The Supreme Court’s ruling is incredibly disappointing, allowing the government to shut down an entire platform and the free speech rights of so many based on fear-mongering and speculation,” said Patrick Toomey, deputy director of ACLU’s National Security Project. “By refusing to block this ban, the Supreme Court is giving the executive branch unprecedented power to silence speech it doesn’t like, increasing the danger that sweeping invocations of ‘national security’ will trump our constitutional rights.”

Under the First Amendment, the government must meet an extraordinarily high bar to ban an entire communications platform. It must show that the ban is the only way to prevent serious, imminent harm to national security, and that the ban limits no more speech than necessary to accomplish that purpose. As the ACLU noted in its amicus in support of TikTok, the government has not come close to meeting that standard.

Absent last-minute action by Congress or the president, starting January 19, TikTok is likely to disappear from app stores in the U.S. and existing U.S. users will probably lose the ability to update the app on their devices, at the very minimum. However, President Biden or President-elect Donald Trump could grant TikTok an extension under the law or direct the Department of Justice not to enforce the ban. This week, Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) also introduced a bill that would give Bytedance, the Chinese parent company of TikTok, more time to sell the app.

“Taking away Americans’ free speech rights does not make us safer; it endangers our democracy,” said Jenna Leventoff, senior policy counsel at ACLU. “The next administration must immediately work with Congress to fix or repeal this flawed legislation. No one should be stripped of their ability to express themselves, especially on a platform that brings together such an immense, vibrant collection of voices from around the world.”

TikTok Inc., et al. v. Garland (Amicus) | American Civil Liberties Union

The Supreme Court will decide whether a law that effectively bans TikTok in the United States violates the First Amendment rights of more than 170 million Americans who use the social media platform. The law also allows the President to ban other foreign-owned apps deemed a national security...

www.aclu.org

Summary​

In April 2024, Congress passed the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act. Although the law is styled as a requirement that TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, sell the social media platform to an approved buyer, it is functionally a ban on TikTok. The Act provides that if TikTok is not sold within the timeframe specified by Congress, it will be unlawful for app stores in the United States to distribute, maintain, or update the platform.

TikTok, ByteDance, and a group of TikTok creators challenged the ban in the District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals on May 7, 2024. They argue that the law violates TikTok’s and its users’ First Amendment rights by shuttering a unique speech platform. TikTok also argues that by unfairly singling out a single platform for adverse treatment, the law violates its Fifth Amendment equal protection rights. The government has defended its effort to ban TikTok by citing concerns that the Chinese government might direct ByteDance, which is headquartered in China, to covertly manipulate the content that U.S. users view on TikTok or might demand access to Americans’ sensitive data collected by the app.

The D.C. Circuit upheld the law on December 6, 2024, and TikTok, ByteDance, and the TikTok creators filed emergency applications for a temporary injunction with the Supreme Court on December 16, 2024. The ACLU, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), and the Knight First Amendment Institute filed an amicus brief in support of an injunction the following day. On December 18, 2024, the Supreme Court granted certiorari and set an expedited schedule. The parties filed their briefs on December 27, 2024, and the ACLU, EFF, and a larger group of partner organizations filed an amicus brief the same day.

As the ACLU and its partners explain in their amicus briefs, under the First Amendment, we all have the right to speak freely and to receive information from others. To ban an entire communications platform used by tens of millions of Americans, the government must meet an extraordinarily high bar: It must show that the ban is the only way to prevent serious, imminent harm to national security, and that the ban limits no more speech than necessary to accomplish that purpose. But the government has not put forward actual evidence of impending harm—only speculation about what might occur—nor has it shown that banning TikTok is narrowly tailored to address its concerns. The government’s invocation of “national security” does not lessen its burden under the First Amendment. To the contrary, history has shown that courts must be vigilant in the face of broad claims that national security requires trampling on Americans constitutional rights.

We urge the court to strike down the ban on TikTok and to protect the First Amendment rights of more than 170 million Americans who use the social media platform to communicate, learn about the world, and express themselves online.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A587/335380/20241217144322392_24A587%20TikTok%20v%20Garland%20Amicus%20Brief%20pdfa.pdf

EFF Statement on U.S. Supreme Court's Decision to Uphold TikTok Ban

Shutting down a communications platform or forcing its reorganization based on concerns of foreign propaganda and anti-national manipulation is an eminently anti-democratic tactic, one that the US has previously condemned globally.

www.eff.org

We are deeply disappointed that the Court failed to require the strict First Amendment scrutiny required in a case like this, which would’ve led to the inescapable conclusion that the government's desire to prevent potential future harm had to be rejected as infringing millions of Americans’ constitutionally protected free speech. We are disappointed to see the Court sweep past the undisputed content-based justification for the law – to control what speech Americans see and share with each other – and rule only based on the shaky data privacy concerns.

The United States’ foreign foes easily can steal, scrape, or buy Americans’ data by countless other means. The ban or forced sale of one social media app will do virtually nothing to protect Americans' data privacy – only comprehensive consumer privacy legislation can achieve that goal. Shutting down communications platforms or forcing their reorganization based on concerns of foreign propaganda and anti-national manipulation is an eminently anti-democratic tactic, one that the US has previously condemned globally.

what do you think free speech is?

First Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

Amendment I​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

A lot of small businesses saw boosts from marketing on TikTok and the algorithm is way better than any other platform so you actually get content that is catered to your liking

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

let's also not pretend the US isnt feeding people propaganda. black people here think africa is a bunch of mud huts. only after they see it for themselves do they realize what bullshyt CACs are feeding them here. Billionaires own news media and control narratives; so much so that you can't even criticize Trump at WAPO and journalists protesting get called cringe on CNN.

Remember when you was spreading propaganda about FEMA during hurricane Helene and Milton?

 

[bnew]

No but it gives the Chinese communist party full access to all your Information in your phone. For example service members can be tracked to their locations which is a huge OPSEC issue. Any potential vulnerability the person has can and will be exploited. The CCP plays the long game. They have no issues grooming people from a young age to exploit them further into their careers. The rise of China is on the back of stolen American technology and indormation. The fact that people think their free speech is protected by China is crazy. China allows what benefits China.

the solution is to ban service members from using those apps, not to ban americans not affiliated with the military from using an app/service they enjoyed.

I haven't seen anyone claim their free speech is protected by china, but it's apparent to many that some speech is acceptable to china's censors that would be otherwise unacceptable to content moderators and the algorithm in the U.S. so they're using the best tool to get the job done

<insert country> allows what benefits <insert country>.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

AOL Chat
Black Planet
MySpace
Facebook before it became a retirement home.
Tumblr
Instagram before it became an AI testing ground
Vine
Thriller
Musically
TikTok

We’ve played this game already, they’ll be depressed for a week and then go somewhere else.

Bluesky, Fanbase, Spill and Neptune got next.

Facebook went downhill once hood nikkas got on it

 

[Kenny West]

the ACLU and multiple legal scholars would disagree.

ACLU Slams Supreme Court TikTok Ruling | American Civil Liberties Union

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court issued a major blow to freedom of expression online today by refusing to block legislation that will effectively ban...

www.aclu.org

TikTok Inc., et al. v. Garland (Amicus) | American Civil Liberties Union

The Supreme Court will decide whether a law that effectively bans TikTok in the United States violates the First Amendment rights of more than 170 million Americans who use the social media platform. The law also allows the President to ban other foreign-owned apps deemed a national security...

www.aclu.org

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A587/335380/20241217144322392_24A587%20TikTok%20v%20Garland%20Amicus%20Brief%20pdfa.pdf

EFF Statement on U.S. Supreme Court's Decision to Uphold TikTok Ban

Shutting down a communications platform or forcing its reorganization based on concerns of foreign propaganda and anti-national manipulation is an eminently anti-democratic tactic, one that the US has previously condemned globally.

www.eff.org

what do you think free speech is?

First Amendment

www.law.cornell.edu

Amendment I​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Attributing a social media app's existence to your free speech is nasty work. That app would ban your ass in a heartbeat if you started posting Xi Jinping Winnie the pooh memes.

Social media apps are private platforms/businesses. They can literally censor you at will but nikkas crying first amendment when they get regulated for different reasons.

It's like if a guy hung out with his friends at McDonalds every day, then when the McDonalds got shut down for FDA violations they start crying their free speech is being violated. shyt is dumb

 

[bnew]

Reddit?

It was founded by Americans
Its headquartered in America
It's majority owned by Americans
It's public traded on the US stock Exchange

reddit has a shareholder based in china, he basically listed china owned companies and stakeholders.

Reddit raises $300 million from Tencent at $3 billion value

Last week TechCrunch reported that Reddit was raising $150 million from Chinese tech giant Tencent and up to $150 million more in a Series D that would

techcrunch.com

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

the solution is to ban service members from using those apps, not to ban americans not affiliated with the military from using an app/service they enjoyed.

I haven't seen anyone claim their free speech is protected by china, but it's apparent to many that some speech is acceptable to china's censors that would be otherwise unacceptable to content moderators and the algorithm in the U.S. so they're using the best tool to get the job done

<insert country> allows what benefits <insert country>.

Or opps don’t need data on almost 200 million Americans. It’s a legit national security threat. Donald Trump actually kicked this shyt off. When Biden got into office he looked into it and agreed and put it in motion to get these folks banned or sold to the US. With all the petty fighting that goes on in our political system, everyone agreed on this. That says a lot. Just because people enjoy and app don’t mean they should have the right to use it. This has nothing to do with military and everything to do with almost 200millon American citizens having their data in the hands of a Chinese government. Of course we do the same thing, but why would we allow our long time enemies to do this? nikka I hate this country and I fully support this shyt

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

No but it gives the Chinese communist party full access to all your Information in your phone. For example service members can be tracked to their locations which is a huge OPSEC issue. Any potential vulnerability the person has can and will be exploited. The CCP plays the long game. They have no issues grooming people from a young age to exploit them further into their careers. The rise of China is on the back of stolen American technology and indormation. The fact that people think their free speech is protected by China is crazy. China allows what benefits China.

Our data is sold by data brokers to whoever wants it.

The real issue is that our government is upset that people weren't sucking up to Israel and crying for a dead CEO

 

[bnew]

YouTube exists

and the people rejected it.

 

[Traveler]

the solution is to ban service members from using those apps, not to ban americans not affiliated with the military from using an app/service they enjoyed.

I haven't seen anyone claim their free speech is protected by china, but it's apparent to many that some speech is acceptable to china's censors that would be otherwise unacceptable to content moderators and the algorithm in the U.S. so they're using the best tool to get the job done

<insert country> allows what benefits <insert country>.

You think Chinese spying is limited to the US military? LOL

 

[bnew]

Or opps don’t need data on almost 200 million Americans. It’s a legit national security threat. Donald Trump actually kicked this shyt off. When Biden got into office he looked into it and agreed and put it in motion to get these folks banned or sold to the US. With all the petty fighting that goes on in our political system, everyone agreed on this. That says a lot. Just because people enjoy and app don’t mean they should have the right to use it. This has nothing to do with military and everything to do with almost 200millon American citizens having their data in the hands of a Chinese government. Of course we do the same thing, but why would we allow our long time enemies to do this? nikka I hate this country and I fully support this shyt

are you under the impression people don't know their data might be sent to china?

why not advocate instead for a warning label in the app store about the data being sent to the CCP and what that might entail? could it be because a lot of people don't care and would use the service anyway?

I say offer an alternative and let people make their own choices.

the government refuses to regulate the data collection practices of these companies and wants to target a single one when the danger exists with all of them.

 

[Double Burger With Cheese]

are you under the impression people don't know their data might be sent to china?

why not advocate instead for a warning label in the app store about the data being sent to the CCP and what that might entail? could it be because a lot of people don't care and would use the service anyway?

I say offer an alternative and let people make their own choices.

the government refuses to regulate the data collection practices of these companies and wants to target a single one when the danger exists with all of them.

nikka we done here lol