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Lol you fukking right I hit up the zone. I remember when it first opened up they played rave music only. A cheerleader at Southern took me there and she put me on jiggas for the first time. Then they turnt that hoe until the teen spot then it was a wrap. That hoe use to go down in there.

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jiggas, breh you just took me back

That teen spot brehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:russ::russ:


Breh you are a true BR nikka, I was there in that hoe when it jumped off as a teen club LMAOO:russ:


Breh....I'm in tears LMAO
 

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"Preme can't be touched he's the King of New York. 50 Cent is doing the same shyt he used to do on South Jamaica. Talking allot of bullshyt, only the homies aren't around to question his bullshyt.

All of Preme's competition still respected him. It was Rudolph Giuliani who has the mobs & the other dons locked up. His competition isn't after Preme their after Giuliani. Only a few people know the Preme & Giuliani connection. Basically Preme has financed Giuliani's whole career & in exchange Giuliani gave Preme protection from the feds. He kept the feds off of Preme & focused the government on taking Preme's competition out. Now that Giuliani isn't mayor anymore he can't really protect Preme like he used to.
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Source = old poster who used to post on a murder inc forum that I use to visit frequently around 05-07. He claims to be best friends with Black Jus Colbert Johnson brother, and that he grew up under the Supreme team. He also had a ton of stories about 50, and a bunch of other queens shyt, and Ja rule's music career. I've never been able to corroborate majority of his claims, so I never really cite him anywhere, since I value facts. However, the depth of detail that he provides when he posted about certain subjects was always fascinating to me, so I'v always kept them saved in hope that one day I could verify some of what he stated as true.

Actually, he did attempt to instantiate some of his claims. Ex, he once alleged that Ja, Nas, and Fat joe were working on a group project between 02-03, and he listed some tracks to back his story up.

"First off no ones going to Def Jam. Gotti is going to Atlanta after releasing Exodus & Collectibles. Fatal, Harry-O the future, Newz & Rule will take over Atlanta.

Plus Ja, Nas & Fat Joe started working on an album back in 2003. But the 50 Cent invasion made Fat Joe back out of the album.

Now Fat Joe, Nas & Ja have beef with 50 so Nas is maybe gonna go over to Atlanta & their gonna put the album out.

1.Half A Mil On YO' Head (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, Fat Joe & Nas (Produced by Irv Gotti & Dat nikka Reb)

2.Keep Bustin Back (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, Nas & Fat Joe (Produced by Chink Santana & Dat nikka Reb)

3.After Life (Unreleased) - Fat Joe, Nas & Ja Rule (Produced by Salaam Remi & Dat nikka Reb)

4.Never Take Me Alive (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, Nas & Fat Joe (Produced by Dat nikka Reb)

5.Industry Beatdown (Unreleased) - Nas, Fat Joe & Ja Rule (Produced by 7 Aurelius & Dat nikka Reb)
"

Obviously people wanted something more tangible to verify his story, so he got in contact with one of the producers(Dat nikka Reb) and got him to send his Disco over to strengthen his claim about a Ja, Nas and Joe group.

"My homeboy told Dat nikka Reb a while back to make a keep a list of every song he ever produces & he did. This is an exclusive ist that Reb gave to Black Jus II who e-mailed it to me. Now I'm presenting it to you. The list will also be on Blood Money Entertainment's Murder INC & New York Gangsta Rap website that's comming real soon.

Dat nikka Reb Discography
Released
We Don't Give A fukk - DMX (featuring Jadakiss & Styles) (Taken From Flesh Of My Flesh, Blood Of My Blood)
Killed A Man - Mic Geronimo (Taken from Long Road Back)
Fly High - Mic Geronimo & Ja Rule (Co-produced by Jimi Kendrix & 7 Aurelius) (Taken from Long Road Back)
fukk you - Ja Rule feat. 01 & Vita (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Taken from Rule 3:36)
I Can't Wait - O.D.B. (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Taken from nikka Please)
We Murderers Baby - Ja Ryule & Vita (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Taken from Murderers)
How Many Wanna Die - Ja Rule (Co-produced by Irv Gotti & Lil' Rob) (Taken from Murderers)
We Gettin High Tonight - Black Child (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Taken from Murderers)
Crime Scene - Dave Bing, Black Child, Ronnie Bumps, Caddillac Tah & O-1 (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Taken from Murderers)

Unreleased
Slippin' Into Darkness (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, DMX, Jay-Z (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Group ALbum)
Look Into My Eyes (Unreleased) - DMX, Ja Rule & Jay-Z (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Group ALbum)
Terrorizer - AZ (Unreleased)
Firm's Theme (Unreleased) - Nas, AZ, Nature & Foxy Brown
Take It In Blood (Unreleased) - EVE feat. Styles P, Jadakiss & Ja Rule (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Ruff Ryder's First Lady)
All Or Nothing (Unreleased) - Fat Joe (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Jealous Ones Still Envy)
Bump Heads (Unreleased) - Rakim (Co-produced by 7 Aurelius & Chink Santana) (Outake from OH MY God)
All My nikkas (Unreleased) - Cam'ron, Mase & Harlem World (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from S.D.E.)
Thug Passin (Unreleased) - Cam'ron & Charli Baltimore (Co-produced by Lance 'Un' Rivera) (Outake from Confessions of Fire)
Kedamean (Unreleased) - Cam'ron, O.D.B. & Ja Rule (Co-produced by Darrell 'Digga' Branch & Irv Gotti) (Outake from Cam'ron Murder INC Demo)
Life Or Death - Ali Vegas (Unreleased)
Steel Bedz (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, O-1 & Jody Mack (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from CMC)
Major Rap Figgaz (Unreleased) - Jay-Z & Criag Mack
Certified Gangstaz (Unreleased) - kurupt, Ja Rule, Shade Sheist & Nate Dogg
Murda Muzik (Unreleased) - Benzino, Hussein Fatal & Black Child (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Redemption)
Neva Surrenda (Unreleased) - Bizzy Bone
Don't Sleep (Unreleased) - Crooked I, Eastwood & Ja Rule (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Half A Mil On YO' Head (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, Fat Joe & Nas (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Keep Bustin Back (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, Nas & Fat Joe (Co-produced by Chink Santana)
After Life (Unreleased) - Fat Joe, Nas & Ja Rule (Co-produced by Salaam Remi)
Never Take Me Alive (Unreleased) - Ja Rule, Nas & Fat Joe
Industry Beatdown (Unreleased) - Nas, Fat Joe & Ja Rule (Co-produced by 7 Aurelius)
Ashes To Ashes (Unreleased) - Crooked I feat. Chink Santana (Co-produced by Darrel Vegas) (Outake from Say Hi To The Bad Guy)
Clap Your Hands (Unreleased) - Royal Flush feat. Big Pun & Noreaga (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
West costra Nostra (Unreleased) - Jayo Felony (Co-produced by Tyrone Fyffe) (Outake from Crip Hop)
Till The Death Of Us (Unreleased) - Jayo Felony feat. Ja Rule (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Crip Hop)
Malcome X (Unreleased) - Harlem World feat. Mase (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake The Movement)
Block Lock Down (Unreleased) - Jaz-O, Jay-Z & Sauce Money (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake The Reasonable Doubt)
U Wanna Battle (Unreleased) - Jaz-O (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Put A Hit On Em' (DMX Diss) - Freaky Tah (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake Anther Brotha STuck In Poverty)
Sudden Death (Unreleased) - Freaky Tah feat. Royal Flush, Sauce Money, Tragedy Khadafi & Mic Geroninmo (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Anther Brotha STuck In Poverty)
Real Ruff Rydaz (DMX Diss) (Unreleased) - Freaky Tah (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Anther Brotha STuck In Poverty)
Diamonds Are Fo' Eva (Unreleased) - Freaky Tah feat. Cam'Ron, Mase & Charli Baltimore (Outake from Anther Brotha STuck In Poverty)
Pov City (City of Hardknocks) (Unreleased) - Freaky Tah & Caddillac Tah
Bustin My Gat (Unreleased) - Littles (Co-produced by Jim Kendrix)
Take Me Home Tonight (Be My Lil' Baby) (Unreleased) - Jaz-O, Ja Rule & Ashanti (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Keep It Gangsta (Unreleased) - Lil' Cease (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Change Gon Come (Version 2) (Unreleased) - Ja Rule (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Burry Me Wit A Nine (Unreleased) - Newz, Coke & Maino
nikkaz Acting Like bytches (Unreleased) - Black Child, Charli Baltimore & Ja Rule (Co-Produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Murderers Part II S.D.G.A.F.)
Mash On Haters (Unreleased) - Caddillac Tah, Ronnie Bumps, Black Child & Ja Rule (co-Produced by Chink Santana (Outake from Murderers Part II S.D.G.A.F.)
Last Testimony (Unreleased) - Mic Geronimo
Crookyln Soldier (Unreleased) - Memphis Bleek
MO Money & THe Power (unreleased - Jay-Z (Co-produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Hard Knock Life)
Auto-Matic (Unreleased) Tracey Lee
nikkaz Done Changed (Unreleased) - Lox
Troublesome '05 (Unreleased) - Crooked I, Tha Realest & Ja Rule (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
catch a body (50 Cent Diss) (Unreleased) - Sauce Money (co-Produced by Irv Gotti) (Outake from Middle Finger U)
Wanted Dead Or Alive (Unreleased) - Sauce Money & Jay-Z (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Go To War (Unreleased) - Peedi Crakk
Evil That Men Do (Unreleased) - Darcsyde feat. Ja Rule, Mic Geronimo (Co-produced by Irv Gotti)
Stab Somebody (Unreleased) - Grafh
Bring It Back (Unreleased) - Jay-Z, Ja Rule & Sauce Money
"

Again, none of this can be verified as factual, but I must say the detail provided, and that the released stuff does check out, gave him some iota of credibility with me.
holy shyt...great info
 

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Good to see some fellow Jags on here, BR was extra ratchet when Boosie and Webbie were running around. I didn't get on the yard until 2012 but I've heard many of the same stories.

I was a youngin getting into the Belmont back in those days seems like fights and shootings were a given.
 

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  • Gucci Mane was really pushin serious weight. He put himself on tho by hittin a huge lick and then selling some fake bricks to a nikka that put a price on his head. Had to hide out in Alabama for a couple of months with his cousin who was also a dope boy and started trapping with him for a couple of months until the heat died down. He mentions this in the song Frowney Face along with when he served his secong bid he caught the fade from another nikka who had beef with him in the joint. Gucci then apparently went apeshyt on patna and beat the shyt outta him and had to go to the hole cause of it. Young Scooter who was his cell mate at the time confirmed it.
  • Speaking of Nip, him and his older brother Blacc Sam are some real savages that really put in that work for the set. Nipsey is respected by everyone in his hood, from the OGs to the BGs. He even gets love from Inglewood nikkas (mostly cause Skeme fukks wit him and his baby mama is Nip's sister) but considering LA gang politics thats crazy clout. Blacc Sam is more seen as feared. Idk why specifically tho, I've met him several times and he's a coo nikka about his money but shyt has me wondering:patrice:

Gucci's reputation became sensationalized over the years. He was never a weight pusher, he did hit a few dealers off some weight and he is a legit street cat but nah, the shyt about him being a millionaire before rap or even known as a true dealer isn't true...

Nip and Sam are official in the sense of being certified hustlers, them dudes were some legit earners. Nip from the set and got his hands dirty but he really wasn't regarded as a shooter. Neither was Sam...

Nip's love comes from being an authentic individual, no one has anything bad to say about his character outside, and thats rare, that's some similar type shyt DMX got and most cats don't have that. nikkas knew Nip wasn't a sucka, he could stand on his own but he also wasn't an instigator and didn't look for reasons to beef with people. He showed love and stayed authentic and people respect that...

Him and his brother were true-to-the-core hustlers though...

Rick Ross was a shooter as a youngster he has at least 7 bodies to his name.

I'll say this and I've said it before. I'm not from Florida and have no inside information on Ross whatsoever. But Miami dudes do not shyt on this man's name...

I've really only spoken to two or three dudes over the years who could shed anything on Ross. No one personified him as a shooter so I doubt that, but the general read I have is Ross is similar to the Nip and Sam shyt. He obviously exaggerated his weight but I think its also clear he was really involved in dealing on some level, he's really from a notorious set and people in his area knew him and accept him, and he really affiliated with some livewire cats...

Like I said all the shytting the hip hop public has done on Ross, you've seen minimal of that come from actual Miami heads. Thats an indicator that people know him and he was out there to some degree (though its clear he did build a character to enhance his persona)...

Nas being a shooter:duck:

Man the Nas stories so up and down, hot and cold. There is no consistency with Nas and people latch onto whatever stories fit what they wanna believe about him...

What I'll say is when I was in NY 9-10 years ago I befriended cats from across mostly Queens and Brooklyn and among other rappers, I trust the read dudes gave me on Nas, because within the circle of individuals I knew the general line was consistent. Notwithstanding the fact that I feel like its obvious that Nas doesn't profile as a true blooded street cat, the general line on him was he is a neighborhood cat everyone knew, who affiliated with some gunners, and thru affiliation had some squabbles he was involved in...

No one ever told me Nas was a line presser, a gunner, a dealer, nothing. Just a neighborhood dude people knew who would ride for his boys. No one called him soft either but it used to be just hanging with killers wasn't enough to call you that yourself if everyone knew you didn't have the tax to stand on that...
 

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When you travel you hear stories about rappers all the time but I'll leave it to places I have a closer connection to and more intimate knowledge on:

Sacramento
•Mozzy is really from the turf but was mostly a nobody before rapping. He wasnt known as a hustler or a shooter and we around the same age, his side has some notorious line pushers from our era. He was never regarded as one of them...

Personally I never heard any stories of him getting hoed out either but thats more because he not someone who was outside, never heard of no fights or nothing that are relevant before his rapping blew up. But he's really from OPGB, everybody out there knows him and loves him...

•CML is a bona-fide street dude but he not a real tough guy. Those of us old enough to remember can vouch for the fact that he's been "outside" for a long time, people have known of CML playing the block for damn near 20 years (he's 37 in a few months). He was always a pretty boy about his paper, thats his actual reputation in the streets...

He's been robbed multiple times, has no hands, nikkas have marked him up, this is not a dude that people were like "oh you know he bringing that funk" if you fukked with him. Theres stories of him getting hoed in jail and in prison. The city has a different reaction to him though than Mozzy because we know Lav was really in the streets, people know he really made block money. All the different shyt he went thru he kept hustling his raps and spinning the block, people respect that...

He got older and the Mozzy beef kicked off and he inherited a bunch of notoriety from young heads who don't know much about him when he was younger, so he just a different reputation now. Both these dudes take pride in having sent hits and gotten dudes touched and all that but thats not something that was really in the character or reputation of either one before the Sac rap beef started emulating Street beef...

•C-Bo solid, not a super gangsta, just a super Crip lol. His brother is from Meadowview Bloods and he got a lot of passes back in his era off the strength of his brother who was more known as a factor. But Bo not regarded as a chump, he got his hands dirty and he wasnt some sideline dude....

Virginia Beach
•Pusha T and Mal were legit hustlers in they era. Like most rappers there's some inflation into the numbers they were working with but they were out there with, everybody in the city vouches for their rep...

None if them were into other shyt, they were strictly coke dealers. Not kingpins but they weren't some corner boys. I befriended a dude who used to run directly with Mal at one point. So all the gun talk was just rap stuff but they made a little paper and they did affiliate with other big names getting it in their day too...

Carolina
•everyone in the B$B/South Coast camp is pretty much living a facade...

DaBaby didn't jump off the porch until he hit sophomore or junior year in college and started selling weed packs with his brothers. He came back to Charlotte and was out in the burbs with it. There are accounts of him being in a few fades and everyone says he can really fight, but to this day NO ONE with any real reputation has ever affirmed that this dude ever hit anything in the streets...

They did get fairly successful with the weed, no one calls him a broke ass dusty nikka. Its just no one knows where he was at, all these stories that he tells, theres hoods all over Charlotte like anywhere else. No one has seen him in these neighborhoods, theres no accounts of him having any beef with any real hitters, nothing, although I think there's an acceptance that he may have got into some shyt out in the burbs a couple times. But no one from Charlotte knows him as a shooter or a killer, he was a pretty boy who sold weed who can fight and jumped off the porch late...

•Stunna a Blood but he another dude who was a high school athlete who started rapping, and his rapping and affiliations turned him into this killer. Thats not the line on him...

Toosii was not in the field, not a money getter, just a pretty boy who loved girls. Theres nothing on this dude. I live in Raleigh and to be fair the city fukks with him, apparently he's a really likeable dude. He not in that class though, he's admitted this too, and in Raleigh it definitely isn't hard to notice the cats who really have that stamp, Raleigh is not a city with 1000 killers and bodies dropping every week...
 

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I spoke about that night in the Soulja Slim thread. I was at that show, and I ran into Slim and his ppls in the parking lot and spoke on how he got me in the show for free and shyt.

I remembered him shouting out the South. It was another club or spot I ran into Slim at on, I wanna say Plank Road. The Bar Code was the name of the spot and he performed.

Man the zone was the shyt
 

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I spoke about that night in the Soulja Slim thread. I was at that show, and I ran into Slim and his ppls in the parking lot and spoke on how he got me in the show for free and shyt.

I remembered him shouting out the South. It was another club or spot I ran into Slim at on, I wanna say Plank Road. The Bar Code was the name of the spot and he performed.

Man the zone was the shyt
Whoever got tape of that night on VHS lucky AF. I had bucu tapes of us parking lot pimpin, Bayou Classic, Club Strawberries in Laffy. Totaled my whip and forgot to get the tapes out the trunk before they towed it away :mjcry:
 

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Good to see some fellow Jags on here, BR was extra ratchet when Boosie and Webbie were running around. I didn't get on the yard until 2012 but I've heard many of the same stories.

I was a youngin getting into the Belmont back in those days seems like fights and shootings were a given.
Damn when you got on it was worse. I thought it was bad when I ran thru
 

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Damn when you got on it was worse. I thought it was bad when I ran thru
Breh. I use to dibble dabble back and forth from NO to BR and the Belmont in 97-99 was crucial. I think it closed down or something but that shyt use to be the spot spot.

Them hoes use to be out there. I remembered an incident when a nikka got popped out there and was running on Airline or something. Lol
I think its a video of the dude talking about it.

It went down, that 97-2005 night life in BR was crazy. Some of the best moments of my life I had in that time in BR
 
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Whoever got tape of that night on VHS lucky AF. I had bucu tapes of us parking lot pimpin, Bayou Classic, Club Strawberries in Laffy. Totaled my whip and forgot to get the tapes out the trunk before they towed it away :mjcry:

Man tell me about it. That night was special, that shyt was stupid packed and you know that place is big ass hell.

Man, Breh smh. That club and there was a club I wanna say called Showtime further down the street, brehhhh. Them hoes use to be in that hoe. Didn't make no sense.

But yea breh, that night was crazy. It was some serious nikkas in that building that night. As I said, I pulled up on Slim and his ppls and them nikkas all were on some shyt and that nikka had just touched down too Breh. Smh.

That night was epic. Slim stopped his show and called out them nikkas lol. nikkas had broke Slim down in the back lol

I think he was getting 7,5 for a show so I know some of that 30 he lost was his show money
 

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Breh. I use to dibble dabble back and forth from NO to BR and the Belmont in 97-99 was crucial. I think it closed down or something but that shyt use to be the spot spot.

Them hoes use to be out there. I remembered and incident when a nikka got popped out there and was running on Airline or something. Lol
I think its a video of the dude talking about it.

It went down, that 97-2005 night life in BR was crazy. Some of the best moments of my life I had in that time in BR
What was that hole in the wall club that was on airline that was like an ol heads spot but really undercover swinger joint? I remember they used to be fighting all the way to the streets sometimes:russ:


When I went home recently, I seen they still haven't done shyt with that abandoned hotel on airline either. That place has bodies on it.:picard: and I'm not talking hotel guests. Every record label used to throw parties there and it always embedded up with fights and shootings.
Hell I remember ques and kappas getting kicked off campus because of fights at clubs. Them skating rink parties:blessed:
It was always LSU v us (Southern)
 

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I can't remember what year it was 98or 99 but Southern had cash money and no limit for homecoming @NO-BadAzz can verify this, that's the year that started the Demise of CMR. :birdman:got on stage and kept saying Wayne is the true star of the label, everything gone revolve around him, etc Juvi face was like:aicmon:
The hoes loved Wayne but that shyt damn near had everybody else walk off stage.
 
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What was that hole in the wall club that was on airline that was like an ol heads spot but really undercover swinger joint? I remember they used to be fighting all the way to the streets sometimes:russ:


When I went home recently, I seen they still haven't done shyt with that abandoned hotel on airline either. That place has bodies on it.:picard: and I'm not talking hotel guests. Every

record label used to throw parties there and it always embedded up with fights and shootings.
Hell I remember ques and kappas getting kicked off campus because of fights at clubs. Them skating rink parties:blessed:
It was always LSU v us (Southern)


:mjlol: Breh, talk about bodies in that place, I remember Baby came through and that nikka performed "Still Fly" and left that bytch:mjlol:


Boosie almost got crowed by some dudes out of Glen Oaks, I think one night in that bytch, They were about to beat the dog shyt outta that dude. I was in there that night, and they surrounded around that nikka Boosie, Boosie then yells (the DJ stopped the music at that point when he saw what was happening :russ:) Boosie yells, not nan one of yall nikkas won't touch me, I got something outside for every single one you bytches :russ: He put his arm around Fot Thang neck and walked out that bytch, it was like the Red Sea opening for them nikkas to walk out, and what was so cold about this situation, they played that nikka song as him and Fot Thang were leaving the scene "Head Bussas" :russ:


I couldn't wait to go outside and tell my nikkas about what I had just seen :mjlol: shyt was str8 out of some hood ass movie.

Boosie speaks on the situation in his song Buck Up, I think it was the last verse of that song:russ:. Man I was dying laughing at the shyt


I can't remember that club on Airline, It may be the Zone that we are talking about, I know it was off Airline in that death trap pocket area :russ:
 
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