Yeah thats 1 thing i never respected about pac and never understood how he is cosidered "the realest" by so manyI meean am a massive tupac fan love his muusic to death but some nikkas cant seprate the music from the nikka what pac said n done n his actions were sometimes questonable ...he should have focused all that energy going after henchman that would have been g had he done that..
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Point blank suge loved/loves drama he been getting into shyt since the late 80s all the way until he got locked for his current situations any good suge has done is always over shawed by alll that negatvity im a member at the makaveli -board and have had heated debates due to him been so bias with heron-mob about pac n suge and all the foolery they were doing in 96 cause 95 % ov nikkas on that forum havent got there own opinion or dont want to speak up to get any stick they really are bias most ov them anyway i get alot ov stick on that forum cause am not no bias groupie anyway , he is a good nikka he answeared most my qs on shyt but even he said suge can be a bully, suge just seemed to feed off pacs beefin...
Afromaticz
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Bruh i never took P's book for more than it really was..fiction! Pac really had love for your boy..he really did. And i guess he felt that Big knew that nikkas was about to wet him up and he never told him.now was that true? I dont know! And neither does P.
Big could have reached out when Pac was locked up but the choose not 2.
So Pac starts to hear whispers in jail that his boys Big and Stretch were kickin it with them nikkas that set him up..now i dont know about u but if u claim to be my friend and u continue to chill with them cats that tried to kill me you're dead 2 me. Easy.
Prodigy stated in his book that Pac told Stretch and Money Bags in a jail visit that he was goin at Bad Boy for publicity reasons...and that is bullshyt! Stretch never came to see Pac when he was locked up dont believe the hype my dude. My brother Yak God rest his soul used to visit Pac as much as he could and none of them nikkas showed up.
Pac said in vibe out his
Own mouth stretchs homeboys came to visit him but not stretch homeboys= e money bags etc ..... I personallly think he was doing it for both reasons
i think he had some beef with badboy over loyalty and in the process could make ssome money aswell ... Notice he never went hard at jimmy or jack ... 
Cause they are not rappers and dont respond with lyrics and respond with bullets 
Hence why i personallly feel pac felt he needed to be down with mob for backup againest them
Afromaticz
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Pac said in vibe out his
Own mouth stretchs homeboys came to visit him but not stretch homeboys= e money bags etc ..... I personallly think he was doing it for both reasons
Naw bruh Pac went at Jack and called him a snitch right after the rape charge happened...which was part of the reason why he got disciplined
I know about Suge. Suge been around and worked for J Prince & had connections to some other live cats.
As for feeding of 2pac, i dont think so. I think they basically had the same enemies if you will due to Suge's mans getting killed at the Puff party & 2pac getting into it with Jack & them. Really neither
of 2pac or Suge's enemies were Puff & Biggie, to that level. It was the dudes behind it. Kinda how it is most of the times.
Yup. Was in the Daily News or some shyt right before the robbery. That's part of why 2pac was feeling paranoid about going to the studio already, but he said he needed the money so he went.
Acording to dexter issac it had nothing to do with why he was disciplined
.....Thats my whole issue it " it was the nikkas behind it yet they went at biggie n puffy instead
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
He had to speak on it again because Kevin Powell and Vibe changed names and other info that Pac gave them about the situation. Therefore he had to speak on it again to set the record straight as he originally intended to do with the article in the first place. "Say his name" he had already told Vibe but they took the names out.
Never disputed that Pac shot himself, I simply don't see the relevance of harping on it. I would think that asking questions as to where the surveillance video of the shooting went would be more relevant.first off sounds like you 1 ov these fans tha gobbles up everything pac said like its gospal, tupac shot himself its not even a debate to unbias nikkas .. Greg kading spoke to nypd and the first doctor that treated pac they both were not convinced he was shot 5x , you got it twisted about what i meant by saving face. I mean he lied told the world he was hit 5x then instead ov going at the nikka who actully set him up he went at the 2 easy targets ie big n puffy
Secondly, I have reached some conclusions based off of research that leads me more towards the direction of what Pac said. To say that makes me a fan or anything else based off of that is pretty simple minded, especially when you cant counter the info that I present that leads me in that direction. You are making conclusions based off of evidence you've never seen. You've never seen the doctors report that you keep mentioning. As far as you know it doesn't even exist.
The doctor he went to told him he got shot five times. Not sure why you would say he was lying about that if that's what the doctors told him. I told you before I'll say it again. A doctors sworn affidavit > Greg Kading or even NYPD, neither of which are doctors. If this doctor could be wrong then so could the doctors at the first hospital he went to. But you swear this one is wrong and the other one is right.
Ok then why would nypd lie , why do the orginal doctor lie wen greg spoke to them ...?? What conspiracy bullshyt would they have to lie about it ??
It is relevent pac was telling everyone they shot him 5x he never admited he shot himself Another thing why did stretch say he only herd 1 shot and that it was a self -inflicting wound , dexter issac was 1 ov the nikkas who did the robbery even the outlawz stated in an interview they think he is telling the real 
n guess what ive read his book he said pac shot-himself n that they never shot him at all n that pac was lying , before you say dexter is bias , dexter didnt know pac to like him or hate him he never met him until that night he never spoke badly ov pac other then he felt pac was reckless which everyone thinks anyway dexter cant stand henchman and puffy .......they just beat the shyt out ov pac and pistol whipped him 
another thing do you really think pac would be in court litrally the next morning with 2 shots to the head point blank 
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Michael K Williams and Stretch playing Pac's bodyguards in "Bullet" (which was filmed in 1994) makes so much sense now
Henchmen helped Michael K Williams get into movies (wonder if he got him in The Wire), and Henchmen was probably affiliated with Stretch
Henchmen helped Michael K Williams get into movies (wonder if he got him in The Wire), and Henchmen was probably affiliated with Stretch
Henchman was afflaited with alot ov them nikkas he was deep in the game , i cant wait to see the next episode its pretty intresting ... I always thought growing up suge was the boogie man ov hiphop now am starting to think henchman was the number 1 feared goon in the bizzness it would have been epic had suge in his prime vs a henchman prime war took place shyt would get dangerous with the quickness
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regardless of what you think of P book by all indications and I'm talking about anybody who investigated, anybody who had major knowledge, anybody who was directly or indirectly involved have ALL come to the same conclusion that pac knew exactly what happened and who set it up YET he still blamed biggie
and as I previously stated to you in the other thread months ago... why would biggie reach out to see pac in jail when the vibe magazine interview was done with pac implying biggie/puff & dem and as I told you fab five Freddy who's in this documentary with never heard of recordings was the one who went to biggie and others about that exclusives interview with vibe magazine and the only reason vibe publish pac's accounts verbatim would only due to incrimination / legal issues or even worst criminal acts that potentially may have occured thereafter
and again I can't prove stretch & e moneybags visiting him in jail but that is pretty irrelevant because the main topic of this story is consistent with ALL the other stories (pac knew who did it YET blamed biggie n dem
Yeah i mean like i said ... Biggie n puffy were rappers / ceos ... Pac knew what he was doing going at them instead ov going at jimmy who isnt going to respond with lyrics but that action
.... I agree i dno what was stopping pac wen he was on deathrow ... He finally had a strong enough unit holding him down with suge and the pirus and he still went at biggie n them ... The only thing pac said was " promise payback jimmy henchman" and that didnt even come out until pac was dead ....never once will i say pac wasnt loyal to nikkas who he was around or the heart he had to an extent ... But to be called the "realest " wen he did nothing but talk about the nikka who set him up is
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
Part two has just been added to the first post.