I'm hearing all this UN/ America puppy shyt but I'm not hearing anyone saying who they want to intervene in Haiti instead. Let's go...
United States President Joe Biden pledged to designate Kenya as a major non-NATO ally
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To keep Kenya from being part of the Indo Pacific world. Kenya and Tanzania are slated to have the most economic growth in Africa going forward simply due to their proximity to the indian Ocean.Now I want y’all to ask urself WHY that is
Not really.... Kenya was already slated for massive growth simply due to their location as India and China have ramped up trade along the indo pacific. Kenya and Tanzania act as major hubs in this indo pacific trade. Amrericaa is doing a hail mary rn
Which is good. Maybe they can build that Indian ocean port China was offering to instead of foreign army bases. If Kenya had a Chinese railway to the interior and an American built port that would be the best way to play both. But of course America only ever wants to do military shyt then turns around and asks why we deal with China.
Also Kenya is not simply growing because of location.
These African countries can't PLAY both sides as they dont have the capacity to do so, especially in regards to intelligence capacity (spying, SIGINT etc). Name an African country that has an intelligence service even close to that of Egypt? It would have been African countires getting PLAYED instead of playing both sides. To put it into perspective, the vast majority of CAC spies in Africa were uncovered by the Chinese, literally:
China Used Stolen Data to Expose CIA Operatives in Africa and Europe
The discovery of U.S. spy networks in China fueled a decadelong global war over data between Beijing and Washington.
foreignpolicy.com
Wanna know why America cant play China? This is why:
Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations (Published 2017)
At least 18 C.I.A. sources were killed or imprisoned in China between 2010 and 2012, one of the worst intelligence breaches in decades. Investigators still disagree about how it happened.
2010–2012 killing of CIA sources in China - Wikipedia
America couldn't stop China after this happened. It was a wrap after this. I suspect that this probably contributed to the intelligence community wanting Obama out of the white house.
loyola llothta
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Nobody. Let the Haitians handle the US & Haiti private sector sponsor paramilitary “gangs”
The US military grade weapons are coming from the US. Why no planning or initiatives to stop that. Why not put meaningful sanctions on Haiti private sector & Haitian politicians that got caught trafficking drugs and weapons in the ports
Even in the UN Security Council meetings on deploying foreign forces to Haiti… the US had no clear cut purpose or plan(China & Russia called them out for it ). Kenyan commander in PAP recently said it’s no clear cut plan…
Even the Haitian police is confused with the US-UN plan. Also the US made it some Non-UN mission plan meaning they don’t have to follow the UN guidelines
Now its talks about giving the “gang leaders” in flop flops amnesty like the US did in 90s in Haiti
Edit: 1st the US was trying to get Mexico to led the foreign forces UN mission in Haiti … Mexico opted out
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So Kenya allows itself to be used as a pawn to invade another country. A country of diasporans and their reward is the US's brand of approval.
Sickening.
Sickening.
Basically no alternative. Just watch it burn. I get not trusting the plan but I don't get opposing for no alternative.
Weird shyt. Now it's an invasion. Dudes went from saying Africans don't help brehs to we are foreign invaders.So Kenya allows itself to be used as a pawn to invade another country. A country of diasporans and their reward is the US's brand of approval.
Sickening.
The floor is open to realistic alternative solutions that would be better. I don't hear none
These African countries can't PLAY both sides as they dont have the capacity to do so, especially in regards to intelligence capacity (spying, SIGINT etc). Name an African country that has an intelligence service even close to that of Egypt? It would have been African countires getting PLAYED instead of playing both sides. To put it into perspective, the vast majority of CAC spies in Africa were uncovered by the Chinese, literally:
China Used Stolen Data to Expose CIA Operatives in Africa and Europe
The discovery of U.S. spy networks in China fueled a decadelong global war over data between Beijing and Washington.
Wanna know why America cant play China? This is why:
Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations (Published 2017)
At least 18 C.I.A. sources were killed or imprisoned in China between 2010 and 2012, one of the worst intelligence breaches in decades. Investigators still disagree about how it happened.www.nytimes.com
2010–2012 killing of CIA sources in China - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
America couldn't stop China after this happened. It was a wrap after this. I suspect that this probably contributed to the intelligence community wanting Obama out of the white house.
China bugged the African Union building they donated
and they have their own spies there. Neither side is our friend and we are not stupid. We can pit their interests against them. These global politics threads always have the same slant. Dumb Africans don't know shyt they are too naive always very telling. I have faith in my people. Kenya didn't come up off luck
Now I want y’all to ask urself WHY that is
of course the us is looking to get something out of this.
hopefully the kenyans negotiated well and got good terms for this collaboration
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MANDE KANG
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Now I want y’all to ask urself WHY that is
President Biden suggested on Thursday that the decision to have Kenya lead a security mission in Haiti, without troops from the United States on the ground, was meant to avoid the fraught history of American intervention in the deeply troubled country.
Mr. Biden said the United States would contribute money, logistical support and equipment as Kenya and other nations try to quell the gang violence that erupted there after the assassination of the country’s president in 2021. But in response to a question about why American troops will not participate, Mr. Biden alluded to previous U.S. interventions there.
“We concluded that for the United States to deploy forces in the hemisphere just raises all kinds of questions that can be easily misrepresented by what we’re trying to do,” he said during a news conference at the White House with President William Ruto of Kenya.
NY Times article: Biden Honors Kenya as the East African Nation Prepares to Send Forces to Haiti
I just need you to THINK **Kendrick Lamar voice**
Kenya calls Haiti “cursed” for being Spiritually African. Doing the white man’s Christian colonial missionary army work, repeating history
Of courseI feel as if he's doing this to show up china really...
No doubt shes got a lot of influence
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