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United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Midtown NYC
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How UnitedHealthcare and other mega-insurers came to dominate the $4.5 trillion health care industry that Americans both hate and rely upon
The vitriol following the killing of UHC CEO Brian Thompson exposed Americans’ rage about their health care system. How justified is that rage?
Culture Crave 🍿 (@culturecrave.co)
Her IG https://www.instagram.com/rachelkenaston?igsh=MWdnbWpiZTY2anllbQ%3D%3D An ecommerce lawyer says they would not be able to copyright a word or acronym like 'CEO' https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1868793950913675325
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1/12
Culture Crave
UnitedHealth Group has reportedly filed a DMCA claim to stop an artist from selling merchandise that featured CEO shooter Luigi Mangione
There was no UHG logo on the design, just her artwork
rachelkenaston | IG
2/12
Culture Crave @culturecrave.co
Her IG
https://www.instagram.com/rachelkenaston?igsh=MWdnbWpiZTY2anllbQ==
An ecommerce lawyer says they would not be able to copyright a word or acronym like 'CEO'
3/12
Rafa @nekonoani.bsky.social
It would be so sad if people started flooding these e-commerce websites with countless designs featuring Luigi
I certainly hope people don’t get ideas!
4/12
David Giltinan
@davidgiltinan.com
LOL as if they own Luigi’s name or likeness
This is just straight up censorship and suppression. Nothing more and nothing less.
5/12
Soup @pappisoup.bsky.social
Just skipping the frills and sending the message directly in our faces lol
6/12
Hazel
@ahazelnut.bsky.social
i get why he got shot now
7/12
Icarus @ieyke.bsky.social
Time to turn the DMCA claim into a T-shirt and sell that.
8/12
contralaluna.bsky.social @contralaluna.bsky.social
So can we agree that this is just censorship
9/12
unixorn.bsky.social @unixorn.bsky.social
Why am I not shocked that UHC is abusing the DMCA system to deny someone the ability to make money?
10/12
Christian Mutig @ductos.bsky.social
How is his face *their* intellectual property?
11/12
Ben Walker, AKA Infinite Fury @infinitefury2k.bsky.social
It's not. What's been going around him might have been haunting the people who worked for that CEO tho.
It's like a "Don't say that name" from Endgame type of situation.
12/12
Madd Minotaur @maddminotaur.bsky.social
That's not how DMCA works
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Culture Crave
UnitedHealth Group has reportedly filed a DMCA claim to stop an artist from selling merchandise that featured CEO shooter Luigi Mangione
There was no UHG logo on the design, just her artwork
rachelkenaston | IG
2/12
Culture Crave
@culturecrave.coHer IG
https://www.instagram.com/rachelkenaston?igsh=MWdnbWpiZTY2anllbQ==
An ecommerce lawyer says they would not be able to copyright a word or acronym like 'CEO'
3/12
Rafa @nekonoani.bsky.social
It would be so sad if people started flooding these e-commerce websites with countless designs featuring Luigi
I certainly hope people don’t get ideas!
4/12
David Giltinan
@davidgiltinan.comLOL as if they own Luigi’s name or likeness
This is just straight up censorship and suppression. Nothing more and nothing less.5/12
Soup @pappisoup.bsky.social
Just skipping the frills and sending the message directly in our faces lol
6/12
Hazel
@ahazelnut.bsky.sociali get why he got shot now
7/12
Icarus @ieyke.bsky.social
Time to turn the DMCA claim into a T-shirt and sell that.
8/12
contralaluna.bsky.social @contralaluna.bsky.social
So can we agree that this is just censorship
9/12
unixorn.bsky.social @unixorn.bsky.social
Why am I not shocked that UHC is abusing the DMCA system to deny someone the ability to make money?
10/12
Christian Mutig @ductos.bsky.social
How is his face *their* intellectual property?
11/12
Ben Walker, AKA Infinite Fury @infinitefury2k.bsky.social
It's not. What's been going around him might have been haunting the people who worked for that CEO tho.
It's like a "Don't say that name" from Endgame type of situation.
12/12
Madd Minotaur @maddminotaur.bsky.social
That's not how DMCA works
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The Serfs (@theserfstv.bsky.social)
Dylan Roof killed 9 Black people trying to start a race war. He wasn't charged with terrorism.
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1/20
The Serfs
Dylan Roof killed 9 Black people trying to start a race war.
He wasn't charged with terrorism.
2/20
Sam @pilot2969.bsky.social
It’s only terrorism if the targets were white and wealthy.
3/20
Cutbush @cutbush.bsky.social
This terrorism charge is laughable. Shooting one CEO is terrorism,but shooting up schools is just a weekly occurrence? The ultra wealthy are the fukking terrorists. They have been terrorizing workers and the vulnerable for too long.
4/20
Dissident Love @dissidentlove.bsky.social
Yeah, but now IMPORTANT people are scared. /s
5/20
Dammit Catlord @catlurd.bsky.social
Did those 9 Black persons ever deny you health care and rake in millions for themselves?
That's the difference. Protected classes.
6/20
LeoBred @leobred86.bsky.social
The White community people relishes in its barbarism. Whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.
7/20
TRG @q4nwspunk.bsky.social
Hallmark of MAGA AMERIKKKA
8/20
cece @ceceliberal.bsky.social
THIS THURSDAY - PEACEFUL GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF LUIGI MANGIONE.
~from:mangionecommunity.bsky.social
9/20
TIMOTHY LEWIS HEIST @bigtim06.bsky.social
Yeah… beyond the racial aspects, this is oligarchy enforcing obeyance.
10/20
lo zaloom @lozaloom.bsky.social
i prefer hate crimes change to domestic terrorism crimes as that is what they are.
11/20
Bing @bingo46.bsky.social
Because the DA agreed with him.
12/20
Anna Rompage @annarompage.bsky.social
I don’t belive any school shooter has been charged with terrorism either
13/20
Trickle Down @trickledown.bsky.social
Pretty sure everyone here knows that’s a “feature not a bug” of capitalism
Race war = low wages
Class war = high wages
14/20
Joyful Traveler @dolomitemick.bsky.social
But he was sentenced to death nevertheless.
15/20
squinting at the hellscape @manneefpv.bsky.social
dylan roof wasn't a threat to the ruling corporate elite
16/20
Public Record Sourcerer @publicrecdsource.bsky.social
17/20
nightlunch @nightlunch.bsky.social
were they CEOs
18/20
DrGeophysics @drgeophysics.bsky.social
Outrageous then, outrageous now.
19/20
Hugo Skavez @hugoskavez.bsky.social
This fukking country
20/20
Adult Tattletale Club Fugitive of Bluesky. @ianfukkingkramer.bsky.social
One of these post will get you attention insteadof falling flat one day.
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The Serfs
Dylan Roof killed 9 Black people trying to start a race war.
He wasn't charged with terrorism.
2/20
Sam @pilot2969.bsky.social
It’s only terrorism if the targets were white and wealthy.
3/20
Cutbush @cutbush.bsky.social
This terrorism charge is laughable. Shooting one CEO is terrorism,but shooting up schools is just a weekly occurrence? The ultra wealthy are the fukking terrorists. They have been terrorizing workers and the vulnerable for too long.
4/20
Dissident Love @dissidentlove.bsky.social
Yeah, but now IMPORTANT people are scared. /s
5/20
Dammit Catlord @catlurd.bsky.social
Did those 9 Black persons ever deny you health care and rake in millions for themselves?
That's the difference. Protected classes.
6/20
LeoBred @leobred86.bsky.social
The White community people relishes in its barbarism. Whether they choose to acknowledge it or not.
7/20
TRG @q4nwspunk.bsky.social
Hallmark of MAGA AMERIKKKA8/20
cece @ceceliberal.bsky.social
THIS THURSDAY - PEACEFUL GATHERING IN SUPPORT OF LUIGI MANGIONE.
~from:mangionecommunity.bsky.social
9/20
TIMOTHY LEWIS HEIST @bigtim06.bsky.social
Yeah… beyond the racial aspects, this is oligarchy enforcing obeyance.
10/20
lo zaloom @lozaloom.bsky.social
i prefer hate crimes change to domestic terrorism crimes as that is what they are.
11/20
Bing @bingo46.bsky.social
Because the DA agreed with him.
12/20
Anna Rompage @annarompage.bsky.social
I don’t belive any school shooter has been charged with terrorism either
13/20
Trickle Down @trickledown.bsky.social
Pretty sure everyone here knows that’s a “feature not a bug” of capitalism
Race war = low wages
Class war = high wages
14/20
Joyful Traveler @dolomitemick.bsky.social
But he was sentenced to death nevertheless.
15/20
squinting at the hellscape @manneefpv.bsky.social
dylan roof wasn't a threat to the ruling corporate elite
16/20
Public Record Sourcerer @publicrecdsource.bsky.social
17/20
nightlunch @nightlunch.bsky.social
were they CEOs
18/20
DrGeophysics @drgeophysics.bsky.social
Outrageous then, outrageous now.
19/20
Hugo Skavez @hugoskavez.bsky.social
This fukking country
20/20
Adult Tattletale Club Fugitive of Bluesky. @ianfukkingkramer.bsky.social
One of these post will get you attention insteadof falling flat one day.
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Luigi Mangione Charged With Murder in UnitedHealthcare CEO Killing
A grand jury formally indicted Luigi Mangione in the killing of Brian Thompson, the chief executive of UnitedHealthcare.www.nytimes.com
Manhattan DA's office went with terrorism. Wow. If this is a viable prosecution path, if they are willing to take this swing, Southern District will file similar one.
But on Tuesday, prosecutors said that Mr. Mangione’s actions were “in furtherance of an act of terrorism.” They were, prosecutors said, “intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population” and to “affect the conduct of a unit of government by murder.”
Suspect in Insurance C.E.O.’s Murder Is Said to Face Federal Charges
The nature of the potential charges against Luigi Mangione was unclear, but they could allow federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty.
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'United Healthcare' Using DMCA Against Luigi Mangione Images Which Is Bizarre & Wildly Inappropriate - Above the Law
Because this isn't how copyright law works.
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'United Healthcare' Using DMCA Against Luigi Mangione Images Which Is Bizarre & Wildly Inappropriate
Because this isn't how copyright law works.
By Joe Patrice
onDecember 19, 2024 at 4:02 PM
We KNOW Getty owns this picture though that might not stop UHC. (Photo by Jeff Swensen/Getty Images)
Someone purporting to be United Healthcare is filing DMCA requests to scrub the internet of artists’ depictions of the surveillance video of Luigi smiling, parody merchandise of “Deny, Defend, Depose,” and other merchandise showing the alleged shooter.
If it is really the health insurer filing these notices, it wildly oversteps any legal rights the company might have, but if there’s any company willing to preemptively breach the law and dare the other side to spend their limited resources trying to protect their rights it would be a health insurer.
404 Media reports that a number of DMCA takedown requests from “United Healthcare” have hit artists depicting the newsworthy event. The publication reached out to the company to confirm that it’s behind the filings but didn’t hear back.
For those keeping score at home, the DMCA provides that a copyright owner must inform an internet entity that their intellectual property is being abused and the service provider then has an opportunity to expeditiously remove the material and avoid possible liability. That said, the DMCA only provides a shield against legal action and if the copyright claim is — to use the precise legal term — “utter bullshyt,” they don’t have to comply. Unfortunately, hosts routinely err on the side of caution and remove content when there’s zero cognizable claim.
If this is someone acting on behalf of United Healthcare, what an irony to lodge a falsified claim without it getting denied.
From 404:
It’s a bizarre and grimly ironic turn if United Healthcare wanted to own the words “Deny, Defend, Depose.” The takedown request for that piece objects to the artist styling the “D” with elements of the United Healthcare logo… which would be the very definition of protected parody. The 404 story has images if you want to see what these all look like.
Beyond tying itself to the gunman’s catchphrase, the idea of UHC trying to own any and all fixations of the alleged shooter’s likeness would be a wild leap. An artists’ depiction of Mangione could only belong to the artist (Mangione might be able to assert some rights to his likeness — a dubious claim under the circumstances and in light of the First Amendment — but in no case would UHC have such a claim).
It is illegal to file DMCA notices if you don’t own the copyright (or at least have a good faith belief that you do). The idea that UHC now owns every depiction of the guy accused of killing their employee is laughably frivolous and one hopes that its legal department understands this and these requests are coming from a third party troll impersonating the carrier.
An independent journalist posting a photo of Mangione with his family also received a DMCA request — from a lawyer claiming to represent a family member holding the copyright — even though the image was “originally posted on the campaign website of Maryland assemblymember Nino Mangione.” That site apparently deleted the image and turned around to threaten anyone using it now which is… not how fair use works. But at least this request can claim they have a “good faith” claim, though the system probably shouldn’t reward people for trying to retroactively claim rights after they try to memory-hole their internet history.
But the disturbing thread running through all these requests is how easy it’s become for copyright trolls to leverage the DMCA to intimidate providers into accepting facially invalid requests. The statute has given way to a sort of asymmetrical warfare over IP where bad faith actors can pepper sites with ownership claims and trust that their targets will back down rather than deal with the litigation risk. As 404’s coverage notes, this doesn’t bode well in a country about to inaugurate an administration openly encouraging retribution against journalists in an effort to silence criticism.
This sure looks like a company (and a local politician) trying to use copyright law as a “square peg-round hole” solution to erasing any humanizing or sympathetic depiction of Mangione. And unfortunately, everyone seems to be obeying in advance.
Copyright Abuse Is Getting Luigi Mangione Merch Removed From the Internet [404 Media]
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