Undisputed: UFC 188 Cain Velasquez vs Fabricio Werdum Official Thread

[William Heavy]

Got damn Werdum looked good. Rafael Cordeiro is a damn good stand up coach the way he has guys improving. Werdum picked Cain apart with technical striking, and that thai clinch was very effective in slowing Cain down. Werdum weathered that first round and absorbed some good shots. Cain thought he could take Werdum down and gnp, but Werdum is the last guy you want to take down with that guard game he has.

Cain looked tired as fukk out there. For a guy who's strength is to put a insane pace on dudes and bully them, that was bad. I don't know if he'll ever be what he was. He's getting older, and the Cardio is not going to be at the level he is accustomed to.

at dudes saying Cain is overrated. With the exception of a couple flash Kongo knockdowns where Cain immediately recovered and won an easy fight, and the Junior haymaker, Cain has thoroughly dominated every single guy he has faced. Werdum deserves his props for having the perfect strategy and skill to execute it.

And Jon Jones stans need to chill. Yes he's the greatest LHW, but let the guy fight at Heavyweight first before you start making assumptions that he'll dominate bigger guys. That Gustaffson fight had me thinking maybe beating heavyweights won't be so easy. He handled DC, but all the top heavys are bigger than DC. Besides, he needs to worry about staying out of jail first. The one thing he has going for him is age. By the time he does move up, all the current top guys will be extra

 

[Medulla Oblongata]

Edit.

 

[WhodatWhoadi]

I'm still in shock

wtf was that!?

oh by the way motherfukkers getting negged for the "cain is overrated" talk... that is more pure hate then facts.

I cant get too mad because I like werdum...but damn

 

[Mowgli]

I wish werdum had brought those knees to the body more instead of just going for the ko.

 

[TheLukieBaby]

Okay, so explain it to me, I am not trying to be a jerk I am talking as if I am gameplaning for the fighter I see right now. Cain comes forward square, he looks to get fighters nervous and exert a lot of energy, how does he do this by throwing lots of punches mostly wide to close distance and work you on the fence and then mostly get people to the ground to set up ground and pound.

The reason he lands the most punches landed per round is the exact game plan from above he fought a limited grappler, applied pressure and then got him down and beat on him, most of his strikes come on the ground on the fence or with him closing distance. The record was probably set in the third Dos Santos fight since he was very dominant in that fight. I will try to be nice, but his boxing is okay I watched him spar about a month ago against a high level guy and if it is just striking he has lots of holes, loops punches, doesn't turn hips with punches and bad range of distance are common problems I witnessed though the fighter he was against could have been part of the problem as well. Cain is a decent striker/boxer, but he is not a world class striker, he is a world class grappler and world class fitness cardio guy and tends to take people down or push a pace to out fit people in his division.

What tonight showed was his flaws when he is in the pocket he still slugs, how many times did he make eye contact when he threw punches, not many, right? Most of his punches he blindly swung at his foe while he looked the other way sort of like Danny Garcia against Amir Khan, but minus the good result. Cain's strength is the clinch and grappling his punches are two wide on the inside unless he wears you out, every punch he throws is wide and not that fast.

He wasn't having trouble fighting 'on the inside' he was having trouble since his biggest strength taking someone down and being busy was taken away since Werdum is a better grappler. Cain was trying to apply pressure, what I assume you mean inside box and work from a clinch and for lack of a better word make it ugly. Werdum threw straighter punches that beat Cain to the punch hence why he was cut open in the first round, it wasn't just the altitude it was also that he was getting hit with punches he didn't see that began to take a toll on him. Styles make fights and Werdum is a tough style for Cain, let's just hope that he can stay healthy

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[TheLukieBaby]

Cain is not overrated this is a bad match up for him since he relies heavily on wrestling and conditioning. The only other tricky match up in the division is Travis Browne since Browne has in the past landed elbow (to the back of the head) of fighters on the cage, a place Cain likes to take the fight often.

Cain is still a very good fighter, it is just a match-up problem since Werdum excels at the things Cain usually exploits

 

[JahFocus CS]

That struggle-trash talk at 3:30

While Cormier and Rockhold were big-upping Cain, Cain had a very unenthusiastic look on his face the whole time... like he knew what was coming

 

[puppetmaster]

Gonna have to eat these memes, gifs and photoshops for a while

 

[Don Mack]

I'm actually glad Werdum won. Now we have a champion that actually fights instead of being on the injured list for several years between bouts. I heard Cain fell down the steps and tore his ACL on the way out the arena

 

[JahFocus CS]

I'm actually glad Werdum won. Now we have a champion that actually fights instead of being on the injured list for several years between bouts. I heard Cain fell down the steps and tore his ACL on the way out the arena

I was praying nothing happened as he walked out to the Octagon. So little as a light breeze could injure the breh.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Cormier: "he shouldn't have said that about Cain, he shoulda kept his mouth shut, he shouldn't have said that, he's in big trouble, big big trouble".

Javier Mendez: "cains going to punch him, kick him, turn him upside down, inside out, stamp his passport, revoke it, dap him, undap him"

Hahahaa

 

[Another Man]

Both of them looked sloppy and gross. MMA dudes dont take their conditioning serious at all.

Then again, that's usually the case with heavyweights. They tend to gas quicker even conditioned due to having to move more frame and muscle.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Areola was a champ, nope
Stiverne more recently, nope

You can find fit and unfit on both sides.

Klitscho

@Mowgli stiverne was severely dehydrated

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Cain did the biggest no no a wrestler should do against a jujitsu expert. Double leg take down and starting as high as he did?

 

[The ADD]

Klitscho

@Mowgli stiverne was severely dehydrated

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