Umar Johnson : I believe some Black people will have to go war with the Police-Update Gavin Long

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They are indeed mising the point, but its largely because UJ isn't talking to them.
Thats why you will see simple responses like 'people should stop listening to this man'

They don't grasp that he is expounding ideas of other scholars, historians and leaders both currently and formerly oppressed. Merely trying to help reach an audience that doesn't read Che or follow the politics of how hezbollah or the IRA came to be. These aren't ideas UJ has created, they are consensus amongst acadamia. So he is doing a service to the black populace merely by relaying the ideas to the people, since most would rather skirt the topic altogether.

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It would be tedious to back and forth with you because you apply my quotes spuriously and infer interpretive meaning in place of taking in what is actually written.

I'll explain it to you once more... Very simply. But mostly this isn't for you in particular but for anyone observing that might be confused by your misgivings, however nonsensical.

They negotiated their freedom under threat of mass Violence.

The violence threatened was not India's, but Germany's.

As is the norm for peace activist you are staying well within your predefined non-violent terminology, discussing how India was merely going to use non-cooperation... but have not taken the logical step of analyzing what 'non-cooperation' by a military of 2.5 billion troops means for the citizenry of Britain in the 1940's during WWII. It means 100's of thousands of dead and/or raped Brits, and massive land destruction. i.e. violence. So the threat of violence reigning down on the people of Britain provided the necessary leverage for the enslaved colony to gain its freedom.

Very clear.
Very concise.

Not difficult to understand.

If you think that in 1944, Britain paused in the middle of combating Hitler on European soil during a world war to free a colony it had conquered and enslaved since 1750 for 'economic reasons' then you clearly don't understand geopolitics.

As an aside, if you want to make a WWII thread and tag me go ahead... but a concern in threads like these is always that those with sinister motivation merely want to derail it by means similar to what is happening here. Pulling focus from on-topic discussion.

I'm not in the mood for agent tricks in this thread. India's freedom is already in the well documented.
 
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They are doing that shyt anyway. I swear some smart dumb muthafukkas on here. You really think being scary and kissing thier ass is going to make it stop?

Did you not see what NYPD did after dude blasted two cops? Sorry but all I heard was them easing up. Not shooting every black on sight.
Then strap up and go at em then.

Log off and go get real.
 

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White people only understand one thing.

Violence.

Umar Johnson is 100% right.


Umar Johnson kind of predicted in the video

its crazy, I just posted that video a few days ago, and now, yesterday, we had a black man killing cops

just like Umar said in the video, he doesn't want to see anybody on either side die

but he, like many people, realize that it was bound to happen...

violence is and always has been the answer
 

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do you REALLY think this would turn out well?

this would give EVERY cop a reason to shoot on sight.

you right about one thing, the mindset will change, but not in a positive way.

You seem to forget that they're already shooting on sight on camera. :stopitslime:

We start getting agitated and incidents like Dallas occur in numbers, its going to shake alot of people out of the scared, praying negro mindset. It takes serious shyt to change decades of conditioning, and like history has shown as precedents, violence against oppressors is often that catalyst.

We have nothing to lose from conflict than what we have already.
 

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You seem to forget that they're already shooting on sight on camera. :stopitslime:

We start getting agitated and incidents like Dallas occur in numbers, its going to shake alot of people out of the scared, praying negro mindset. It takes serious shyt to change decades of conditioning, and like history has shown as precedents, violence against oppressors is often that catalyst.

We have nothing to lose from conflict than what we have already.
No, out of the thousands of interactions everyday, cops are NOT shooting on sight Stop buying in to that bullshyt.

The media is getting everybody all riled up and making it seem like every black person is getting killed, and in danger. It's bs.

So sure, go ahead, do something stupid and ruin your life.

The very very very small minority of ppl that interact with the police actually have a problem.
 
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