ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Bye Boris 
UK Politics Thread 🇬🇧
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Tribaligenesis
All Star
Ding Dong! The prick is gone
Scandal after scandal after scandal. The straw that broke the camel's back was a gay whip called Pincher you liked to grope men and got caught.
Nobody needed to be letting Johnson near ANY fridges this week.
Thank fukk someone finally got through his thick fukking skull.
Wanted to be Churchill, barely got past Neville Chamberlain.
Looking at that, I feel like he was just hanging on the last few days to ensure he beat Chamberlain
You're catching up to Australia. We have had 7 PMs since 2010. Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, (both Labor) Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison, (all Conservative) now Albanese (Labor). Morrison is the only one who served out a full term
everyone else got knifed in the party room within the 3 year election cycle
Trajan
Veteran
You're catching up to Australia. We have had 7 PMs since 2010. Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, (both Labor) Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison, (all Conservative) now Albanese (Labor). Morrison is the only one who served out a full term
I just remember Rudd, Abbot and Morrison out of that list.
I just remember Rudd, Abbot and Morrison out of that list.
Gillard knifed Rudd, who was the incumbent, and won the 2010 election. Then Rudd got her back in 2013, but he lost the election to Abbott. Abbott then got knifed by Turnbull in 2016, and he won the election too. He survived one party room vote in 2019, but then there was another one like 2 weeks later and Morrison got the nod (after pledging his undying loyalty to the party leader in the previous vote just 2 weeks earlier). And then he won the election and managed to hang on for an entire term, until the elections a couple of months ago.
Not to mention, when the conservatives were the opposition to the Rudd Labor government, Turnbull was the leader of the opposition for like 2 months, and he got knifed by Abbott in 2009. It's been endless fukkery in Canberra for the past 12 years
is this a function of the Conservative Party specifically or is Labour similar?Gillard knifed Rudd, who was the incumbent, and won the 2010 election. Then Rudd got her back in 2013, but he lost the election to Abbott. Abbott then got knifed by Turnbull in 2016, and he won the election too. He survived one party room vote in 2019, but then there was another one like 2 weeks later and Morrison got the nod (after pledging his undying loyalty to the party leader in the previous vote just 2 weeks earlier). And then he won the election and managed to hang on for an entire term, until the elections a couple of months ago. It's been endless fukkery in Canberra for the past 12 years
Labor (for some reason we spell the party without the u, American style, even though we spell the noun with the u in everyday usage) settled down after the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd leadership spills. They spent 2013 to 2022 in opposition and they were the much more stable party in that time, with Shorten leading the opposition unchallenged from 2013 to 2019 (he stepped down after losing 3 consecutive elections). Then Albanese took over and nobody has challenged him... yet.
The conservative party is a coalition between the Liberal Party (they're pretty much your classic Tories, laissez-faire, pro big-business, anti-union, pro-privatising state owned assets etc.) and the National Party (who are a rural, country party, they're pro-fossil fuels, climate change skeptics, etc.) It's an uneasy alliance because there is a socially progressive but fiscally conservative wing of the Liberal Party (championed by Turnbull when he was the leader of the party), which obviously clashes with the Nationals. And now there's factions in the Liberal Party as well. There's that socially progressive one as I mentioned, against a fundamentalist religious Pentecostal faction (led by Morrison), a Trump/Johnson style idiotic populist faction (led by Abbott), and a fascist faction led by the new party leader Peter Dutton. They're intrinsically much more unstable because they've got all these forces fighting against each other. The same party coalition has pro and anti-climate change advocates, pro and anti-transgender/homosexual rights advocates, pro and anti-immigration advocates, etc.
The reason they lost this year's election is that the Turnbull faction's base is very strong in the inner-city, upper-class seats that are the traditional strongholds for the Liberal Party. Most of those voters abandoned the party and voted for Independent MPs - many of those independents were former Liberal Party members who also left the party because they didn't like the religious fundamentalist faction which was ruling the party at the time through Morrison.
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DreadBrown
Feed the children
Blair is the only PM in our life time who lasted a full term
Cameron resigned after brexit
Trajan
Veteran
You're not counting 2010-15?
ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
UK politics is depressing. Well politics in general, but the UK is in particularly bad shape rn. Theres nobody you would want to lead the country. Its just a bunch of careerists trying to make a quick buck. Half of them can't wait to retire and write some shytty book.
DreadBrown
Feed the children
Oh yeah you right
This has all been fun and games, but the reality is, one c*nt has gone, and another will step up to replace him.
The only way things can change is with strong opposition to win an election and Labour are a directionless mess, now even drifting right to win back the voters that left them.
Depressing, really.
The only way things can change is with strong opposition to win an election and Labour are a directionless mess, now even drifting right to win back the voters that left them.
Depressing, really.
It's the same the world over. It struck me when I saw all the praise Zelensky got for staying in Kiev back at the start of the war, instead of doing a runner. That's when I realised that in these times, a leader who does the bare minimum - not abandoning your country and fleeing to safety in a crisis - is such a change from the norm that we have to celebrate him for it.
You can bet that if it was an English-speaking country (except maybe New Zealand), our PMs and presidents would be the first to get on the planes flying out