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TheAlbionist
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Could pay for it all by stopping about 5 rich c*nts leaking all their money to the Cayman Islands.
There is never a good reason for poor people to pay for problems created by the rich.
Too busy funnelling millions to the Balkans to achieve "attitudinal change" and "train" russian journalists
Sarah Everard: Met commissioner under fire over policing of vigil
Not sure if anyone heard about this?
Woman was murdered by a police officer who was under investigation for indecent exposure a few days ago. There was a vigil in Clapham and the police actually tried to break it up.
The MET must have lost their motherfukking minds.
Not sure if anyone heard about this?
Woman was murdered by a police officer who was under investigation for indecent exposure a few days ago. There was a vigil in Clapham and the police actually tried to break it up.
The MET must have lost their motherfukking minds.
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Sarah Everard: Met commissioner under fire over policing of vigil
Not sure if anyone heard about this?
Woman was murdered by a police officer who was under investigation for indecent exposure a few days ago. There was a vigil in Clapham and the police actually tried to break it up.
The MET must have lost their motherfukking minds.
nothing to do with the MET. it's english character.
Feel free to explain
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the entire society is laced with the same callousness. the tick to "abuse power". that's everywhere and not just related to the MET.
be it their heroes (churchill, henry 8th etc), football hooligans, politicians, authoritarian creep, disregard for the majority of the population (etc) while pretending to be the opposite.
pretend soft on the outside and hard as nails within.
the spiritual home of lassez faire capitalism, the class system, entrenched privilege, no constitutional rights and mass public surveillance takes a certain character.
Beyond the public surveillance, you find the same characteristics in most Western societies. So that isn't the issue. The fact that the MET would try this is an issue that should be investigated.
Last year when BLM protest popped off they didn't try the strong arm tactics as they knew they would have had riots all over the country, but the tried the strong arming here, when there actions probably increased the probability of virus spread instead of reduced.
I find it fascinating, and look forward to seeing it all unpacked.
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Not true.
How many of those countries have you lived in? Or spent extensive periods in?
Even Hitler remarked on the callousness of UK society.
This reminds me of the Galloway vs. Sky viral video.
The behaviour that I am talking about didn't start last year.
4, though 2 for a short period of time and they all exhibited similar traits. Those in power seek to hold onto it, at the expenses of others and suppress the truth where it isn't in their best interests.
If you have found a society that doesn't do this, feel free to let me know so I can examine it.
Frankly I dont give a shyt what hilter said about the callousness of the UK, the same way I don't give a shyt when the Brits deride the Germans by bringing up the war. Hilter wasn't exactly keen on building the model society himself.
All the major countries where I have seen news reported have shown abuses of authority.
It's not endemic to the UK, it's endemic to power and class in society.
Also I never said the behaviour started last year. I simply pointed out the measured approach, knowing the consequence of strong arming cound be riots vs the reaction this time.
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You use the term class oblivious to the fact that countries like Sweden, Germany Norway, Switzerland etc don't even have a UK style class system.
Quite aside from that it's not binary but rather a question of degree. Even a madman like Hitler could see it and that is why I mentioned him. The fact that the UK practices a more savage form of capitalism has been an accepted fact and a topic of conversation on the continent for the past few hundred years.
"Another major theme was the difference between British "plutocracy" and Nazi Germany. German newspapers and newsreels often pictured photos and footage of British unemployed and slums together with unfavourable commentary about the differences in living standards of the working class of Nazi Germany and those of the working class living under British "plutocracy".[22] Germany was represented as an ideal collectivist Volksgemeinschaft (People's Community) which put the economic “common interest before the individual interest”, which was contrasted with the supposed savage Manchestertum (Manchester capitalism) and individualist society of Britain where it was alleged that the rich had it all while the poor were left to starve.[23] So successful were the anti-capitalist attacks on Britain that reports to Social Democratic émigré Sopade from within Germany reported that the Nazis had made major gains with those German workers who had voted SPD and KPD during the Weimar Republic.[22] German propaganda asserted that the Second World War had been started by Britain to prevent Germany's social revolution from inspiring its own people to discontent.[24] The British declaration of war on Germany in 1939 was represented as an attempt to put an end to German Nazism, which maintained a generous modern welfare state that cared for the most poorest Germans lest British workers living under Manchesterchtum started to demand the same sort of welfare state for themselves.[25]"
Nazi propaganda and the United Kingdom
In fact all of continental Western Europe is more socialist that the UK.
State Socialism (German: Staatssozialismus) was a set of social programmes implemented in the German Empire that were initiated by Otto von Bismarck in 1883 as remedial measures to appease the working class and detract support for socialism and the Social Democratic Party of Germany following earlier attempts to achieve the same objective through Bismarck's Anti-Socialist Laws.[1][2] As a term, it was coined by Bismarck's liberal opposition to these social welfare policies, but it was later accepted by Bismarck.[3] This did not prevent the Social Democrats from becoming the biggest party in the Reichstag by 1912. According to historian Jonathan Steinberg, "[a]ll told, Bismarck's system was a massive success—except in one respect. His goal to keep the Social Democratic Party out of power utterly failed. The vote for the Social Democratic Party went up and by 1912 they were the biggest party in the Reichstag".[4]
State Socialism (Germany)
So for example prisons and rehabilitation:
"The UK has more prisoners serving life sentences than any other country in Europe, according to a new report by the Prison Reform Trust.
There are 8,554 inmates across the UK serving life sentences – more than France, Germany and Italy combined. The British total also exceeds the number of life-sentence prisoners held in jails in Russia and Turkey.
Prison reform campaigners called for a major re-think in sentencing policy, arguing that it was “out of kilter” with the rest of the world and had created an overcrowding crisis in Britain’s jails."
UK has highest number of life sentence prisoners in Europe, study finds
And that is just one factor.
If you haven't lived on the mainland you can be blind to the degree to which the underclass in the UK is held back.
It's just a continuation of feudal society whereas in mainland Europe the peasants overthrew their governments (some a number of times) which has resulted in societies which give a bit more to the common man.
The pretense of being nice is just that. Pretense.
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Covid vaccines for England's under-50s delayed due to shortage
Is it just me or is Boris not getting flamed in his own country for their Covid response?
Is it just me or is Boris not getting flamed in his own country for their Covid response?