UFC 254 On ESPN+ PPV At 2 pm ET [10/24] “Unrivaled, Undefeated, Undisputed” (Khabib/Justin Gaethje)

[Kenny West]

and yet they all still fight ...10 years later.

Rampage and Shogun were champs just a year or 2 prior

by your logic....Jon, since his last 3 fights were so close. is washed and some 23 yr old with hardly any experience should come in and dominate his ass soon. 

You proud of them old fighter bellator freakshow fights? I see where Coker was getting his demographics for them Tito Ortiz cards

MMA fighters age in dog years man, it can happen in the span of a fight. Especially when they north of 30. Look how bad that Weidman loss did Silva in. Look at Renan Barao etc. The Pride fighters in their prime was fighting whole tournaments n shyt


Besides you're reducing it down to just their records/prestige and ignoring tons of context. Injuries in camps did most of these dudes in before the age took hold.

whats funny is if Jon never arrived....someone on that list would have been champ. but washed. ok. 

If Jon wasnt champ another LHW would be

Brilliant observation

non TRT vitor almost subbed Jon and pulled his shoulder out his socket....but washed

Bader was considered the next best thing, so I guess if Jon never arrived, he'd fukk up all those guys on the list and would have reigned champ in the UFC until now huh. Bader was recently a double champ in Bellator and is currently the HW champ. Now that is a man that is fighting washed up fighters.

Jon beat DC twice, Glover and Gus. let me gets it was the roids. lol

He also beat up a prime Brandon Vera who is currently champ in One Fc and was their double champ just last year. this nikka Jon beat up 2 organizations double champs at 23. wtf.

You dont need to do all this dawg capping for Brandon Vera and Ryan Bader? Did I call Jon trash in some hidden post to deserve these theatrics?

 

[iseetrolledpeople]

Damn Gay Chee had the wrestling credentials and Khabib made him look like he ain't grapple a day in his life

Him and Mayweather were a class anyone facing them.

Only they can make Veteran PROs look like complete noobs.

Unrelated but Dana looked kinda

And he knows he can't convince Khabib to get back haha

 

[OVER]

That dude who be drinking spit out of shoes got go away heat with me dawg.

 

[Kenny West]

its crazy. I listed like 7 former champs Jon beat. 2 of whom were double champs in different organizations just last year. He did that shyt as a kid.

What former champ did Khabib beat except Conor. His biggest wins are Dustin and Justin. Didn't Justin get whopped by Eddie Alvarez? didn't Dustin get chicken legged by Conor? his greatest win is Conor.

we gonna compare that to a killer row that was the LHW division? or the primes like DC when he was going through legal issues? or even now. these young bucks are supposed to be the next Jon. Still washing them, if you that young and not finishing Jon at his age wtf. AND Jon is going to HW now calling out Francis and Stipe. but he aint goat. Khabib is. if you nikkas dont knock that shyt off

Nevermind I didnt realize stan rage was being activated

Khabib beat 4 champs in their primes (RDA Connor Justin and Poirier). Connor being a top 5 striker of this generation, Justin at an equally high skill level.

But all that record counting n shyt makes you sound like a causal. If you watch the fights you know why Khabib is so highly regarded. Dude's level of dominace with his craft is impeccable. When he grabs guys rounds end. Immediately.

Impeccable in all his strong points: takedowns, strength, stamina, grit. He doesnt really even catch dudes in submissions, dudes just gas out and give up their necks

Never seen him hurt. Never seen him bleed. Never seen him gassed. Never seen him lumped up. Looks like this after every fight

Nobody ever had him looking like this after one of his wins

Again I'm not taking anything from Jon, they're two all time greats. The level of dominace is just different. I dont even like Khabib like that off gp cause he's a grappler. was rooting for Connor vs him.

But you have to respect him as both a man and a master of his martial art. His grappling is so fukking impeccable that he makes a striker as skilled as Gaejthe too gunshy to counter Khabib's Ronda Rousey style punches. Nobody, not even GSP had wrestling that good.

Like who you want but his claim for GOAT is as valid as any.

 

[DallasTxRep]

Do y'all think Khabib is really done for good?

Yes. Especially considering he gave his mother his word.

It would take a HUGE HUGE fight to bring him out of retirement, and I don't see that guy on the UFC roster right now

 

[LeMAO]

Respect the dude that respect his mother much, retiring while on top

 

[DallasTxRep]

Gaethje, McGregor, Porier, Ferguson should be in a tournament to determine the next champion

 

[The axe murderer]

They were trying to get the title off him

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Respect to Khabib

I was riding for McGregor: I love his rags to riches, nothing to the top story and his attitude

Conor’s definitely a great fighter too

That said: Khabib really is on a different level. Not just compared to McGregor, but to ALL fighters

He EXCLUSIVELY delivers dominant performances

The really scary part: he was better this fight than I’ve ever seen him. The pressure, the jab, and the relentlessness - one scary dude, and many people sighed relief when he retired. His performance today was almost poetic.

I can’t imagine how tough it has been for him, all these months, with his father getting ill and passing away. Incredible professional and much respect for leaving this way, for his family.

29-0
Undefeated
Lost 1 round

Yes, Anderson Silva opened with 16-0 (vs Khabib’s 13-0) and Jon Jones is incredible, however there is no fighter in MMA I’ve ever seen who is simply this untouchable and who walked away from every fight clearly on another level than his opponent (and again I wanted to see McGregor beat him, but he is just too much, unstoppable fighter)

Respect

 

[Family Lives Matter]

Khabib was the last fighter I was interested in


UFC been trash besides him

 

[Inertia Creeps]

This "GOAT" conversation is useless. There isn't a definitive right answer

There's definitive WRONG answers tho... and Khabib is definitely one of them. Jones, Anderson, GSP, Mighty Mouse... all of those guys have literally over 3x the amount of title defense Khabib has. And for all those harping on and on about 29-0 like ~20 of those weren't regional Russian circuit jobbers with no Wikipedia pages... Jones's only "loss" was a DQ off a bogus technicality in a fight he was about to murder his opponent in. GSP avenged his only loss twice over in dominating fashion, and went up to a higher weight class and captured gold there too. The G in GOAT stands for GREATEST, not just good or great. Khabib is a great fighter, clear best in his division, props to him. But the undisputed best ALL-TIME, in the history of the sport?? Because he beat a guy Dustin and Eddie Alvarez already knocked unconscious????? Because he choked out the loudmouth that had already been emasculated and exposed by Nate Diaz and Joe Duffy????

Y'all complain endlessly about UFC hype trains and their promotional hyperbole and exaggerations on every thread of every card... but you still lap it all up and regurgitate it verbatim like clockwork. Where did this "Khabib is undisputed GOAT like Mayweather cause he got noooooo lawsesssssssssssss " narrative come from and when did it pop out of thin air?? Oh yeah, right after he beat the UFC's prized cash cow McGregor, as they were coincidentally in need of another face to promote... how interesting. Anderson Silva had defended his title nine times straight before Khabib was even good enough to get a UFC contract. And Khabib just now managed to reach one third of that streak of title defenses just now in 2020 after damn near 10 years in the promotion.

I don't want to sound like a hater on the day of the man's retirement, I'll always give respect and props to the man who emasculated McNuggets and put the final nail in the coffin of that insufferable era of this sport/promotion the way he did. I have no problem acknowledging him as the best lightweight ever like some of those cacs on Sherdog who are still on BJ Penn's dikk 10+ years and one drunken bar brawl L later . But this corny forced talk of him being undisputed GOAT of the sport is too disrespectful and gotta stop. It's just as stupid as the "Max Holloway is GOAT featherweight" bullshyt that was shamelessly forced down everyone's throat after ONE SINGLE TITLE DEFENSE . 2 fights later and he don't even have the belt anymore!!! Khabib is good enough that you don't gotta tear down, diminish, and completely rewrite the careers of the actual GOAT contenders Man in the High Castle revisionist history style to try and prop him up; his accomplishments and career speak for themselves. And it's okay if that resume is "just" lightweight GOAT and not anywhere close to "Undisputed all-time GOAT". It's still

 

[LastManStanding]

Khabib and DC before the fight today

 

[The axe murderer]

Shiiiiiiit thinking about it wrestling probably the most grueling training style in the ufc. That alone will retire most

 

[Tommy Knocks]

Nevermind I didnt realize stan rage was being activated

Khabib beat 4 champs in their primes (RDA Connor Justin and Poirier). Connor being a top 5 striker of this generation, Justin at an equally high skill level.

But all that record counting n shyt makes you sound like a causal. If you watch the fights you know why Khabib is so highly regarded. Dude's level of dominace with his craft is impeccable. When he grabs guys rounds end. Immediately.

Impeccable in all his strong points: takedowns, strength, stamina, grit. He doesnt really even catch dudes in submissions, dudes just gas out and give up their necks

Never seen him hurt. Never seen him bleed. Never seen him gassed. Never seen him lumped up. Looks like this after every fight

Nobody ever had him looking like this after one of his wins

Again I'm not taking anything from Jon, they're two all time greats. The level of dominace is just different. I dont even like Khabib like that off gp cause he's a grappler. was rooting for Connor vs him.

But you have to respect him as both a man and a master of his martial art. His grappling is so fukking impeccable that he makes a striker as skilled as Gaejthe too gunshy to counter Khabib's Ronda Rousey style punches. Nobody, not even GSP had wrestling that good.

Like who you want but his claim for GOAT is as valid as any.

wtf does any of this mean? Jon has literally fought 3 generations of fighters. I even said, if you dont want to talk about the pride guys when he was a pup, we can still talk about the guys during the Gus/DC/Glover/OSP era. and now the new dogs. The argument here isnt that Khabib isnt great, I would say he's the greatest LW of all time GLWOAT. But we are talking about GOAT. as in the number one fighter OF ALL TIME. and that is Jon. One can argue Fedor, but the level of competition and the multiple generations AND the fact that he's still going at 33 (he can go another 7 years like this wtf) and moving up. If he wins the HW title. aw man. Its over.

Funny thing about that Gus pic....he'd only trained 3 weeks and drank vodka and snorted coke the weekend before, he admitted the shyt on the Rogan's podcast.
See second fight for a serious training camp Jones.

I mean damn he was running through people like that drinking himself silly the weekend before fights. He did the shyt often too. He was young and crazy. and STILL ran through the killer's row.

 

[MikelArteta]

Do y'all think Khabib is really done for good?

Doesn't seem like the type to go back on his word